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We'll have to lift a notch to make the finals now.

Couldn't be bothered

I absolutely HATE a post like this. You know why? How long are we going to simply blame the coach. At the end of his tenure the players let Daniher down. They let Bailey down. Neeld may be the exception to the rule, but Roos losing them? Give me a break. These players too often pick and choose when they are going to show up and when they don't it's the coaches fault. Ridiculous. Roos is one of the greatest coaches of the modern era and one who every player he has coached, respected. The players loved playing for him. Roos isn't the problem, it's the personnel, and if you can't see that... then nobody can help you.

It's very, very bad BUT instead of wallowing in complete anger, sadness and hyperbole, let's not forget three very important points: 1 - Inc. Salem we had NINE players out of the side today. That is going to hurt any side badly. This point cannot be pushed aside. 2 - We have actually performed well in 3 of our 7 games this year. Don't let that be stricken from the record. 3 - Over the last 3 weeks, we have averaged 78 games experience per player vs our opponents averaging 121. That's 946 total games of extra experience our opponents have. It is no coincidence that these are the top 3 sides (or just about). If you did this analysis for the whole comp you would find a very close reflection of the ladder vs weekly-22-average-games. This is how it works. The miserable part about it is that we cannot as a club get the point where we are fielding sides with 120 games experience per player, because we keep delisting dead wood after a few years of non-performance and replacing them with kids. Grimes and Watts are the latest. Then those new kids end up being the dead wood themselves. Of course we are all hoping that this regime will produce a group of players that will actually get the 120 mark and be consistent contributors but at present there is little evidence of it.

Disgusting. Embarrassing. Pathetic. Gut wrenching. Unacceptable. Insert any other word depicting disgust/shame and/or sadness

Is coming off a low base. Celebrate his effort. Don't denigrate it. What sort of supporter are you? Would you be happier if he failed miserably?

Roos just said on MMM that Watts asked to be dropped this week as he feels he has been letting the team down in recent weeks. He has his haters but I reckon that is pretty honourable by Jack Edit spelling

I never understood why he was dropped toward the end of last year, he was having a fine season up forward on a team with no midfield and barely any inside 50 entries and none of those entries of any quality. He should have played every game this season, he is better than Watts and Dawes combined. He was one of our top players today vs the hawks and the sad thing is he was only in the team due to a late change. Kicks goals, can take a contested grab, is athletic and can relief ruck. He will complement Hogan well. Paul Roos needs to wake up and start picking the best teams each week, not just the best names on paper.

I spent $178.15 at Woolies.

How much did the kids of GWS lose to Hawthorn by last week?

My free time on a weekend is far too precious to waste describing what I feel right now.

Oh my god seeing Neitz in the Hawks box is nauseating.

The last 8 years must have really desensitised me to these sorts of performances. I left the game disappointed obviously, but not tearing my precious hair out. My pre game prediction of a 78-point loss was optimistic unfortunately, the Hawks far too efficient moving the ball forward and in front of goal. The difference in pressure was certainly unacceptable and it's up to us to force opponents into error, but really, it was largely an unsurprising flogging of the worst 22 fielded under Roos by the reigning premiers who couldn't miss. The absolute clown comments from poons like Kennett I just roll my eyes at. Yes, this was a poor display, but after the Richmond win, every Melbourne supporter not partial to the crack pipe knew we would get done the next three weeks, and probably find it tough to get close to any of the clear best three teams in the comp. we just aren't in the same league sadly. Chin up and move forward. While we need to continue to make every post a winner at the trade and draft tables after being royally Prendergasted, today doesn't change the fact that the core group of youngsters at the club remains promising. Hogan, Viney, Salem, Tyson, McDonald, JFK, Brayshaw, Petracca, Kent, Frost and Stretch are all under 23. Yes, all clubs have good youngsters, but I'm no less confident in the people at the club to get the best out of these players now than I was at 2pm today.

Going back to 2008 has nothing to do with Roos. He is 1 season and 7 games into his tenure here as coach. We were mauled today by a superior team because we were abysmal in so many areas. With the injuries we had no choice but to pick 3rd and 4th rate players as we have nothing else to choose from. Once the season is over I'm hopeful more delistings will come and we can improve upon that depth. But we can't compete with the back to back premiers with the side we fielded today, no matter who was in charge.

What a ridiculous post. Yeah he may not be an elite mid but he's certainly a starting mid in any teams 22. You want to trade out our only competent midfielder in a list of 40 players? You need at least 14 players who can run through the middle and he's the only one we've got. He can't do it on his own, he was blanketed today by a hard tag - where was the chop out from his team mates? Every time the ball came to him at a stoppage he was tackles before he even had the ball - what can he do in that situation he's only one player. We lost by 105 points in case you didn't notice, I don't think that's on Jones.

