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Maybe we should invite them around for a spliff

This phrase can be used in almost any situation.

Ok here goes I was rung by a person from the club, not the President or Gary Pert. However they were of some importance and I believe they were well informed and honest. Basically what I have thought for some time appears to be correct and the information provided by Dante is correct. WE are now in a long term situation meaning nothing is going to happen fast. We have little power and are at the mercy of the Government, AFL and MCC. The club is bound to a secrecy agreement that they will not disclose details of discussions. The reason other clubs are getting money is because they have a site to spend it on. We do not. They have looked at approx 30 venues within the middle ground of Metro Melbourne and while they would prefer to be close to the G they will look at any venue that the Government brings forward. He was adamant that the Olympic park Magpies episode would not happen again. Currently we are using Goschs and Olympic park facilities and Casey. He believes that between the two we have facilities as good as most of our competitors. The club is committed to both venues for Girls , boys and VFL teams. also said they need both as one venue is not enough for the three operations. He also said that contrary to popular beliefs the players do not see travelling to Casey as a big problem in fact they enjoy being able to train in privacy. While admitting that it would be good to have one home for the whole club he did no believe the current situation was placing us at a disadvantage to other clubs. Now some of the above you can say well he would say that wouldn't he. My view is we are some time away from a central home for Players and fans but currently we are not at a disadvantage.I firmly believe it is not for want of trying, there is just currently no spot.

It would take a joint effort to get the deal rolling but that may be a pipedream.

Sorry Loges but the "current rules" don't state that. The rules were modified (again!!) to allow players to hold their ground in a marking contest by placing the hands on the back of an opposition player. Essentially going back to the original rule where a "push" is what is penalised. If you look up the definition of "push" in a dictionary it says "to propel forward". I've seen Hawkins propel forward defenders by several metres and not be penalised. So perhaps it's the Umpires who are cheats or they are just incompetent, probably the latter. The way commentators, often former greats of the game, fawn over Hawkins with comments like; "a great show of strength in that contest" is sickening. I've also seen Hawkins take strong marks by holding his ground but he does get away with a lot of two handed shoves in the back.

Melbourne were not a dog ordinary side. They finished 2nd on the ladder after beating the Lions on their turf. We had a damn tough fixture whilst Geelong 'rested up' in the second half of the season with a dream draw. They even got 15 days in the mid season bye. We got f##k all. Melbourne players were banged up after a tough season. Goodwin should have experimented more when we were 10-0 . Should of tossed some hungry Casey players into the forward line and see how it went. We had nothing to lose.

Curse you to hell Selwood.

I'm convinced that speed is more a product of ball movement, not leg speed. Teams that have a higher handball:kick ratio will be slower because the ball moves more slowly up the ground.

I'd wager I'm younger than you OD, and I genuinely thought I'd never see a flag in my lifetime, don't give up hope mate, and try not to let it dampen your enjoyment of our (hopeful) future success. Thanks for passing on the info and Merry Christmas!

Thanks OD for this information and your efforts in chasing the Club on this. But on reflection of what you’ve been told, I think the only new info here is that we’ve signed some non disclosure agreement with the Govt - although even this has been implied previously by the Pres. The fact that we have looked at 30 inner Melbourne sites is old news - Bartlett and Pert told us this some years ago now, as stage one of the Master Plan study was to identify and rate numerous (30 was mentioned from memory) possible sites - the outcome being that the MCG precinct was the preferred location. Everything else stated is just political fluff in my view - and certainly not new. If I recall correctly, one of the key pillars of our “grand plan” for the club was to have started construction of our new home facility by 2022 (23?). As this has obviously changed, surely it is negligent of the Club to not have informed the members that the goal posts have been shifted, particularly given how important a “pillar” this is for our members. A simple statement that does not contravene the ND agreement would have been all that was required. To not have done this is really poor management in my view. For what it’s worth, the only reason I can think of for the “long term nature” of this process is that our home will be part of the redevelopment of the Shane Warne stand, which is unlikely to start till late ‘27. And until plans and costs are completed and are approved by the Govt, and funding obtained, we will not get any updates unfortunately.

