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got to keep Hutchy in burgers

That interview this morning was almost unlistenable. The amount of ads Played in each break was outrageous!! In the old days there was a limit of 6 advertisements per break, that law obviously doesn’t exist anymore

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I don't listen to SEN live unless i's in the car and can change the station when the ads start. I jump on the SEN website later and listen to the segments i want to watch. No ads that way

I'm sure they have reasons, but that doesn't mean that they'll be proven correct. Our list management has been baffling over the past 2 years. Starting with acquiring Grundy and ending with re-signing Schache. If anything, I think we're lacking in young midfield talent.

Has been delisted and will be re-rookied for the 2024 season. https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1459119/list-update-melksham

The Age: To become great, Melbourne need to recognise the less-than-great.

Not going to National Tiles today?

This is as good an excuse as any to start this, the final home and away match thread for AFLW8. I'm expecting the girls to carve 'em up. And, while this again demonstrates that defence and victory go hand in hand, I'm also expecting our stellar forwards to put a 'Yes!' in Casey Sherriff's body language, as opposed to her 'Oh, no!' herein 😁 AFLW Halloween | Pumpkin Carving Challenge Over to you, now, @Meggs, or one of your colleagues, for the real pre-game assessment. (p.s. Like the tops, which they also trained in. Some kind of 'Back To' celebration?)

Good news. Now we have 34 senior listed players and on this year's base of 36 that gives us two senior list spots.

We’d have to be looking at him as a mid/frwd option - no way Lexer and May would welcome a Leake in the backline

I see our priorities as this: Priority 1: Trade for Harley Reid if a deal can be done. Priority 2: Assess trading up for pick 2 or 3 for Duursma or perhaps McKercher. Those 2 seem to have separated themselves as the standouts from the rest of the bunch and Duursma especially makes sense to go hard for. I can't see us going super hard for anyone else. Priority 3: Take one of Watson, Sanders, Curtin, Leake or perhaps Caddy, O'Sullivan. If the top 3 goes to plan then obviously at least 2 of the first bunch are available plus a couple of tall options. Priority 4: Assess the cost of moving pick 11 up to 8 in order to get our choice of the talls. If it's not possible then we know there's other tall options who could slide as well as Wilson and Windsor in the range. Plus I remain intrigued by big Will Green as an alternative option.

I think we have overdone the kick ins to Max down the left side. I am pretty shrewd and I reckon the comp is onto us. Just a hunch

This guy has Hird, Fyfe, Fritta, Lever, Matthews, Lockett, Carey, Flower, Hawkins (cats and dogs version) vibes to him. Will be better than Whitten!

Harris in for Gall is the obvious change, but I wonder if Colvin and A Mackin come in or if they stick with Wilson and Campbell/Fitzsimon. Could really do with Gay fit for finals too.

He with the Feathered Cap has met his demise: fremantle-dockers-appoint-new-football-boss-joe-brierty-as-peter-bell-moves-into-different-role It is the classic 'sideways' shuffle to avoid sacking or demoting someone. He has made some monumental list blunders since taking over and cost Freo dearly. Not sure about the wisdom of appointing a long term staff member into the Footy Manager role without other staff changes. It will take them years to dig themselves out of the hole Bell created. What a good year for List Manager changes: both Dodoro and Bell gone!!

Does anyone remember painting goal posts on their dad's shed?

I have an inexplicable desire to purchase some steel and mesh

Older readers will remember Essendon ruckman and later media commentator, Geoff Leek. Billy Baxter on The Coodabeen Champions said that he saw Geoff Leek and Doug Wade off the ground.

And I think it is only fitting that a statue of the creator of the thread, be erected at the MCG and also another at the new home base, which will thereby encapsulate his two sporting loves.

