Who can win the footy, burst away from the contest and can hit a target, whoever the best at this should be our pick

  On 08/09/2024 at 21:25, Sydee said:

I was probably most impressed with Alix Tarau who would be a good second round pick if available. Over 190cm mobile , good hands and doesn’t mind a bit of rough stuff.  

Second rounder? Not likely. Cal says top 10 and I think he's right, who knows, could go as high as 6! He's raw, but there's very kids who have his combination of reading of the ball in flight, athleticism and physicality. 

r

  On 09/09/2024 at 06:06, DeeSpencer said:

Second rounder? Not likely. Cal says top 10 and I think he's right, who knows, could go as high as 6! He's raw, but there's very kids who have his combination of reading of the ball in flight, athleticism and physicality. 

r

Thought I was being a bit optimistic 😂 He does look like a real good one imo and would love to add him to our list 

Question is whether we need a pure midfielder more - he may even be capable of midfield such is his mobility 

Anyway I’m sure JT knows a hell of of lot more than I do 😀

  On 09/09/2024 at 06:06, DeeSpencer said:

Second rounder? Not likely. Cal says top 10 and I think he's right, who knows, could go as high as 6! He's raw, but there's very kids who have his combination of reading of the ball in flight, athleticism and physicality. 

r

If you look real close after Alix kicks his 2nd goal, you’ll see me in the background rubbing my chin pondering just how high he could go…

I reckon we buck the trend of previous years trying to trade up, and we instead split the pick

Can someone post the part about Melbourne..

 

  On 08/09/2024 at 11:33, Young Blood said:

Its interesting there are question marks on a lot of the players in the top 5-6 that we may be picking from.

Smillie - Pretty poor season leading into the draft

Jagga - Size will limit his first few seasons until he can build his body

O'Sullivan- Injury prone year (luckily not soft tissue but a lot of impact injuries isn't great leading into brutal AFL level)

Langford - Lack of speed could limit his ceiling

 

I expect most of these players to come good but for Melbourne we probably do need someone who can play in our best 22 and have an impact their first season. I'm expecting the higher ceiling players that have more class like Jagga, O'Sullivan and Draper to go earlier to teams like Richmond, North and Westcoast who can afford to be patient and develop those guns gradually. 

I seem to remember that Clarrie had an injury plagued year , but we took a gamble.
Time for history to repeat 

  On 10/09/2024 at 07:48, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone post the part about Melbourne..

 

The silver lining of Melbourne’s disappointing finish to the season is that they now have a top-five pick in the draft. And in this even top-end, you could quite easily grab the top talent in the draft with the selection that Melbourne holds. Replenishing their midfield is a high priority with Christian Petracca’s long-term future remaining uncertain, and there are several options who can add an injection of class. Finn O’Sullivan may be gone by this point but his high-impact per possession and goalscoring threat makes him one of the most damaging midfielders available. South Australian Sid Draper has some wheels and has stood up at state league level, while Murphy Reid can provide the precise ball-use and decision making their on-ball brigade lacks. Midfielder-forward Sam Lalor shapes as the wildcard, a player in the Petracca mould with his strength and attacking threat. Or do the Dees look to shore up their limited key forward stocks with forward Harry Armstrong?

 

The more I see of players in the pool of potential retreads, the more I favour us focusing on the draft rather than to pick up duds from other clubs. 

I’m hoping we get three picks in the top 25.

It's looking like a bad year to have the number 1 pick (compared to other recent years)

Skinny, small-shouldered guys are riskier. They may not develop or not be able to physically compete in the AFL. Weights can only do so much.  I would not be picking Jagga if I was the Tigers

  On 10/09/2024 at 09:21, DubDee said:

It's looking like a bad year to have the number 1 pick (compared to other recent years)

Skinny, small-shouldered guys are riskier. They may not develop or not be able to physically compete in the AFL. Weights can only do so much.  I would not be picking Jagga if I was the Tigers

Jagga will be fine. It will take some time for the body to develop but when you've got this many tools in terms of pure skill and agility he'll be able to carve out a role pretty early on. 

I remember Walsh coming in super skinny as a no.1 pick and has filled out well over the years.

Jagga's ability to use the ball and relocate quickly as an option are Daicos like. He's going to be a gun.

  On 25/08/2024 at 10:00, Port Demons said:

Bit of Travis Johnstone about him too 

Funny, I got those vibes too. Laconic.

 

  On 25/08/2024 at 10:13, bluey said:

We’ve got Spargo coming back, Reid looks a bust to me.

