47 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Did you hear the barb she made? That Simpson and Longmire had pulled out because it wasn't a very good job cue laughter from other hosts.

She's clearly personally invested in seeing that Buckley coaches Tasmania instead, by muckraking and putting down our club and the coaching position. For what reason? I don't know, But she's like a dog with a bone when she wants something to happen.

Yeah, she really has us in the gun.

I think it’s quite bizarre to think that someone who has lived in Melbourne since 1994 would get offered a job that they can do from their current home, and not uproot their entire family, BUT would turn that down to move to Hobart.

His whole life is here, and it’s Hobart, not Queensland. Caro is clutching here, and it’s weird.

I can hardly trust Caro but Steve Smith has to take on the Presidency before we appoint a coach, anything else is just nonsense.

The Board elect a President.

They hire a CEO.

Together with input of a subcommittee with a Footy Director/head of footy etc they hire a coach.

You can’t have an interim President making moves only to hand over to the incoming President.

2 hours ago, demoncat said:

The board made a unanimous decision to sack Goodwin

And guess what, Smith is a board member

Even if it was driven by Green he alone couldn’t have made the change

Not my understanding that it was unanimous but you might be right...

38 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Oh boy…

So we are just assuming this is muckraking?

What if we are leaking against each other? What if an interim president is making/leaning on decisions that they shouldn’t?

Why should I give the benefit of the doubt? That’s not rhetorical.

Look I'm usually of the view that people are too quick to dismiss information from the media. They definitely drum up the controversy but most of what they say is based in fact.

I could be wrong, but here I'm not feeling like there's much of a story. Caro is drawing a massive bow from a line in a letter written a year ago that said Smith would take over after the 2025 season and that the timeline is now closer December. Outside of that it seems like she's spoken to a few coterie types and is trying to make their opinions out to be a bigger story than it is.

As for the notion that Brad Green pushed Goodwin out behind Smith's back, it's an utterly ridiculous premise that falls apart when you think about it for longer than 5 seconds.

34 minutes ago, rjay said:

Not my understanding that it was unanimous but you might be right...

I don’t have any inside information, but I believe it was reported as such

AGM is in December, so surely it would make sense to have that as the date for the hand-over.

The President can be changed at any Board meeting and is a matter for the directors, not the members. The change of President is not a matter for the shareholders'/members' meeting - no voting takes place at the AGM, unless a resolution is put to that meeting by shareholders in advance. Last year's announcement by Brad referred to a proposed change of President at the end of the AFL season. Given that our men have not made finals that would normally be interpreted as the end of August (or September - given that we did not know whether we would make finals at the time of that announcement).

If Caro's reporting is correct there has been a change to the "Kirribilli" agreement.

11 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Did you hear the barb she made? That Simpson and Longmire had pulled out because it wasn't a very good job cue laughter from other hosts.

She's clearly personally invested in seeing that Buckley coaches Tasmania instead, by muckraking and putting down our club and the coaching position. For what reason? I don't know, But she's like a dog with a bone when she wants something to happen.

I wouldn't worry too much. The general media scuttlebutt surrounding the club is not great (and part of what contributed to Goodwin's demise IMHO), but I recon Carro would be one of the last people someone like Bucks, Horse or any other aspiring coach would take seriously.

9 hours ago, rjay said:

Not my understanding that it was unanimous but you might be right...

I heard the same thing

Smith would be mad to accept this current board its not all together

elections sooner rather than later in my view There are puppets and puppeteers

Didn’t smith have coffee with Buckley in April yet Caro implying he was not in favour of removing goody.

Doesn’t add up for me.

I actually was wondering after her first opinion piece last week that she might be running an agenda for the AFL and Brendon Gale that they dont want Buckley to take the Melbourne job so he's available for Tasmania. Last night was a bit more evidence this might be the case IMO. If its juat her speculation its easy for Steven Smith to respond and knock on the head if he cares enough to want to.

I know who has more integrity out of Brad Green and Caroline Wilson.

It's not even a contest

2 minutes ago, spalding said:

I actually was wondering after her first opinion piece last week that she might be running an agenda for the AFL and Brendon Gale that they dont want Buckley to take the Melbourne job so he's available for Tasmania. Last night was a bit more evidence this might be the case IMO. If its juat her speculation its easy for Steven Smith to respond and knock on the head if he cares enough to want to.