You may be right, but I think to be fair to Jordon we should also consider the possibility he was playing to instructions. Often when he had the ball it was because he had made space on his wing so the ball could be safely delivered to him. Once he had it, though, there was often no-one for him to kick it too as the players in front of him were often still on the "Langdon" side of the ground. It's possible he was told to wait for the players in front of him to present opportunities rather than just bombing it forward in hope. PS: This is the sort of analysis which is only possible by being at the ground and watching the game live. TV coverage doesn't show this because it's not possible to show simultaneously the ball in play and also what's happening further up the ground.

If AFL was played by billion globally you would see the same stuff. Are you aware of what life is like in Argentina? the economic and social issues? Football is more than a sport, it represents hope and something to escape their lives. Millions attended and did not riot, but of course the story is the ones who did. Poverty and large crowds can lead to this. There is nothing intrinsic in football that makes people riot, the issue is much bigger than that A remarkable turn out, shows how much it means to them.

I didn't mean the club assets....it is up to you, me and all of our 60K members, because successive Boards over a 35 year period have done nothing to create a home for us. Imagine how much we would have if we each had contributed just $10 or $20 per year toward a building fund? It isn't hard to organise. But it requires someone to do just that. It took 5 years before we caught up to Essendon, who enabled the means to make tax-deductible donations through the ASF. It just requires foresight. Hawthorn are doing it to build their Dingley facility, even though it is not built yet, because they know you cannot depend upon government largesse alone.

Well it's a-reefer-derci to that idea, then. It's a shame we traded Weed in retrospect.

“Clarry Undergoes Surgery on Thumb” “Repaired thumb will be good to reattach in two days.”

i don't think od said we need the gov to bring suggested locations to us.

Not directly related to the Fixture but don't want to start a new thread. Barrett is starting early with his negative 'headlines' of the MFC. Yesterday his podcast was captioned: How 'hubris' got to Dees with a picture of the players after the round 23 loss to Brisb. Today his podcast is captioned: The off-field drama that rocked the 2022 season with a picture of May and Melksham. I'll confess that I haven't listened to either. Not worth the effort as he just whines and whinges.

Melbourne superstar Clayton Oliver has undergone surgery on his thumb to fix a niggling problem in his right hand. The Demons on Wednesday confirmed Oliver, 25, had gone under the knife to get on top of a minor issue which had been bothering him in recent weeks. The injury is expected to fully heal over the next few weeks, allowing Oliver to return to full training when his teammates come back from their Christmas break next month.