 

I also have this fear for him. Could really struggle to weave his magic under more pressure at the next level & doesn’t appear to have the physicality to thrive. 

  On 10/09/2024 at 09:50, Mach5 said:

Laconic.

What does that mean?

  On 10/09/2024 at 09:50, Mach5 said:

Funny, I got those vibes too. Laconic.

 

 

I also have this fear for him. Could really struggle to weave his magic under more pressure at the next level & doesn’t appear to have the physicality to thrive. 

 

  On 10/09/2024 at 10:07, Demonstone said:

What does that mean?

Lackadaisical 

 

 

Is it pronounced lay-lor or law-lor?

Either way, I like him

  On 09/09/2024 at 05:28, drdrake said:

Who can win the footy, burst away from the contest and can hit a target, whoever the best at this should be our pick

O’Sullivan. Langford. Lindsay.  Lalor.  Gross. Dattoli. 

Edited September 10, 2024Sep 10 by spirit of norm smith
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  On 09/09/2024 at 06:06, DeeSpencer said:

Second rounder? Not likely. Cal says top 10 and I think he's right, who knows, could go as high as 6! He's raw, but there's very kids who have his combination of reading of the ball in flight, athleticism and physicality. 

r

Skip the first half of those highlights and you can then see some pretty good albeit raw talent. Be a confusing forward line with Roo and Tarau in there though. ROOOs everywhere 

  On 10/09/2024 at 10:51, monoccular said:

Lackadaisical 

  On 10/09/2024 at 11:43, Demon Disciple said:

Is it pronounced lay-lor or law-lor?

The latter.

  On 10/09/2024 at 10:07, Demonstone said:

What does that mean?

Not what the dictionary says.

I mean it the way it is used colloquially in relation to footy - looks almost casual.

  On 10/09/2024 at 09:38, Young Blood said:

Jagga will be fine. It will take some time for the body to develop but when you've got this many tools in terms of pure skill and agility he'll be able to carve out a role pretty early on. 

I remember Walsh coming in super skinny as a no.1 pick and has filled out well over the years.

Jagga's ability to use the ball and relocate quickly as an option are Daicos like. He's going to be a gun.

you could well be right. But Walsh had a broader physique than Jagga does. 

Whitfield is the closest than cones to mind. Been a very good player but no midfield gun. Toumpas and O’Rourke also come to mind. 

I’d always go the big bodied mid with a very high pick

  On 10/09/2024 at 11:59, spirit of norm smith said:

O’Sullivan. Langford. Lindsay.  Lalor.  Gross. Dattoli. 

Awesome,  who will be there at pick 5 and who might be there after pick 10, I reckon we need to trade for another first rd pick, whether that is trading our future first or bundle up picks for a club that will get fs/NGA.  Maybe Carlton if their FS will go that heigh

Edited September 10, 2024Sep 10 by drdrake

  On 09/09/2024 at 06:06, DeeSpencer said:

Second rounder? Not likely. Cal says top 10 and I think he's right, who knows, could go as high as 6! He's raw, but there's very kids who have his combination of reading of the ball in flight, athleticism and physicality. 

One contested mark in that package, plenty spilled. Loves to run and tackle, excellent second efforts

  On 10/09/2024 at 12:35, DubDee said:

you could well be right. But Walsh had a broader physique than Jagga does. 

Whitfield is the closest than cones to mind. Been a very good player but no midfield gun. Toumpas and O’Rourke also come to mind. 

I’d always go the big bodied mid with a very high pick

With Jagga yes he slight up top of course. But he has fantastic core/hip strength. This is why I liken him to Daicos. He has similar low centre of gravity and ability to twist and shift his hips to get out of tackles/traffic. Have a look at some of his games for Richmond in the VFL and you will see how well he's already performing around mature bodies. They simply can't catch him at times because of his ability to get out of traffic. His ability to get on the move and open up the ground is fantastic

On your last statement I would have traditionally agreed with you. But we have the big bodied mids at the moment (Clarry, Trac, Rivers) what we desperately need is what the best midfields have now which is someone with elite agility, pace and accurate damaging ball use. We have the physical contested ball winners. What we need is an outside mid who can get out of traffic and create with excellent foot skills.

O'Sullivan, Jagga and Draper are the three highest quality mids in this regard high agility, speed, skills and clean. Unfortunately I think all three will be picked ahead of us. If for some reason one of those slid (or we traded up) that would be amazing.