Oliver Trade Rumours

[DubDee 26,112]

7 minutes ago, old55 said:

It's not over until the trade bell goes next Wednesday night, it's naive to think it is.

Can't wait for next Thursday

The journos can start on the 'Clarry will leave next season - Demons should have traded him' tweets

[old55 23,687]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Can't wait for next Thursday

The journos can start on the 'Petracca and Clarry will leave next season - Demons should have traded them' tweets

EFA

[ElDiablo14 5,002]

29 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

it's only good riddance if there is a better substitute

and therein lies a bigger problem

never mind, in the future AI-News will be the harbinger of a "real" truth 😎 

At this point I prefer street gossip tbh. 🤣

[Katrina Dee Fan 3,872]

57 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yeah that's what I said

Did you read my post?

Sorry, I misinterpretted.  I shouldn't post after letting Year 7s frazzle my brain!!!

[Macca 17,032]

3 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Sorry, I misinterpretted.  I shouldn't post after letting Year 7s frazzle my brain!!!

Ha ha!

Don't worry, you and I are on the same page although I'm probably harder on players who become laws unto themselves

There's red flags everywhere including just lately with the 2 missed appointments (Compulsory) and the D & D at the Brownlow

It's any wonder that the other players are more than annoyed.  Team rules apply to everyone

 

 

[homsar 431]

Weirdest thread ever

[The end is nigh 391]

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

[Melonmonster 124]

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Please don't keep these nonsense rumours swirling

The club have come out numerous times to say Oliver is going nowhere and will not be traded

The only reason it is in the news again is a re-hashed tweet with no new information as the 'journo's' can't justify their existence during a boring trade week

This is how I used to think,no faith anymore .

Every chance he gets traded, could be what’s holding up the Bailey smith trade.

just my thoughts … 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Getting back on topic... 

I think we have no option but to either keep Clarry or trade him for what we'd probably consider a packet of chips.

While we don't know much of the details, I think it will depend whether the FD have simply had enough and want him out at all costs (relatively) or if they think he is capable of turning it around to recapture some fitness and form. I can't see how another club would take him unless it's at a rock bottom price, which will likely include us paying a chunk of his contract

[DemonOX 8,800]

4 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

Yeah don’t bother wasting ur time. 

[binman 43,704]

7 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

Much Ado About Nothing

[Moonshadow 17,676]

9 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

Your user name sums it up in 4

[drysdale demon 4,837]

11 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

I can in two words " F " up

[daisycutter 29,701]

14 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

just normal trade time blues and boredom, with no footy to talk about

like walking into a bar at 9am on a monday

[Macca 17,032]

24 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

'Well at least we don't have to blow everything up' (like 2013)

[DeeMee 877]

27 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

Clarrie, Trac, Kossie are MFC players.

Media sucks.

[Ollie fan 3,468]

41 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

Sorry, got here late. Can someone sum up this thread in 10 words or less?

113 pages of mindless rubbish

[pitmaster 3,575]

7 hours ago, Roost it far said:

What’s said in public is often completely different to what’s said between 2 clubs. My guess is we’ve told Geelong, if you want him show us a respectable offer but leave the media out of it. I’d hazard a guess that Melbourne think they can get most/all the salary of the books, get Geelongs F1 and trade that back into this years draft. If we get 3 top 20 picks and pick 28 it goes a long way to changing the look and skill set of the team. 

And to repeat my take on it fwiw, I reckon Geelong let Oliver's visit become public knowledge in order to embarrass Melbourne. Consequently MFC could have been seen as having to rid itself of a "cultural issue" whatever the price, the emphasis being "whatever the price" because they knew they had nothing to match his true value.

Sneaky as, and all the heat comes back on Melbourne as a basket case while Geelong are seen as squeaky clean.

I think I might just go watch the 2021 prelim now as my compensation.

[Macca 17,032]

10 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

.After the last couple of months, it seems pretty clear that any leaking likely came from the Melbourne side of things somewhere.

I reckon a lot of media types are getting their info from a lot of player managers

And the player managers would have a lot of info

[Slartibartfast 17,518]

3 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Yes, very much agree. Particularly in the lead up to the trade period.

Who leaked the Pert phone call/s?  No player manager there.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

4 hours ago, old55 said:

If it's all to much to handle RBMB then just choose to tune out. Trade period will be all over next Thursday morning. Things could go many ways in the meantime - tune back in then and find out what happened.

Not a bad approach! haha might be a good way to condense a lot of nonsense into 2-3 minutes of things that actually happened, rather than days of conjecture and hyperbole. 

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

3 hours ago, Macca said:

Team rules apply to everyone

No they don't Macca, and havent applied for 20 years, well unless of course the coach is 'old skool'.

Treating people fairly, isn't the same as treating them the same 😀

[Slartibartfast 17,518]

3 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

That could very easily have been a player manager. I would have thought there would be every likelihood Oliver's manager was informed of those calls happening. Player managers have a huge say in the trade period, including negotiating deals, so I would be surprised if his management weren't across those approaches at the time.

In saying that, I think we have an issue somewhere in the club with leaking, so it could have been to do with that.

Either possibility exists in my view.

My thinking is that in list management it was decided to see what Oliver was worth. Rather than go through his manager Pert rings Lyon (this happened) to test the water.  This course was taken as they played together and it was just an informal call. The Saints had interest last year and now have two top ten picks.  Why wouldn't you ask? So in my view Oliver's manager wouldn't have known, only Ross Lyon and our LM team.

I believe Tim Lamb when he says clubs ring each other about players all the time, it just doesn't get out.  I've asked real estate agents about the value of my house on multiple occasions over the 30 years I've lived in it.  I've never had the slightest intention of selling but it's important to know the value of things.  It's important in list management too.

I don't think Lyon had any incentive to leak the call so I think it came from us. But I'm just speculating.  Why would we tell Oliver's manager?  Unless of course it just a continuation of the appalling management we've seen for some time now.

[deelusions from afar 1,854]

27 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

That could very easily have been a player manager. I would have thought there would be every likelihood Oliver's manager was informed of those calls happening. Player managers have a huge say in the trade period, including negotiating deals, so I would be surprised if his management weren't across those approaches at the time.

In saying that, I think we have an issue somewhere in the club with leaking, so it could have been to do with that.

Either possibility exists in my view.

I reckon the leaks to the media are from player agents - it's no coincidence that Tom Morris was at the front of developments of both stories (with a reliable source) and Oliver and Trac have the same manager.

[DeeZone 10,073]

30 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

That could very easily have been a player manager. I would have thought there would be every likelihood Oliver's manager was informed of those calls happening. Player managers have a huge say in the trade period, including negotiating deals, so I would be surprised if his management weren't across those approaches at the time.

In saying that, I think we have an issue somewhere in the club with leaking, so it could have been to do with that.

Either possibility exists in my view.

Geelong let everyone know about Clayton catching up with Cats players on the farm.!!