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How Chris Scott differs from other AFL coaches

damienjr
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39 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Yep, it's called an opinion. I think our list is better than Geelong's. I think Geelong had one of the weaker lists going into the finals. 

Weaker list but better when compared to ours on available players.

Out:

Brayshaw. Smith. Oliver and injured when played, Petracca, Spargo, Melk most of year, Bowey most of year, Lever multiple games, Salem multiple games, Max few games and others which made us a weaker side, yet we lost 4 games to top 5 sides at the time, by a point or two.

Fair coaching effort one could argue.

BTW which team with as above many unavailable players, stopped Cats unbeaten run this year?

 

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    Of all Chris Scott's teams I think the one I liked the best was the 2021 model. Ha ha! Ho ho! Hee hee!.

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    Jeeelong are a one Team Club in a Small City 

    Massive advantages on all Levels 

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    25 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Jeeelong are a one Team Club in a Small City 

    Massive advantages on all Levels 

    Greater Geelong area is now estimated at around 450k.

    Makes it the largest  'regional" city in Australia.

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    I think the most telling stat of this article is the age and list profile of the teams he’s coached. Interesting that his poorer seasons have occurred when he’s had a younger team (2015 and 2018). Scott is a master tactician, no doubt, but he’s always had an excellent core of senior players which is built off good list management.

    One of the reasons we were so poor this year was the influx of players with <50 games played. 

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    Chris Scott can polish a [censored]. Cats making another grandfinal with a semi-cooked Dangerfield, no Guthrie, and a lot of jobbers in their midfield is very impressive

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    34 minutes ago, adonski said:

    Chris Scott can polish a [censored]. Cats making another grandfinal with a semi-cooked Dangerfield, no Guthrie, and a lot of jobbers in their midfield is very impressive

    They haven’t made it yet….

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    5 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

    I'm not sure I see the comparison. Scott is one of the best public communicators I've seen and a master tactician. Goodwin is neither of those things.

    Scott had made finals in all but two seasons in 14 years. Goodwin has made finals in four of eight seasons.

    Scott started with a club that was well run, wealthy, highly successful and benefiting from AFL and State Government largess. Goodwin had to start with a club that was still crawling out of the bottom of the swamp after being on life support for the previous decade.

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    Chris Scott is often shown during games on the big screen at Kardinia Park pulling faces and gesticulating about umpiring decisions he disagrees with. I find this annoying and I’m surprised he’s allowed by the AFL to get away with it.

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    4 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

    Scott started with a club that was well run, wealthy, highly successful and benefiting from AFL and State Government largess. Goodwin had to start with a club that was still crawling out of the bottom of the swamp after being on life support for the previous decade.

    Bizarre excuse to give Goodwin. He was handed a young, talented list built by Roos that was primed to take the next step.

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    12 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

    Bizarre excuse to give Goodwin. He was handed a young, talented list built by Roos that was primed to take the next step.

    ... that needed time to mature and learn to win together, as opposed to a team that has won two flags in the previous four years.

     Geelong get advantages in so many levels starting with government handouts . And what about the media? The original article praised him for how he handled Strngle! Can you imagine what would have happened if that had been a Melbourne player, and the carryon  there wouldhave been about culture? He got a free ride, as Geelong always do.

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    16 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

    ... that needed time to mature and learn to win together, as opposed to a team that has won two flags in the previous four years.

     Geelong get advantages in so many levels starting with government handouts . And what about the media? The original article praised him for how he handled Strngle! Can you imagine what would have happened if that had been a Melbourne player, and the carryon  there wouldhave been about culture? He got a free ride, as Geelong always do.

    Again, Goodwin has missed finals in 4 of 8 years including a bottom 2 and bottom 6 finish. Geelong's advantages are not so great that they guarantee the sort of consistency Scott has been able to conjure. Any disadvantage we may have is not so crippling that it excuses our inconsistency.

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    Gee, I wish we had Chris Scott as coach... hold on, what was that? Surely an AFL deep fake! He failed??? WTF, He was the best in the world just yesterday! Oh well, I'm pleased a former MFC employee brough him to his knees!

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    Five lost preliminary finals must be a point of difference.

    No, wait, six.

    Even Ken Hinkley would be impressed.

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    9 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

    How far is Geelong's singular training base from their home ground and admin?

    And where do the players live all in Geelong?

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    9 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

    How far is Geelong's singular training base from their home ground and admin?

    And how many players would know front of house employees, not many.

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    41 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

    Gee, I wish we had Chris Scott as coach... hold on, what was that? Surely an AFL deep fake! He failed??? WTF, He was the best in the world just yesterday! Oh well, I'm pleased a former MFC employee brough him to his knees!

