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Time to go Goody?

WERRIDEE
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I alluded to this in the other thread but this is probably the better spot for it.

These quotes really don't bode well for Goodwin

"The purpose of the review was to identify opportunities for the AFL Football program to return to finals in 2025."

"Our Playing List: The review identified strong confidence within the playing group and football staff that we can play finals next season. We have a very strong core group of players, but fast-tracking the development of our talented young players will be essential."

"Members may have noted our commitment during the trade period to secure an additional top 10 selection ensuring we have two early picks in this year’s draft. This aligns with our decision to continue bringing in high-end young talent to complement our core group and return to AFL finals next year."

"Game Style:  The review emphasised the need to refine our method of play, focusing on all facets of the game— with the ball, without the ball and in the contest. During the pre-season, our coaches will work on evolving our game style to maximise the strengths of our playing group, aiming for a style that not only propels us back into the finals but withstands the pressures of finals football. As a competitive measure, specific details of our game style remain confidential. "

"Our path forward relies on collective effort. With the reviews complete, our players and coaches are ready to put in the work needed to return to the finals in 2025 and we ask that they feel the support and energy from you, the Demon faithful, as we prepare for the 2025 season."

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Letter from Brad Green | Football and Board Updates

President Brad Green has written to members to share updates regarding both the AFL Football and Board reviews.
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    13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Won’t be too long….

    Opinion or inside word?

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    22 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Won’t be too long….

    Wishful?

    or

    You Have Mail ...


    53 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Won’t be too long….

    Surely he's done after round 8 if we go 0-8 with losses to all of Essendon, RIchmond and West Coast.

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    On 06/04/2025 at 06:23, beelzebub said:

    Do you realise there's a difference between MANAGE and define, design, shape etc ?

    This is what most people fail to appreciate. The FD and Coach create the image of the team it wants. This 'design spec' is what the manager then attempts to fill.

    Tim is the tail... not the dog.

    100% this..

    The results of what we are seeing on the field, whether they be finals, flags or years in the wilderness largely result from the head coach's design and machinations.

    Most often a few years in the making.

    Unlike the present share market crash brought on by a few overnight executive orders, most ups and downs on the field take a reasonable amount of time to play out.

    23 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

    100% this..

    The results of what we are seeing on the field, whether they be finals, flags or years in the wilderness largely result from the head coach's design and machinations.

    Most often a few years in the making.

    Unlike the present share market crash brought on by a few overnight executive orders, most ups and downs on the field take a reasonable amount of time to play out.

    I think this for me is one of the key reasons that I am frustrated and annoyed at Goody. Pre-game on the ABC broadcast they mentioned that we had (I believe) 15 premiership players out there while Geelong had 12. The experts were asked to discuss this and why then that Geelong were in a better position, Mick Malthouse pointed to Goodwin for too long being set that "these are the guys who won us the premiership" and not taking into account that that year we had individual brilliance of Trac, Oliver, Viney, Gawn, May, Lever, Petty, and Fritta. Now that all those players have trailed off (some much more than trailed off) the bottom end are being exposed for being average footballers that were playing at their absolute peak because they had the freedom to do so. Now that they are being relied upon to be something more they are shown to be what they are.

    He also then pointed to Geelong's ability to recruit for need and their aggressive style in doing it, they see a hole, they go and fill it with ready made quality. We have had holes in our line up since before the premiership, 2022 we also failed to take advantage of Casey's dominance and turn the list over. Bedford was an absolute failure, we was bashing down the door and yet we persisted with Spargo and Nibbler (who wasn't being as effective), while giving Chandler nibbles at playing.

    I've gone into a long winded rant to basically say this started a long time ago, I will always be thankful to Goody for helping us get a premiership, but his management of the team after that has cost us.

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    Goodwin should be happy that the owners of the Denver Nuggets dont own MFC.

    Similar coaching stints, got generational talent, one flag/championship, list/roster got holes etc

    One big difference is Denver is 4th in a very competitive western conference.

    I wish our board had the fortitude to make the right call now.

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    On 05/04/2025 at 18:59, bluey said:

    I agree with all those comments except Viney play forward,

    He’s small, slow, can’t kick off either foot, nor mark over his head.

    Some forward.

    He played forward in patches before to good effect, needs to get out of the center square asap.


    Boning the coach is really going to give the Government an incentive to fund millions of dollars worth of taxpayers hard down at the track.

    No President, No CEO, No Coach, it’s madness, utter stupidity.

    Sponsors fleeing the basket case.

    Sometimes you have to stand tough.

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    On 07/04/2025 at 13:00, KozzyCan said:

    I alluded to this in the other thread but this is probably the better spot for it.

    These quotes really don't bode well for Goodwin

    "The purpose of the review was to identify opportunities for the AFL Football program to return to finals in 2025."

    "Our Playing List: The review identified strong confidence within the playing group and football staff that we can play finals next season. We have a very strong core group of players, but fast-tracking the development of our talented young players will be essential."

    "Members may have noted our commitment during the trade period to secure an additional top 10 selection ensuring we have two early picks in this year’s draft. This aligns with our decision to continue bringing in high-end young talent to complement our core group and return to AFL finals next year."