DEE fence is bang on, the silence is deafening. MFC wins the trophy and 1mil for being the most consistent club across AFL and AFLW and radio silence from AFL.com. Instead an article about how important top ten picks are (duh!). MFC has been the benchmark across all three competitions AFL, AFLW, VFL for three years now. We’ve won 3 premierships (and counting with AFLW23 still to play) 4 GFs, finished in the top 4 8 times, made 9 final series and easily been the best club over this period. But what are they reporting on? A smear campaign against our coach and his family from 2020-21. What are our real issues?Joel Smith is an [censored] who did coke in season. Clayton Oliver is immature and has some issues, Stephen May is confident and has a big mouth, leading to one stupid fight with his teammates and a statement about CFC that annoyed them (despite being true!). That’s it. Compare that to CFC: Magpies deny players involvement in elicit video (off-season 2023): https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/magpies-deny-players-involved-in-explicit-viral-video-and-warn-fans-of-criminal-offence/news-story/1527df5feed42453ba45d130f819cb56 Ginnivan at the races pre GF: https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/30/magpies-defend-ginnivan-over-trip-to-the-races-before-grand-final-everyone-just-relax-and-chill/amp/ Jack Crisps alleged sexting exchange with an underage girl 2023: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-crisps-next-move-revealed-after-afl-completes-investigation-into-inappropriate-video-c-10314050.amp Jack Ginnivan allegedly does ketamine with players preaseason 2023: https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101994502 Jordan Degoey’s litany of mysognistic misdemeanours: https://amp.9news.com.au/article/384aa7b0-45be-4488-8f9c-d9c1f2e1191f Quaynor and Ginnivan rate women’s appearance in online video: https://www.foxsports.com.au/web-stories/free/fox-sports/jack-ginnivan-and-isaac-quaynor-apologise-for-tiktok-video Steele Sidebottom goes out drunk during COVID restrictions: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8477947/amp/AFL-star-Steele-Sidebottom-drunk-does-not-remember-breaking-COVID-19-rules.html The “do better report”: https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/01/collingwood-afl-clubs-culture-of-structural-racism-condemned-in-scathing-report Wow what an incredible “culture” led to this years flag, it’s almost like winning premierships is possible even with a team of misbehaving DH’s as long as they are good at football. But no, it’s probably Darcy Moore’s ability to deliver a year 10 level debate speech and Craig MacRae and the Daicos’s being nice guys, I’m sure that’s an impeccable “culcha”. It’s nice to confirm the bias against us in the AFL media, which was largely under the surface until now. They hate us and will never praise us as a “big club” (within 10k and 16k of Hawthorn and Essendon with a higher average home attendance but never acknowledge that). Time for us to start calling them out often and loudly, or stop listening to and watching their rubbish as Robbo, Warner at the Hun are out for us as are Damo, Cornes and others at AFL.com. Stuff em.

Didnt we also want Georgides and Holmes.

Truly BA, is the air conditioning working at your place?

Thanks for kicking us off in such spooky style! Retro jumpers! https://www.melbournefc.com.au/albums/1459316/aflw-training-gallery-retro-jumpers?modal=true&type=gallery&playlistId=1459316&playlistSize=10 "Harris set for return" https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1459233/rd10-injury-report-harris-set-for-return

Updates: Melksham becoming an A Rookie Turner changed to a 2 year contract on advice from @Dannyz Contract terms updated for Billings, McAdam and Fullarton thanks to info from @DeeTeez This means there are no more uncontracted players. Today is the closing date for F/S nominations and have yet to see anything on Brown so not sure we will be taking him on a F/S basis. That doesn't mean we wouldn't draft him, just that we are not committed to do so. Based on recent mix of 36 senior players and 6 A rookies we now have two senior list spots and two A rookie spots

Yes, but it also allows flexibility if we want to utilise ND42 or we Brown gets nominated where we can’t rookie him.

187cm is still a great size for a midfielder if that where Jason Taylor sees him playing eventually.

Could say the same of me with some of the rubbish I post!

Identifibre is seared into my brain. I'll certainty know where to go if i need to talk to the professionals regarding asbestos.

i wouldn't know ... never been there the idea of a 24/7/365 talkback radio show mainly devoted to afl and hutchenomics is enough to stay clear

First time?

I really would be shocked if we even contemplated taking Collard with one of our first two picks

We need be certain it is a banana od !

My understanding is that it was on race in general, given Heretia Lumumba is not indigenous, but did lodge a complaint about racism.

If nothing else, he'd restock our 'James' cupboard.

They really need to do a lot Better don’t they?

Best club in the AFL, but we have no culture.

More good news for the club. Any journos perusing Demonland for a good news story, please note, winning the McClelland trophy for best men's and women's football program can be added to an impressive list of positives from the last 3 years, a period where we: have won three flags are even money favorite to win our fourth flag in a few weeks finished top 4 in the men's and women comp every season made finals in every VFL season (In spite of this success) go into the upcoming draft with a brilliant draft hand for any team, let alone a top 4 team have a united board a CEO (who had his critics when he came to the dees) doing a top job have stabilized financially thankfully no longer have to rely on income from pokies got to 70k plus members (an all time record) continued to strengthen the women's program have been able to keep the women's team together (very much unlike other top teams) are on the way to creating the best, most successful program in AFLW history did a thorough review of our 2022 season and made changes as a result resigned our men's and women's coach made a series of long term, contract extensions to key players resigned Koz, a terrific message that our club is considered culturally safe by Aboriginal players (reinforced by McAdam nominating the dees) been leaders in the Aboriginal cultural space - for example the Indigenous jumpers and Narrm initiative that other clubs are now getting on board with (eg renaming their team for Indigenous round) not unrelated to the above two points, bedded down our Innovate Reconciliation Action Plan managed the departure of Jackson in a way that has given us a great draft hand managed the transition of Burgess to Griffith super well managed the situation with Jonsey not getting a game in the GF super well resigned Melk when we we could have easily said see ya have done a great job connecting with past players and bringing them back into the fold had an assistant coach win one of the most coveted jobs in footy - the senior coach of the tigers Yes, like every other club we have had our share of isolated incidents but by any measure that is a super impressive list of achievements, albeit missing one key thing - a home base. We are in better shape now then at any other point in the 45 plus years i have ardently followed the mighty dees. Go redlegs.