My Family have fled the house!

Wish I could say I didn't see that coming. But I did.

Blame Jack Watts.

Rubbish. He was already good when he left Melbourne. I was gutted when he left because anyone with half a brain could tell he was going to be a champion. Didn't get on well with Danners apparently that helped him make his decision (sick dad), but would have liked MFC to do a lot more to keep him.

We can always laugh at Carlton.....

The concern is the number of players that have gone backwards. Dunne Vince Tyson Jones Howe Jamar Watts

Hawthorn 5.5 7.10 15.12 23.16 154 Sun 23-Mar-2008 4:40 PM (3:40 PM) Att:40,141 Venue: M.C.G. Melbourne 1.1 1.5 2.10 6.14 50 2008, the start of the rebuild. Look how far we've come. We come absolutely nowhere. What an indictment on the people who have run this club.

I doubt the MFC will be around in 5 years to be honest

Don't forget we led them a merry dance for the first 1 minute 37 seconds of this game.

Wow, there's some kneejerking going on in here.

Or maybe he should vanish like the irrelevant toolbag that he is.

"600thou"- Howe should join Jack Watts at Casey. His efforts today were deplorable to put it mildly!

Howe should be dropped. Terrible effort

10 plus blokes with under 30 games experience vs last years premiers It's not a huge surprise really

Such a beautiful day for footy. I left at 3qtr time and the faces of other Melbourne supporters on the train said it all. Absolute defeat. And I dont mean in the win/loss sense. I mean there was nothing left. One guy have me a nod and a look and it said it all. I dont care that we played the Hawks and we had guys out. Today was the WORST ive seen live since i started going in the mid 80's - and its pretty darn close to 186 in terms of hurt. I do not know for the life of me where we go from here. I can not see us ever getting out of the cellar. We will forever be a bottom team.

Chris dawes take a leaf out of cam Pedersens book. Pedersen attacks the footy, leads at the kicker and makes a presence/contest. Anyone who defends dawes is an idiot... So what he chases and pressures, he has to because his caught behind all the time. We not paying him $500k a year to chase and tackle. He's a statue, stands there and points and barking orders.. Fkn get on your bike and lead you idiot

Pedo has been awesome, our best player today, should have 4

Absolutely love this from Watts.

Get mum to wash the sheets. But if it happens{your dream comes true},put the sheets in a glass case and we will parade them every time we play the hawks.

I will quickly go and destroy all of our spreadsheets.

Drink myself into oblivion, although that's also the plan if we lose

Incompetent bungling heartless soulless gutless incapable unskilled weak insipid spiritless feeble characterless vapid submissive fainthearted chicken hearted lily-livered pusillanimous cowardly useless

Anyone who says we didn't lack depth before the game should be rethinking it after that game. I'm not even that [censored] off. We have a C grade midfield, with older blokes that make error after error and Hawthorn will punish you like no other. Our older blokes won't run hard enough to give their team mates an option and our younger blokes (who are showing the way with their cleaner, more effective disposal and attack on the ball) don't currently have the fitness base to run out games. Tyson (clearly carrying an injury) got a lot more of it in the last and we looked a bit better. I noticed someone said in the game day thread that we need Jones and Tyson firing and it sounds obvious, but when they're not on song, we just have too many of those aforementioned holes.

That win against Richmond feels like a long time ago now.

To all those blaming Jones, he was close to our best today. Which doesn't say much for the rest.

Got stuck in traffic and arrived halfway through the first quarter. Watched the Hawks kick 8 in a row and then left halfway through the 2nd quarter. I feel like I made a wise choice.

Lol

This club has not recovered from 186 & the whole tanking period I now wonder if it ever will. Make T Mac the Captain Tomorrow. I love Jonesy but he is not the answer The club is Dead against any pressure Thanks Schwaby you put the dagger right through this place. The jumper means nothing.

Dawes should be dropped and have Pedersen at FF and Hogan at CHF.

Geez the sugar coaters are gonna have a hard time defending this. Hope has been comprehensively erased by this game. We are nothing.

Go Jack!

I bet he's played 100 more AFL games than you.

Your hatred of Jack Watts is so sad. And you claim to be a Melbourne supporter? Support your players mate!

Wise decision from the club. If Hogan is sore then he isn't worth the risk. Give him a rest and get him right for the Dogs. Won't make a difference to the scoreline today.

Godspeed, Melbourne.