Is this rumor, question or fact?

Would be a great pick up.

I heard on radio last week it was a maybe but nothing concrete.

15 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

You'd be doubly delighted if we picked up Zac Guthrie as well. Woody come to Melbourne, do ya reckon?

Pay that.

Surely the only way to get McKay is if a commensurately highly paid player goes out - I.e Petracca, Oliver, or the like?

I value those two much more highly than McKay

I think Harry plays his best footy as forward/backup ruck, which solves a real need for us and is good for his confidence as a player. It allows him to get up around the ball get his confidence up and then unleash forward. Won’t help our goal kicking much though!

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Could not agree more

See Collingwood... adequate but no stars in their ruck or fowards.

It's all about delivery

You're pulling our leg right?

Is it still possible to swap him for Sam Weideman?

I think the club's going to have to be aggressive and over pay for a McKay type, with respect to key forwards. We're not going to shoot up the ladder with Petty, JVR and Jefferson as out key forwards for 2026.

I'm blaming the last 3 weeks primarily on our forward line's lack of conversion. How do you possibly kick 26.46 and not lay most of the blame on the forwards? Earlier in the season we were losing games due to less scoring shots which could indicate that we were simply the inferior side on the day aside from the GWS game. However recently, we've dominated key stats including scoring shots, and that's on the forwards.

You'll probably wonder how McKay would address our conversion woes? 58-33, 45-31 and 49.21 in 3 of his last 4 seasons is how he'll address our woes.

Edited June 24Jun 24 by Bring-Back-Powell

If McKay comes to this club, I'm going to microwave my membership

Or dump 4 cubic metres of manure outside Punt Road! (oops....wrong club)

Beggars can't be choosers.

He is a flawed player, but probably the only proven, mature forwards on the market. Concussions issues are worrying.

I hope we still have our eyes on Ollie lord or Derksen - but I am a bit tired of looking at budget options, I hope we get a big fish.

37 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

You're pulling our leg right?

nope

Hill was moderately successful and on the market a few years back. His skills are separation, marking and goal kicking. Essentials for a forward but without the excellent delivery he gets he's back in the pack.

Mihochek ... moderately skilful who maximises his opportunities. Fritsch was better but not the last few seasons.

Rucks... Cox and Cameron. The latter is improving and is probably about the 6th best in the league but no superstar.

Grundy was traded because McRae had a view that rucks weren't worth the money. He's probably been proved right. The half backs and the midfield win games these days

Edited June 24Jun 24 by Diamond_Jim

We tried to get McKay a few years back. We offered him 6 figures in 2023 and he rejected it and stayed with the Blues. We are now a worse club with less money to offer him - unless Petracca or Oliver leaves.

I'd be all for landing him if we can, though agree we'll probably be overpaying. Can constantly clunk a mark and kick a goal, which is more than can be said for any forward on our list sadly.

We can't expect to land Jeremy Cameron, so let's be realistic. A Coleman medalist who can hit the scoreboard is a better option than battlers and NQR suggestions like Lord and Derksen who can't even crack a game.

Edited June 24Jun 24 by Lord Travis

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

nope

Hill was moderately successful and on the market a few years back. His skills are separation, marking and goal kicking. Essentials for a forward but without the excellent delivery he gets he's back in the pack.

Mihochek ... moderately skilful who maximises his opportunities. Fritsch was better but not the last few seasons.

Rucks... Cox and Cameron. The latter is improving and is probably about the 6th best in the league but no superstar.

Grundy was traded because McRae had a view that rucks weren't worth the money. He's probably been proved right. The half backs and the midfield win games these days

Hill + Elliot are an elite medium/small forward duo. I agree their tall forwards are mostly B graders though.

Cameron is a star I reckon. So underrated.

He’s not who we need right now. We need to keep adding elite kicks and guys who don’t panic. Bergman and Butters would be ideal.

So instead of scoring a pathetic 7.21 in season defining games we will score 5.27?

If he leaves he'll be at one of three Victorian based clubs, it won't be us.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think the club's going to have to be aggressive and over pay for a McKay type, with respect to key forwards. We're not going to shoot up the ladder with Petty, JVR and Jefferson as out key forwards for 2026.