The Gawn-Grundy combo works like a charm It’s the pairing that has everyone wondering just how it’s going to actually work, but as Simon Goodwin told AFL 360 earlier this year, “We wouldn’t have had these discussions if we didn’t think it would work.” Add to Goodwin’s comments the fact Max Gawn played a big part in selling Brodie Grundy on the move to the Dees and there is clearly immense buy-in and an idea as to how this dynamic will function. If it works, it’ll work big, with Melbourne’s spluttering forward mix potentially becoming supercharged as a result. It was a down year for Melbourne but there are plenty of reasons for optimism in 2023 and we’re tipping ‘Gawndy’, ‘Grawn’ or whatever you want to call it will be one of them. Pickett becomes the competition’s prized signature He became a Demons’ premiership player at just 20 years of age and has the composure to win games off his boot. And at just 22 years of age, Kysaiah Pickett will come out of contract with around 80 AFL games under his belt – making him the perfect candidate for a big trade deal. Given Melbourne already lost Pickett’s fellow 2019 draftee Luke Jackson, they’ll be keen to hang on to their livewire forward. But can they afford it? With ample cap space already committed to the likes of Clayton Oliver and Christian Petracca, Pickett may have to sacrifice a big payday to stay at Melbourne. Will the lure of family see him move interstate? Rival clubs reportedly showed interest in Pickett in 2022. Then there’s other Victorian clubs who surely would circle the proven match-winner. Pickett’s signature will be the one to watch in 2023. Harry Petty proves himself … as a forward The Demons struggled to find avenues to goal in 2022. It took until the final quarter of their semi-final loss to Brisbane for Melbourne to uncover a possible solution: Harrison Petty. The key-position player showed he has the ability and composure to be the big target they need to support the likes of Ben Brown and Bailey Fritsch. Tom McDonald is also due back after struggling with an ankle injury and taking no part after Round 10, giving coach Simon Goodwin plenty of tall options in attack. The Demons already have a strong backline with the experience of Steven May and Jake Lever, so can they shift Petty into a role forward in 2023? It’s worth a look. ... and just for a little bit of schadenfreude The Luke Jackson trade doesn’t solve Freo’s forward line woes … but a fit Fyfe does It’s no secret Fremantle haven’t found that big game forward who can turn a game off his boot since Matthew Pavlich retired. And while the Dockers went all-in to secure Demons premiership young gun Luke Jackson, he won’t be the player to fill that void in 2023. Fremantle footy boss Peter Bell says Jackson will play “a large proportion forward” as Sean Darcy takes the lead role in the ruck. But without Rory Lobb, and Matt Taberner’s run of soft tissue woes, the Dockers need someone to step up and kick bags if they are to progress past the semi finals. Enter Nat Fyfe — the real football unicorn, not Jackson. He’s the only two-time Brownlow Medallist currently in the AFL and a player who can turn a match in a matter of minutes. And now, he’s no longer needed to do that in the midfield. Fremantle have recruited a mighty midfield with the likes of Andrew Brayshaw, Caleb Serong and Will Brodie. Throw Jackson into that midfield mix and it will allow Fyfe to play predominantly forward. If the superstar can solve his accuracy yips – look out 2023 as Fyfe has some of the best hands in the AFL.

i double raise and there's a whole team of roosters in sydney and red'n'blue to boot......but no good looking ones alas

You mean, the scot-free, faking bag of detritus who heads the AFL Free Kick tally?

And it gives us exposure in one of Melbourne’s busiest intersections. It actually seems like a perfect fit. Clearly money has dried up on that apartment thing. No one will want to live there anyway. It’s proximity to the road is horrendous.. It seriously should be under consideration.

Ha! Was literally thinking about this the other day when driving past! Yeah there's the vacant corner spot and that block of apartments/offices has never been completed and has been sitting there doing nothing for a couple of years. I wonder if that could house our admin, shop, pool(s), meeting rooms etc and then maybe that corner over near the bridge we were looking at could house the gym/changerooms so players can walk straight out pretty much onto Gosch's? Not exactly "all in one" but pretty good and over time we may even be able to obtain more spots in that area and really make it ours.

Currently, the corner of Punt Rd and Swan St has a massive vacant block sitting there. It used to be a car rental place. It was cleared and one apartment/hotel was put up. It looks half completed and abandoned. The rest of that block is completely vacant. If we are serious, we could take that block and put all the club offices and a training facility in there. Players simply walk across the road to Goash’s

I may have worded that incorrectly. The club will look at any site. Have investigated 30+.

The stager who unintentionally intentionally kicked him in the hand.

That’s actually a huge drop in the ACL rupture rate. We can only hope it’s not a ‘one swallow doesn’t make a summer’ situation. If the downward trend continues, it suggests that girls who grow up with the game are both more physically attuned to the rotational-pivoting demands, and that specific conditioning programmes are working. It might also suggest the ‘ACL vulnerable’ girls are being weeded out before reaching senior footy. Whichever way, fingers crossed it continues.

And that’s the hair all his maiden brownlow memorabilia will show too. Do you hold out and wait to buy the stuff for his second Charlie instead? (As an aside, I love his hair. He deserves to be identifiable. If you were showing the game to anyone just getting into afl, being able to pick clarry out helps)

Thanks for sharing od. There is some new info re the venues we have/would consider and its good to get a bit more clarification on the reasons nothing has happened. Just don't know why the club hasn't shared that publicly as here we are thinking the Board is wedded to the G precinct and relative inactive. As and aside, does anyone know if The Greens hold the balance of power in the Upper House? That might make it tricky to get a new venue up and running anywhere in Melbourne let alone inner Melbourne.

