The Draft Pick Upgrade Thread

[Garbo 1,483]

3 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Essendon might give up pick #9 due to their NGA prospect Isaac Kako possibly going quite high in this year's draft. But I doubt they want to give up their first round pick this year.

Think Essendon will be aiming to trade down so they can get Kako and a player before, if anything they will want our pick 5, so we should be able to get 9 and next years first if we wanted at a minimum 

Edited 15 hours ago by Garbo

[David-Demon 549]

9 hours ago, Nascent said:

Essentially we are interested in one of freos picks with our f1. May not happen if freo use two current first rounders for Bolton. 

We've been "blown out of the water" for suns pick 13 by other clubs.

 

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by David-Demon

[No10 445]

6 hours ago, Garbo said:

Think Essendon will be aiming to trade down so they can get Kako and a player before, if anything they will want our pick 5, so we should be able to get 9 and next years first if we wanted at a minimum 

Amazing that getting thumped by Collingwood in the final round dropped us from this p9 to our current p5.

I don't want to trade down the order as we're in the prime spot at p5 imv.

However, an Essendon death ride would be epic fun for 2025

[David-Demon 549]

19 hours ago, Roost it far said:

I think when you add them to our established senior core I believe our list is pretty sound. We need to recruit mids, I'd love McAdam to fulfil his talked about potential and I'd love a big, mobile key forward who can ruck, you know like that guy Jackson in Fremantle. 

so why did you sign Fullerton ?  I reckon we should have tried harder to keep Jackson.

[David-Demon 549]

On 07/10/2024 at 00:30, Fat Tony said:

Viney is not much of a forward IMO.

Given our list construct, with Petracca, Oliver, Viney and Pickett as good centre square players (assuming Oliver's hand heals) the perfect draftee for us would be a player who can play 2025 in a periphery role but can develop into a centre midfielder in future years. The Dogs drafted Rylie Sanders, who looks a centre midfield only, and they got limited value out of him this year as he wasn't able to play another role. By contrast, Windsor was able to play as a wing (or probably half back or half forward) and was more valuable this year.

I think the bigger centre circle and the 6,6,6 rule has made a difference in what types of midfielders do well at centre bounces and that skill and speed has become more important than grunt.

 

 

 

I think the deeper answer to your question is that we need to balance the need for inside mid needs against outside mids. As for Viney, he is not a forward-line player but a needed centre-line player.

[Roost it far 7,725]

2 hours ago, David-Demon said:

so why did you sign Fullerton ?  I reckon we should have tried harder to keep Jackson.

I didn’t sign him, currently that sits outside my remit.

[seventyfour 1,053]

Twomey reporting that 10 and 18 are going to Richmond for Bolton. Means the trade with Freo is likely off.

I hope Richmond might be opening to taking our F1 for 10. They can still draft loads of kids this year while having flexibility for whatever opens up next year.

We might need to throw in a sweetener but i'd prefer to get quality kids in now and back ourselves for a better year in 2025.

[Diamond_Jim 12,392]

Sounds like Richmond may do an early GWS... Draft lots and then trade the ok but not great players for more draft picks.

Makes sense and gives you a much higher success rate. Amazing what GWS did in those early years but still missed out.

Something tells me that Tasmania will not be given the run with draft picks that GWS and GCS received. You have to bear in mind they are not an "AFL conceived" team

[deelusions from afar 1,713]

Geelong managed to effectively build a multi premiership list with a lot of talent coming in two strong drafts (note father son selections aside, most are not really high picks):

 

1999 Draft 
Pick 8 - Joel Corey 

Pick 31 - Paul Chapman  

Pick 38 - Cameron Ling 

Pick 47 - Corey Enright  

 

2001 Draft 
Pick 8 – Jimmy Bartel

Pick 17 - James Kelly

Pick 24 - Steve Johnson

Pick 40 (Father/Son Selection) - Gary Ablett Jr.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,500]

15 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

Twomey reporting that 10 and 18 are going to Richmond for Bolton. Means the trade with Freo is likely off.

I hope Richmond might be opening to taking our F1 for 10. They can still draft loads of kids this year while having flexibility for whatever opens up next year.

We might need to throw in a sweetener but i'd prefer to get quality kids in now and back ourselves for a better year in 2025.

If Richmond think we're a genuine bottom 4 side next year they might go for it.

6 hours ago, No10 said:

Amazing that getting thumped by Collingwood in the final round dropped us from this p9 to our current p5.

 

I don't think the club were all that desperate to win the game given the draft order at stake, compared to the relative hunger that Collingwood showed.

ANB squibbed a contest early (at least by his high standards) and I thought that set the tone for the rest of the evening.

GC certainly made it interesting by not thrashing Richmond as they were close to finishing below us on percentage.

[Supreme_Demon 3,477]

13 hours ago, Garbo said:

Think Essendon will be aiming to trade down so they can get Kako and a player before, if anything they will want our pick 5, so we should be able to get 9 and next years first if we wanted at a minimum 

We won't be giving them pick 5# under any circumstances. That would be an utterly moronic decision.

Essendon are better loading up on points to get Isaac Kako. Otherwise they will waste pick #9 when an early bid comes in from any team that highly rates Isaac Kako.

The smarter thing would be for them to give us pick #9  and we will give them in return our future first rounder (for 2025), and picks 28, 40, 48, 53, and 64 in this year's draft. They can then use all these points to take Isaac Kako if an early bid comes in.

 

Unfortunately, this is only wishful thinking as I doubt Essendon would do this.

Worth a try for Jason Taylor to ask though?!

 

This is probably the Demons best shot to try and get 2 picks in the top 10 of this year's AFL Draft.

Edited 1 hour ago by Supreme_Demon

[Romey 150]

Thinking creatively, perhaps we use our surplus salary cap from missing out on Houston to pay the salary of a player to trade out in exchange for a higher pick. Maybe Collingwood would give up pick 36 instead of pick 52 for Tomlinson if we paid his salary? Perhaps there is another player we can trade out.

For context, paying the salary is reported to be the difference between pick 27 and 47 for Macrae going to StKilda.

 

[Travy14 1,866]

16 hours ago, bing181 said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned. MFC are interested in Lion's first rounder, pick 20. They need the points for Ashcroft. Apart from 28, for lower picks we have 40, 48, 53, 64. Then maybe add a 3rd round pick for Tomlinson if anything goes through under FA.

Not sure how much we'd have to give up for pick 20, but we obviously aren't going to take all those lower picks to the draft.

"The Lions will have multiple takers for the pick, with the Giants, Melbourne and Western Bulldogs among the clubs expected to hold extra middle-range and later draft picks by deeper in the Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period to have a swing at pushing up the draft board."

We ain't getting anything back for tommo, out of contract, so can walk.  And over 30 will be max 2 year contract on bugger all.  Won't be any compo

Edited 13 minutes ago by Travy14

[BangBnagBang 606]

4 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

We ain't getting anything back for tommo, he isn't a free agent.  Is just out of contract.  

Didnt Tommo come to us a free agent. isnt the rule, once a free agent your a free agents for life????