I think youre on to something there. She does work this way. The tanking story ( zeroing it all in on just US anyway) was in the main to protect the gambling money coming into the AFL. Its why I refuse to listen to anything she says now.

29 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I wouldn't worry too much. The general media scuttlebutt surrounding the club is not great (and part of what contributed to Goodwin's demise IMHO), but I recon Carro would be one of the last people someone like Bucks, Horse or any other aspiring coach would take seriously.

Agree

But for me personally I felt the team played without a weight on their shoulders on Sunday. I actually enjoyed watching it for once.

Regardless of your options on Goodwin I think the fd needed a reset.

On board issues, their responsibility is to run a stable environment and give opportunity for success. I get the scuttlebutt but for me the proof is in the pudding of winning games or the vibe around the club.

And lately that vibe and success wasn't there.

We'll know soon enough of it was the board or something else once the off field stuff is sorted

There's been so much contradictory information about this topic that I'm just believing none of these journos.

We want an experienced senior, but we are open to a first timer but its Buckley's job to lose but according to Simpson, we never called him. Just throwing mud and seeing what sticks.

Green said he called Goodwin after a board meeting were they made the decision. Im believing Green.

Edited August 11Aug 11 by MrFreeze

13 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

Also stated that Keith Thomas was recommended by Steven Smith and he was overruled 🤦‍♂️

Yep, he was recommended by the AFL too.

What I would love to see Brad Green do is take a play out of game of thrones playbook and whisper names of potential interested coaches to a dozen Melbourne insiders and see which pops up in the the mouth of the oxygen thief that is Tom Morris.

Use this moment to uncover the leak, an then maybe take more games of thrones cues and knife them.

The main criticism in the media about SG's sacking seems to be the timing. To me, the timing isn't that odd.

They all seem to think we did it because we wanted to get ahead of Carlton. I think it's more about having enough time to properly go through the process to choose the coach well before players head away and the trade period commences?

12 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

The main criticism in the media about SG's sacking seems to be the timing. To me, the timing isn't that odd.

They all seem to think we did it because we wanted to get ahead of Carlton. I think it's more about having enough time to properly go through the process to choose the coach well before players head away and the trade period commences?

Well... it might be both.

We had no idea Carlton would do a very un-carlton-like thing and retain Voss.. and we needed some 'clean air' to progress our own requirements.

Caro said our sacking of Goodwin was messy and Carlton was good in keeping Voss.

Sam McLure on footy classified said Graham Wright offered the Carlton job to a couple of senior coaches who declined and he then told the Board to keep Voss for the time being.

Is that messy?

Edited August 12Aug 12 by Redleg

Not sure why there is so much Caro hate on this forum. She is, unusually(!), most often right and has an incredible network of connections within the industry she has developed over a long period of time.

FWIW, a lot of her friends are Melbourne supporters and people well-connected to the club. Is it her fault if people are leaking to her/other journos?

I'd be looking within more and asking why this sort of information gets out so easily.

I think her reporting is always balanced and she has hit the nail on the head here: why have we not an update from the Board/Green about the Presidency?? There should be instant change, and I am worried that perhaps Smith has re-negged and happy to be on the Board but doesn't want the top gig.

Green has displayed his incompetency (and yes, thanks for stepping in etc.) from his weak and pathetic open letters throughout the year.

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Caro said our sacking of Goodwin was messy and Carlton was good in keeping Voss.

Sam McLure on footy classified said Graham Wright offered the Carlton job to a couple of senior coaches who declined and he then told the Board to keep Voss for the time being.

Is that messy?

It depends if Caro reports it or not.

Jokes aside, clearly getting the decisions right is the biggest issue and the jury is out for now.

"It's even been suggested that there'd been unofficial conversations between [Melbourne] and Nathan Buckley before they sacked the coach." - Caroline Wilson on the Demons' interest in Nathan Buckley.

Surely not? :)

5 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

"It's even been suggested that there'd been unofficial conversations between [Melbourne] and Nathan Buckley before they sacked the coach." - Caroline Wilson on the Demons' interest in Nathan Buckley.

Surely not? :)

Very true
At 0-5 he was spoken to

The feelers stopped after the Sydney win when the board felt it had been turned around

While I do think Caro is being unnecessarily vindictive in her reporting, I do hope that the plan to transition from Green to Smith is still proceeding without issue

The last thing the club needs is to give the impression of board instability to a prospective coach like Buckley, who will be acutely aware of the effect that poor governance can have on a senior coach

Keep it together Dees and go get our man