    "Game Style:  The review emphasised the need to refine our method of play, focusing on all facets of the game— with the ball, without the ball and in the contest. During the pre-season, our coaches will work on evolving our game style to maximise the strengths of our playing group, aiming for a style that not only propels us back into the finals but withstands the pressures of finals football. As a competitive measure, specific details of our game style remain confidential. "

    "Our path forward relies on collective effort. With the reviews complete, our players and coaches are ready to put in the work needed to return to the finals in 2025 and we ask that they feel the support and energy from you, the Demon faithful, as we prepare for the 2025 season."

    melbournefc.com.au
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    Letter from Brad Green | Football and Board Updates

    President Brad Green has written to members to share updates regarding both the AFL Football and Board reviews.

    Problem being atm that there is literally no one to hold any of the football department to account for these. Having a CEO in place ASAP is extremely important otherwise the review will have been pointless.

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    the denver nuggets - who won their first championship in the nba less than two seasons ago - fired their coach and gm this morning

    using nba coaching logic Goodwin would’ve been sacked after 2023, Macrae after 2024, and Malthouse would be at his 7th club 😛

    he and sheedy fighting it out for first coach to be at 10 clubs

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    Why don't we have a CEO at the moment? When is there likely to be one appointed?

    Is the board recruiting and who are the likely candidates?

    Is it unusual for an entity to have a temporary President and no CEO?

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    5 minutes ago, Hellfire Dub said:

    Why don't we have a CEO at the moment? When is there likely to be one appointed?

    Is the board recruiting and who are the likely candidates?

    Is it unusual for an entity to have a temporary President and no CEO?

    the answers are already in this thread

    if we had an ai chatbot on this thread i think it would be an answer summary consistent of...

    • ceo recruitment takes time and intensive interviews

    • rumours have it that we have approached multiple existing afl ceos; they have rejected us

    • rumours have it that we have approached the likes of stuart fox; he has rejected us

    • rumours have it that we have approached the likes of football gms, such as jason mccartney at gw$

      • ergo, the board is actively recruiting for the role

        • rumours have it that smith has been consulted in the search and was underwhelmed with the first rank of candidates

      • david chippendall remains the acting ceo and is still a chance for the role

    • brad green has been at pains to point out that he is NOT a temporary president - he is a longstanding board member and the current president

    • greater research is required to determine whether or not having a president who has been in the role for less than a year and a longstanding coo who is acting ceo and also in the running for the role permanently is unusual

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    15 minutes ago, Hellfire Dub said:

    Why don't we have a CEO at the moment? When is there likely to be one appointed?

    Is the board recruiting and who are the likely candidates?

    Is it unusual for an entity to have a temporary President and no CEO?

    The board is incompetent is the only explanation and too slow to react

    Love to know what the review found out regarding PERT and his demise

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    On 06/04/2025 at 13:36, Fork 'em said:

    Just thought I'd pop in and say I been tellin' ya Goodwins gotta go for years.
    Had the opportunity to build this club for future generations but blew it by boring us all to tears with his mind numbingly ugly game plan.
    And now here we are, about to battle it out for the bottom of the ladder again and due to his delusion hand over our 1st round pick to Essendon.
    ESSENDON .... My god.
    There isn't even a silver lining.



    Yes there is we have X (Lindsay) so what do you say now!

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    2 hours ago, praha said:

    Problem being atm that there is literally no one to hold any of the football department to account for these. Having a CEO in place ASAP is extremely important otherwise the review will have been pointless.

    It's an issue but I don't think the club can really sit on their hands if the current form continues through to the middle of the year. Collingwood lost their president prior to the 2021 season but they managed to remove Buckley and start looking for their next coach despite facing a board challenge from both fans and Jeff Browne.

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    5 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

    It's an issue but I don't think the club can really sit on their hands if the current form continues through to the middle of the year. Collingwood lost their president prior to the 2021 season but they managed to remove Buckley and start looking for their next coach despite facing a board challenge from both fans and Jeff Browne.

    A CEO is more likely to make a call on operational changes without a President, than a President would without a CEO. The CEO is literally overseeing the day to day operations of a club - and a President really shouldn't pull the trigger on something as major as a coaching change without the oversight of a CEO.

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    3 minutes ago, praha said:

    A CEO is more likely to make a call on operational changes without a President, than a President would without a CEO. The CEO is literally overseeing the day to day operations of a club - and a President really shouldn't pull the trigger on something as major as a coaching change without the oversight of a CEO.

    The CEO would have input but coach removal would have to be approved by the Board.

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    7 minutes ago, praha said:

    A CEO is more likely to make a call on operational changes without a President, than a President would without a CEO. The CEO is literally overseeing the day to day operations of a club - and a President really shouldn't pull the trigger on something as major as a coaching change without the oversight of a CEO.

    Sure but ultimately you can't keep hemorrhaging forever just because the club has another position to fill. The people currently at the club will be responsible for making a decision.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/all-love-but-no-wins-is-simon-goodwin-s-time-running-out-at-melbourne-20250408-p5lq14.html

    Hidden at the bottom of this article is a snippet on the CEO - 5 candidates and a decision likely to happen by the end of the month.

    Will the first order of business be hiring a new coach????

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    i don't want the decision over the CEO appointment to be rushed. gotta get that decision right

    I believe an interim head coach could work (stem the bleeding, provide a circuit breaker) until a new coach is appointed in the off season.

    On 04/04/2025 at 16:33, A Bit Of Biff said:

    To me our tactics and midfield has fallen apart since Yze left us, a big miss for us.

    You mean the midfield tactics from 2023?

    Bomb it long and wide and hope for the best? Have a look at threads from 2023, we slammed our midfield

    Obviously we are trash now but let’s not re write history

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