I'm blaming the last 3 weeks primarily on our forward line's lack of conversion. How do you possibly kick 26.46 and not lay most of the blame on the forwards? Earlier in the season we were losing games due to less scoring shots which could indicate that we were simply the inferior side on the day aside from the GWS game. However recently, we've dominated key stats including scoring shots, and that's on the forwards.

You'll probably wonder how McKay would address our conversion woes? 58-33, 45-31 and 49.21 in 3 of his last 4 seasons is how he'll address our woes.

It’s a common misconception that he’s a poor kick for goal

Other than an admittedly very bad form slump a couple of years ago he’s actually been quite accurate and, as the stats show, has managed a lot of shots on goal

3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

It’s a common misconception that he’s a poor kick for goal

Other than an admittedly very bad form slump a couple of years ago he’s actually been quite accurate and, as the stats show, has managed a lot of shots on goal

When Curnow was out was when his kicking accuracy was poor.

Being the main banana will be enough pressure to ensure his kicking reverts back to old habits again.

23 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

If he leaves he'll be at one of three Victorian based clubs, it won't be us.

I’ve seen the same intel posted on Big Footy (yes grain of salt etc) but I have to say I’m very concerned that we’re not going to be able to land anyone of note this trade period

We really failed to capitalise on being a club in the window between 2021-2023 in terms of bringing in more A grade talent - could be a long couple of years if Lamb and co can’t start to bring in more like McKay, Bergman etc

Edited June 24Jun 24 by demoncat

Straight swap for Clarry?

Otherwise no way he fits in our cap

I probably would given we can’t take a mark inside 50 and have not good tall forwards

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think the club's going to have to be aggressive and over pay for a McKay type, with respect to key forwards. We're not going to shoot up the ladder with Petty, JVR and Jefferson as out key forwards for 2026.

I'm blaming the last 3 weeks primarily on our forward line's lack of conversion. How do you possibly kick 26.46 and not lay most of the blame on the forwards?

this also highlights our kicking for goal being a much greater problem than our delivery into the forward line. We are getting good shots on goal.

last year McKay kicked 49.21. Overall hes kicked 261.176. That surprised me. He's not a bad set shot.

Edited June 24Jun 24 by Bay Riffin

49 minutes ago, adonski said:

Hill + Elliot are an elite medium/small forward duo. I agree their tall forwards are mostly B graders though.

Cameron is a star I reckon. So underrated.

i'll add mihocek to that list too - he, elliott and hill are integral to the way that the filth's forward line works because of his mobility and his workrate

interesting that both he and mcstay started life as key defenders who have been converted to fowards in their mid to late 20s; not too dissimilar to our own plugger mac or petty to be honest

9 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Straight swap for Clarry?

Otherwise no way he fits in our cap

I probably would given we can’t take a mark inside 50 and have not good tall forwards

Clayton will 100% be shopped around again end of year, unrelated to McKay, Matt Rowell signing on probably helps our cause a bit, creates a bit more of a market

4 hours ago, binman said:

And I'd argue that small to medium forwards are now more important. Ah Chee, Long, Elliot, McCluggage, are the type of players I'm thinking of.

One reason why we brought in McAdam. Shame it hasn't gone to plan so far.

3 hours ago, clarrypetracca135 said:

giving bbb vibes imo

Mckay has looked much better in the second ruck for Carlt this year, he would take a lot of pressure off JVR and allow JVR to play closer to home. Much more of an up the ground player than BBB.

But with a big chunk of coin put into Oliver, Petracca, Kossie and Lever mainly. I can't see how we could afford another big contract out.

Apparently, we offered a big deal to Logan Morris from Bris last yr, Garry Lyon mentioned this on SEN, which good to know we had a crack. Dunno who will be available this year. Hoping our forwards develop and we don't need to go shopping, optimistic I know.

22 minutes ago, demoncat said:

We really failed to capitalise on being a club in the window between 2021-2023 in terms of bringing in more A grade talent

a) it's not for want of trying and b) A-grade talent is thin on the ground in general, and even thinner on the trade table. Once you take out go-home trades for players heading back to S.A. or W.A., it's slim pickings.

On the other hand, we have done very well in the draft, and have been smart in making the draft work for us.