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PREGAME: Rd 07 vs Richmond

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In: McVee

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    2 minutes ago, adonski said:

    I'm confident either JVR or Fritsch could replace Fullarton's 1 tackle today

    You just dont get it. What did Fritsch do today to force his way back into the side? I watched the first half of Casey and his work rate was non existent. JVR needs to bang the door down. Fullerton was serviceable today in the ruck and was in our best functioning forwardline of the year so far. The changes need to be minimal.

    May and McVee who are clearly best 22 for Turner and Sharp.

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    1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Out of interest Collingwood’s last 3 games against

    Carlton they turned it over 63 times running at 65% efficiency.

    Swans they turned it over 63 time running at 75% efficiency.

    Lions they turned it over 46 times running at 78% efficiency. They really hit their straps Friday night and were on a mission.

    I commented in numerous threads before Thursday night that not all of Collingwood’s players are elite kicks nor are all of their fwd 50 entries champagne footy but if the footy is moved quickly, kept low and delivered into an open fwd line dangerous fwds will more often than not finish it off. Turnovers may be a by product of this style of play but so is scoring. The template is now there for us, we must endeavour to play this way regardless of who’s playing.

    Yes, I agree

    And a number of teams are occasionally kicking long, low and bouncy entries to the 50 instead of bombing it long through the air

    It's an interesting ploy and can panic defences as those types of kicks can't be marked

    But you need good crumbers to make the most of those chaos type kicks

    We didn't kick too many long bombs today but when we did, we didn't look as dangerous

    Interesting that we only took 7 marks inside 50 but from an overall point of view, that low number didn't seem to matter much at all, as we got a lot of entries with handballing alone

    The contrast in how our offense was deployed this week as apposed to the previous 4 games was quite stark

    We clicked into gear and now that we've got a taste, we should become more and more adaptable to a changing game plan

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    5 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

    You just dont get it. What did Fritsch do today to force his way back into the side? I watched the first half of Casey and his work rate was non existent. JVR needs to bang the door down. Fullerton was serviceable today in the ruck and was in our best functioning forwardline of the year so far. The changes need to be minimal.

    May and McVee who are clearly best 22 for Turner and Sharp.

    Exactly Fritsch and Van Rooyen were absolutely SHIZZEN TODAY AND I WAS THERE! Time to reward the incumbent!! FULLO STAYS

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    Bringing JVR and Fritta back after their VFL performances and after our AFL performance would seem counter productive.

    Recognise and reward form. Only May (if fit) and then Mcvee (was solid on return) should come in to replace Turner.

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    26 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    Exactly Fritsch and Van Rooyen were absolutely SHIZZEN TODAY AND I WAS THERE! Time to reward the incumbent!! FULLO STAYS

    I was there also; Roo I agree; thought Fritta was ok and had a go; we scored when he was involved.

    Fritta for Melky or leave as is - can’t play em both.

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    i didn't take it from goodwin's press conference that they were all that confident that may will get up for next week

    disco is obviously out, and with the tigs not being overly tall in the front half, mcvee may be the replacement option

    People don’t like it when I say it - but JVR doesn’t have natural tall forward tendencies to exploit space and understand how the ball can be attracted to space.

    We all know Fritsch’s shortcomings…

    27 tackles in the forward half and the way we move it with the setup we had today may portent something for this club that is different to the two that were dropped.

    Long way to go but when you are drastically changing how you play - things happen quickly and some guys are just left behind…

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    1 minute ago, rpfc said:

    People don’t like it when I say it - but JVR doesn’t have natural tall forward tendencies to exploit space and understand how the ball can be attracted to space.

    We all know Fritsch’s shortcomings…

    27 tackles in the forward half and the way we move it with the setup we had today may portent something for this club that is different to the two that were dropped.

    Long way to go but when you are drastically changing how you play - things happen quickly and some guys are just left behind…

    Agree on both. Trial JVR in backline but he’s got a few in line before him. Fritta needs to put a block of 4 games at Casey. Min 10 goals and defensive pressure.

