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No Elliot, No problem.

*His hopeless, glad we didn’t get him.

Charlie Spargo will be 10 x the player Jamie Elliot is, that is unless Elliot accepts our offer.

One door closes and another one opens. If Elliott chooses Brisbane or stays at Collingwood, it means that we can use the salary cap room that would otherwise have been available for him to chase other fish. I’m not fussed - it’s the nature of this time of year.

He’s crap anyway

Lot of negative Nellies on DL.

He has a friend who lives near Goschs paddock.

We were gonna take him on a tour of our facilities then we remembered we don’t have any.

Actually, if you go back and look at the posts you'll realise many of us were calling it as we saw it. "interrupted pre-seasons". You were the one refuting that their preparation was interrupted and now that coaches have come out to confirm what we thought, you're unhappy.

Jamie Elliott > Elliott > Elliot Goblet > Goblet > Wine glass > Glass > Sand > Beach > Beach shorts > Skwosh > Jack Watts > Port Adelaide. Far out he’s off to Port.

Just because some don’t believe that Frosty is the second coming of Bruce “the flying doormat” Doull, doesn’t make us “Frost haters” as some hysterically suggest.

I suspect this has as much veracity as the old story about the cannibal who got home from the pub so late for tea that his missus gave him the cold shoulder.

Thanks for the appraisal, Mr poster-who-joined-all-the-way-back-in-March-this-year. The forum is actually made up of many types, but a lot of the quality, nuanced analysis has disappeared this year amid the mountain of identical threads that are nothing but variations of "I'm sick of watching us lose / not win / other teams win etc etc" It's a shame because there are some excellent posters whose commentary is well worth reading, but some of them have run for the hills and others are posting a lot less frequently.

Leaving aside the discussion about who is better player, Omac or frost, do people not understand that one has a contract in 2020 and one doesn't. So even if the club decided it wanted to keep Frost ahead of Omac, Omac woud have to want to leave. Given he is coming off a poor season as if now would be the ideal time to test the market and negotiate a contract at another AFL club when has a contract he is happy with for 2020 at the dees. Frost IS OUT OF CONTRACT.

We didn't want him anyway, a poor mans Charlie Spargo.

Thanks Mel, was just about to point it out.

Head is down, he doesn't want to be there

You know you’ve had a bad season when people want Casboult.

What else could you reasonably expect in the off-season before trading has even started?

It's in the book picket!

In a salary cap league he'd be a back up tall defender at a few clubs...

Cheap speed AND he delivers?? Get me his number

I don’t understand the dislike for Mahoney. He worked the loophole which landed us Clarrie. For that I am eternally grateful

Speed of ball use > speed of foot You seem to have an obsession with foot speed. Ash is fast, but like Frost has a tendency to blindly bomb away or miskick because of how quickly he is travelling. Look at Hawthorn and Richmond's lists as templates during flag years. Richmond play an incredibly intense and quick surge game that requires an extremely high level of execution of disposal. If they don't have that, it breaks down. Hawthorn drafted and traded for elite ball users and demolished opposition sides because they could completely dictate the speed of games. We were one of the poorest skilled sides and are one of the poorest skilled sides. It is ball use and footy IQ that we are in desperate need of. It runs from ball use coming from defence through to first disposal out of a contest in the middle, through to delivery inside 50. We look slow because we are slow in the way we use the ball and make decisions.

So that you have a better understanding of what an "interrupted pre-season" looks like @Satyriconhome : “The midfield basically couldn’t do any competitive work. Even 10 years ago, you could condition AFL players with 100s and 50s and 200s (sprints). “Now the game is ballistic and change of direction and it’s highly fatiguing. “We weren’t equipped for it. We couldn’t do the work that those midfielders needed and the physical contact, they couldn’t do that. Then a tough draw and then a heap more injuries.”

Maybe a nice Demonland group activity could be to go down to Goschs Paddock this summer and build a dunny together.

What is wrong with Goschs paddock? Surely he would love the majestic view of punt road traffic, while training in front of 3 people and Saty.

Don’t give up, he doesn’t trust Queensland water, the bottle of water he is carrying is from Victoria.

Hyperbole bs

1st & 2nd all class. Sunlight is a champ and the other champ in Santa Ana Lane will be better for the run. Going to be one hell of an Everest. Need a non-bog track though. Maybe they could transfer the race to Flemington! Good weather here.

We were all looking too much into it, it was staring us in the face all along.

Without dominant key forwards, we need to have KPF's who are able to bring the ball to ground pretty much all the time to allow our smaller player's (hopefully the likes of Fritsch, Trac, Lockhart, Harmes, (Weightman if drafted) to crumb the pack. The only problem is that we have almost all players' compete for the ball in the air while not enough stay down, allowing opposition numbers to waltz the ball out of the back-line. Goody needs to drill this into the forward groups heads to have one compete in the air and the rest ready to mop up any balls that hit the deck.

Not poor per se, but many of the good quality players' are already aligned to clubs via either F/S, NGA, or academies, leaving what is left for 'live' picks to have the quality severely diminished. It's gonna occur more frequently with the number of academies that the AFL has now instituted, almost like how their was regional zoning prior to the introduction of the draft all those years ago. We need to abolish all academies, IMV, to return the draft to its original purpose acting as a method of aiding the evenness of the competition.

Prefer to keep him but not the end of the world he’s leaving. We need to be firm and get a second round pick in return for him though. All talk in media has us getting a third round pick in return, which will be in the 50s. A pick in the 50s for a proven durable AFL level player with 4-5 more years in him is a big loss IMO.

Exactly. Tiges did it in 2017 without two ‘key forwards’, Lynch this year was just the cherry on top.

I shudder to think what would be being said about him on this forum if he had the season he just had at the Ds.

I'm going to lock this thread for the time being. No need to spread a rumour with nothing to back it up. I've PMed the OP for more information. At the very least I want to confirm that this doesn't just come from a friend of a friend of a friend. If this was a first time poster and not a long time poster then they would be immediately banned. I'll reopen this thread if more information comes to light. Unless this is a brand new injury (ie: last week) I can't believe this wouldn't have been acted upon before he went on vacation. Methinks the OP has been hoodwinked. A reminder to all to not post rumours especially if you can't verify the credibility of a source.

I have two concerns about him, number 1 is his hammies. Number 2 is he is not a traditional small forward, he plays more like a key forward in a small forwards body ie lead up and mark. We need a legit crumber which I'm not sure Elliott is although he is good at applying pressure and retaining the ball inside 50. Of course I still want him if he is gettable as he is a very good player. But he may not solve our small forward needs.

Yeah. About bloody time we started kicking some goals during these interviews.

Two days before the BnF he also won the longest kick competition. If he has had surgery, it must be due to injuring the shoulder after the kicking comp and BnF. I smell a BS rumour though.

He only had one good foot.

He's a star. Anyone who says differently knows little about the game. I still have nightmares about Elliot's game against us in the last round of 2017.

Darren Jarman

We tried to trade pick 2 for Myers and Colyer but Essendon wanted more. We’ve had some train wreck drafting and trading but that would’ve been the holy grail of epic fails.

If Charlie Spargo makes it I will gladly do a Nudie run carrying Uncle Bitters on my back. Not up to it and Never will be!!

If we could recruit Sam Murray, he'd probably know how to get his hands on some.

Isn’t it when you sit upright in your chair and have the desk at the correct height?

I disagree completely. Several years of linear improvement and a prelim with one terrible year seems like a pretty good result if you ask me. You may as well sack everyone in the club if you want to apply that logic.