    Need some sauce for that chip on your shoulder.

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    I suspect if Chris Scott had been a coach at North and Essendon his record would probably be similar to Brad’s (zero grand finals made in 12 seasons).  Being at Geelong is a big advantage for him. 

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    Some might say that Scott has underdelivered.

    But two straight sets exits admittedly has a lot more ring to it.

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    4 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

    Bizarre excuse to give Goodwin. He was handed a young, talented list built by Roos that was primed to take the next step.

    Really? I count only about 10 or 11 really good players on that list of 45

    This is what Goodwin inherited:

    Primary list
    1. Brayshaw, Angus
    2. Bugg, Tomas
    3. Dawes, Chris
    4. Dunn, Lynden
    5. Frost, Sam
    6. Garland, Colin
    7. Garlett, Jeff
    8. Gawn, Max
    9. Grimes, Jack
    10. Harmes, James
    11. Hogan, Jesse
    12. Hulett, Liam
    13. Hunt, Jayden
    14. Jetta, Neville
    15. Jones, Matt
    16. Jones, Nathan
    17. Kennedy, Ben
    18. Kennedy-Harris, Jay
    19. Kent, Dean
    20. King, Mitch
    21. Lumumba, Heritier
    22. McDonald, Tom
    23. McDonald, Oscar
    24. Melksham, Jake
    25. Neal-Bullen, Alex
    26. Newton, Ben
    27. Oliver, Clayton
    28. Pedersen, Cameron
    29. Petracca, Christian
    30. Salem, Christian
    31. Spencer, Jake
    32. Stretch, Billy
    33. Terlich, Dean
    34. Trengove, Jack
    35. Tyson, Dom
    36. vandenBerg, Aaron
    37. Vince, Bernie
    38. Viney, Jack
    39. Watts, Jack
    40. Weideman, Sam
    Category A rookie list
    41. King, Max
    42. Michie, Viv
    43. Wagner, Josh
    44. White, Mitch
    Category B rookie list
    45. Smith, Joel

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    34 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Really? I count only about 10 or 11 really good players on that list of 45

    This is what Goodwin inherited:

    Primary list
    1. Brayshaw, Angus
    2. Bugg, Tomas
    3. Dawes, Chris
    4. Dunn, Lynden
    5. Frost, Sam
    6. Garland, Colin
    7. Garlett, Jeff
    8. Gawn, Max
    9. Grimes, Jack
    10. Harmes, James
    11. Hogan, Jesse
    12. Hulett, Liam
    13. Hunt, Jayden
    14. Jetta, Neville
    15. Jones, Matt
    16. Jones, Nathan
    17. Kennedy, Ben
    18. Kennedy-Harris, Jay
    19. Kent, Dean
    20. King, Mitch
    21. Lumumba, Heritier
    22. McDonald, Tom
    23. McDonald, Oscar
    24. Melksham, Jake
    25. Neal-Bullen, Alex
    26. Newton, Ben
    27. Oliver, Clayton
    28. Pedersen, Cameron
    29. Petracca, Christian
    30. Salem, Christian
    31. Spencer, Jake
    32. Stretch, Billy
    33. Terlich, Dean
    34. Trengove, Jack
    35. Tyson, Dom
    36. vandenBerg, Aaron
    37. Vince, Bernie
    38. Viney, Jack
    39. Watts, Jack
    40. Weideman, Sam
    Category A rookie list
    41. King, Max
    42. Michie, Viv
    43. Wagner, Josh
    44. White, Mitch
    Category B rookie list
    45. Smith, Joel

    Not to mention trading out Hogan and Watts immediately to do it all on Hard Mode

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    11 hours ago, Biffen said:

    Greater Geelong area is now estimated at around 450k.

    Makes it the largest  'regional" city in Australia.

    City of Casey 365,000 and getting bigger by the day

    You have to wonder if we're tapping in to the huge numbers out there

    Free memberships to the kids?  Let's face it, we're out there even after the Caulfield training base gets built (and that won't be until at least 2028 if it goes ahead)

    In the meantime, the club needs to embrace the locals and get them on board

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    Everyone bags us for not recruiting a key forward, how many years have the cats scraped by without a ruckman? Lions’ ruck had his arm fall off and the cats still couldn’t get the ball out of the middle in the second half.. 

    Scott is good, but his main game is have a bunch of guns and let them do their work. Unfortunately yesterday he backed Stewart who was woeful apart from one tackle, Danger also not great. Should’ve picked De Konig. 

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