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    1 hour ago, picket fence said:

    Exactly Fritsch and Van Rooyen were absolutely SHIZZEN TODAY AND I WAS THERE! Time to reward the incumbent!! FULLO STAYS

    How was your love child?

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    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Sharp has to go. Once again, just adds nothing.

    McVee and May will come in with Turner the out.

    Tell you what though, i watched Ollie Sestan today and he was bloody impressive off half back. With us winning, I highly doubt he comes in next week but he'll certainly be very close over the next few weeks.

    Agree - it’s time to give Ollie Sestan a chance. He’s worked very hard on building his tank and I agree, very impressive off half back.

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    Last week we had 14 tackles inside fwd 50 and Fritsch laid 5 (can’t remember if all of his were inside fwd 50 but some were) and JVR had 2. So last week they possibly attributed half of them, doesn’t say a lot about the rest of the fwds and that’s when we were still playing ordinary footy. But suddenly we lay 27 tackles on the day when the whole team decides to lift and he can’t get a look in. As good as todays win was any player that makes us better must be considered. Tigers are in the process of rolling the Suns, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

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    Disco will miss with (yet another) concussion.

    Maybe , if May misses again, is it time for Adams? How did he go today, Casey watchers?

    McVee should return but for whom? Could he replace Turner - we could be a bit short in defence.

    Melksham could be on shaky ground, though he is a Goody favourite.

    Did Culley or AJ do anything to enhances their chances?

    1 hour ago, 1964nowMORE said:

    I was there also; Roo I agree; thought Fritta was ok and had a go; we scored when he was involved.

    Fritta for Melky or leave as is - can’t play em both.

    Fritta for Spargo for mine

    McVee for Turner (inj)


    Nup leave fritta out & give him another week in the twos.

    Not only was he not kicking goals, but he wasn't chasing or putting pressure on the backline & he still did some selfish things.

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    43 minutes ago, monoccular said:

    Melksham could be on shaky ground, though he is a Goody favourite.

    He’s a favourite cos he leads at the ball and is rarely outmarked. Adds a fair bit to the forward line.

    On DE%, I think you can get away with less than perfect kicking if you’re trying to hit players moving into space like we did a fair bit today. If you’re trying to hit stationary players among a zone defence you need to be near perfect.

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    5 hours ago, adonski said:

    McVee and May will come in if ready

    I don't want to burst the bubble but I don't think 100 point scores are sustainable with Fritsch and JVR in the magoos, even if they didn't dominate

    Oh seriously JVR is an average player on his good days and Fritsch hasn't played a good game since this time last year. Until they kick multiple goals at Casey forget them. One or both will be traded at years end. We still need KPF's.

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    B: Bowey, Howes, McVee

    HB: Salem, McDonald, Rivers

    C: Langdon, Viney, Windsor

    HF: Petracca, Fullerton, Chandler

    F: Melksham, Petty, Spargo

    FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Pickett

    IC: Langford, Lindsay, Sparrow, Tholstrup

    SUB: Sharp

    5 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    May would be an ideal “in” for the injured Turner but he’s said to have a worse injury than first thought.

    When was the last time we had an injury that wasn’t worse than first thought? Fitness and medical staff need a cleanout in my view.

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    3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

    In: McVee

    Out: turner

    Surely Blunt is at Casey next weekend. Milkshake must have been close to our worst today but there is no one else at Casey to take his place.

    May hopefully for Turner. We're in trouble if May's not fit. We can't swing Petty back after today so I don't know whether we go to Adams or we try to get away with Howes playing tall given Richmond's forward line.

    McVee IMO is straight back. Sharp should make way, although not sure what we do with the sub. Salem, however, on thin ice.

    Fritsch and JVR stay at Casey IMO. Neither played all that well today. What sort of signal does that send if we dropped Fullarton after one game, a win, to rush one of them back without any VFL form? I wasn't in favour of Fritsch being dropped this week but now that it's happened, we have to follow through.

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