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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

As long as we get out of most of the contract you’re massively over valuing Oliver’s current worth. 
 

Put it another way, if he was at another club what would you offer to get him to Melbourne?

I tend to largely agree with this. IF IF the MFC even entertained a trade for Oliver, it may be due to the view that Oliver will not get back to his best, therefore the contract term coupled with the value of the contract therefore becomes a net-loss (from an output v input perspective). 

Therefore, whilst the MFC would arguably seek to maximise any form of trade from a collateral and trade perspective, I think it would get to a point where is true worth based on historical output would be slightly undervalued, as we would see the benefit being the contract off the books. Of course, there are multiple variables to this - the amount of contribution to contract, is he entirely off the books, etc. Regardless of the hypothetical outcome, I would think that the MFC is compensated in a manner commensurate with the salary contribution. 

FWIW - I don't anticipate that Oliver will be anywhere else other than the MFC. This isn't suggesting he'll be traded. 

 
16 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Would love to know how Geelong could legitimately satisfy us in a deal for Clarry. There’s simply no way they could appease us.

Shannon Neale, Ollie Henry and a first round pick. 
This was suggested on a Geelong board as a deal for Petracca.

 

46 minutes ago, Deefender said:

Shannon Neale, Ollie Henry and a first round pick. 
This was suggested on a Geelong board as a deal for Petracca.

 

amazed they didn't try chucking parfitt in...

 
1 hour ago, BLWNBA said:

I tend to largely agree with this. IF IF the MFC even entertained a trade for Oliver, it may be due to the view that Oliver will not get back to his best, therefore the contract term coupled with the value of the contract therefore becomes a net-loss (from an output v input perspective). 

Therefore, whilst the MFC would arguably seek to maximise any form of trade from a collateral and trade perspective, I think it would get to a point where is true worth based on historical output would be slightly undervalued, as we would see the benefit being the contract off the books. Of course, there are multiple variables to this - the amount of contribution to contract, is he entirely off the books, etc. Regardless of the hypothetical outcome, I would think that the MFC is compensated in a manner commensurate with the salary contribution. 

FWIW - I don't anticipate that Oliver will be anywhere else other than the MFC. This isn't suggesting he'll be traded. 

Problem with any trade for Oliver is his contract is so large relative to his output this year and off-field issues, realistically if we were to trade him we would end up paying a large chunk of this contract and only be getting a marginal pick back I’d guess late first round. Unless we need to get his contract off the books for salary cab reasons like pies with Grundy and Treloar it doesn’t makes sense to trade Oliver unless we think he had no future as an afl player and just want to get out while we can at any cost

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Just now, FreedFromDesire said:

Fair enough really. If I was Geelong I would be trying my best to attract him across as well. They have a fantastic history with managing to attract players, turn around 'troubled' stars (at least on field), and Oliver would suit their midfield needs it would seem. Nothing in the reporting says that Melbourne would listen to it, but absolutely believable clubs would be throwing out the bait given he would be at his lowest cost right now.

Of course, in saying that, I can't see Melbourne considering it unless we're going full rebuild with all aspects of the club, and I don't think they can afford to do that from a membership perspective in my view.

Clubs would first need to convince Clarry to leave, which won’t happen. Clarry is committed and loves the club. He has 0 interest in leaving. 
He will only leave if the club forced him to.

@goodwindeesmentioned this a month ago.

Edited by Dee Zephyr

 

Oh FFS.

Enough.

Let's 'start a few enquiries' at other clubs. Dees are considering trade approaches for Hogan, Gulden, Curnow, N Daicos, Sheezel, Serong, Young, Xerri, Warner, Waterman. That should do it for now. 


Jeelong's pitch to players must involve promising to keep them out of the medija (amongst the farms and cotton on tee shirts of course)

Everyone is tradeable, for the right price. Front up or bugger off!

I’m ok with listening to ‘reasonable’ offers for him but Geelong’s top picks are 15 & 35 in this draft… doesn’t help any perception of stability we’re trying to build when club’s without the assets encourage stories like this  

Just now, FreedFromDesire said:

Yes, absolutely true as well it would seem. Of course, players heads can be turned, and Geelong seem to do that well.

Are they also turning Max Holmes head towards us, to get that deal closer to being realistically possible? :laugh:

Geelong can have fun wasting their time, it will only be to the detriment of getting other stuff done

 

 


Wouldn’t be surprised if this happened as part of an attempt to keep brand Petracca happy 

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

"Again attainable". He didn't end up being attainable last year!

3 minutes ago, deegirl said:

Wouldn’t be surprised if this happened as part of an attempt to keep brand Petracca happy 

I promise you there is 0% chance we trade Clarry to make Trac happy. 
It’s the fastest way to make the rest of the list very very unhappy. 
 

 

Stengle and Bailey Smith can mentor him


This goes back to Andrew Mackie stating earlier in the year that Geelong had a list of targets, and Clarry was one of them. In his day, Mackie was the best sledger and mischief-maker going arouns. He isn't much better as a list manager hoping to be the new Dodoro. This will almost certainly have emanated from him designed to excite the press. A simple solution is to tell him to go away or ask about the availability of Holmes and/or De Koenig.

13 minutes ago, Tracforever said:

No chance especially as the cats want Bailey Smith.

100%. They don’t have enough capital for Bailey Smith as it is. 

 
39 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Clubs would first need to convince Clarry to leave, which won’t happen. Clarry is committed and loves the club. He has 0 interest in leaving. 
He will only leave if the club forced him to.

Not saying you’re wrong, but McClure said this:

“According to two sources close to Oliver, who wanted to remain anonymous to speak freely, Oliver has increasingly felt unwanted at the Demons this year. 

That feeling has peaked in the last two weeks as the trade season approaches.”

That surprises me, but there are posters on here who would know better. 

5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Not saying you’re wrong, but McClure said this:

“According to two sources close to Oliver, who wanted to remain anonymous to speak freely, Oliver has increasingly felt unwanted at the Demons this year. 

That feeling has peaked in the last two weeks as the trade season approaches.”

That surprises me, but there are posters on here who would know better. 

That surprises me too. 
I wonder if the review has something to do with it. 


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