This is true, but I don't usually stalk a poster and go on a spree, I'm more free flowing...

Barrett's key points as follows: 1. We were a dog ordinary footy side after starting 10-0. (How can one argue with this as we went 6-8 after round 10) 2. The May/Melksham affair proved to be a terrible distraction 3. We wouldn't change anything up as the season progressed. Come finals time we actually couldn't as injuries and fatigue set in. Premiers need to add another point of difference if they want to stay ahead of the pack. It was a very basic analysis but one you can't really disagree with. His co-host Nat Edwards thought that the Dees would go undefeated after round 10. If that was the case, the state of the competition would be pretty dire as we weren't playing particularly well in the first 10 rounds and didn't beat a top 6 contender in that period.

For the most part, I think Tomahawk is an amazing player and he deserves to be reconsised as such, but he's also a dirty cheat. Happens too often and the fact the AFL makes allowances for him that they don't for other players is a disgrace. His clumsy wirly bird arms everywhere effort that broke Steve May's face wouldn't have been allowed for any other player. FFS, tiny Chandler fell forward into a guys back accidently and got rubbed out for matches. Blatently pushing guys in the back etc and winning games off the back of it is cheating. That the AFL are weak as and consistently let him get away with it isn't the point. Stop making excuses for him.

That will end up in smoke

That's a bad call on Riv ( Pig mk11) as he would consider himself as just about the best looking Rooster on the list at Demonland!!

with so many underground tunnels been built in melbourne and copious boring equipment why not an underground stadium and training complex? could be sited almost anywhere under the cbd https://en.visit-innlandet.no/what-to-do/gjovik-olympic-cavern-hall-p637833 https://www.tourism-review.com/the-first-ever-underground-football-stadium-news1276

"The new ground will surfaced with cannabis plants. The boundary ropes, gazebos, and gear bags made of hemp. Free hashish provided to all affiliated teams, minorites and the underprivileged. Also a new electric scooter to every MP who votes for this." You've just gotta think outside the square. (MLC, I know)

You are now seeing girls drafted that have played juniors for a number of years, been in u18 programs, they are conditoned to play football at this level. They have been doing knee programs like netball and basketball to strenghten muscle to support the knee. The game itself isn't like it was for the first few years, it was like the players went extra hard to prove they can play the game, now we are seeing more skillful players and very Athletic.

norf i think

When I saw the click bait article in the herald sun I almost fainted! thank Christ it’s only a minor surgery

Joel’s last gift to the MFC

Petracca and Oliver are two of the best burst players from stoppages and are rarely caught once ahead of someone. Leg speed is over rated and rarely the actual game breaker, ball speed was our issue last year. Unfortunately with Salem and Tmac injured for majority of the year it took away alot of our ability to move quickly. Salem back, and possibly Bowie, plus fwd options means we can move the ball faster, with more precision and also get ANB, Spargo and Kossie more involved who are our speedier players.

the greens and the 2 marijuana members effectively will hold the balance of power in upper house

Pretty hard to eat a roll without teeth.

I'm led to believe that Clarry made the mistake of reading Demonland and has a repetitive strain injury as a result of all the face palms he has performed in reaction to the comments.

ru serious? you are the demonland record holder for facepalming

did you see the Tigers on Swan street? and that was just 20-30 thousand fans. can you imagine 4 million? there'll always be issues with a crowd that size

For what exactly? I asked him where the location would be and he didn't answer, just went on a facepalm binge. In fact, if you read my posts, I said we weren't getting money because we didn't have a location - Is that incorrect?

still thinking, od?

If there was quadrupple vomit Emoji, I'd wack that in on the strength of that info. Its a real disgrace, bloody Feral falseteeths of humanity 3 times, Carltank 6 us on top of course🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😱🥶🤬💩👺😡