POSTGAME: Opening Round vs Sydney

[Fanatique Demon 2,695]

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It's boring football, just really hard to watch.

The only thing worse than boring football is watching losing boring football 

[Ungarieboy 453]

We only have two marking threats in the forwards (Ftitsch and JVR). Without Picket our smalls are just pressure players (they rarely even get front and centre).

And our midfield don't tackle!

 

[Demonsone 2,050]

14 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It’s just Groundhog Day every time with this team.

It really doesn’t matter how many times you get the ball , you’ve got to be able to do something with it.

We still have the same forward line coach in Stafford, surprise surprise!

Horrible to watch, fumbly and wasteful and zero connection with the forwards.

If Schache gets another game next week I will not be there.

Stafford was there in th flag ..  I think it stems down to no brown or Tmac who were no match winners but created contest ..  loss of Jackson is starting to hurt

[Bystander 903]

16 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Can you believe Schache was a sub over Grundy in the final v Carlton .. how the hell is this guy getting a game 

Hard to believe. Even harder if you had seen Grundy's last game for Casey previously. Inexplicable.

How could you lose Grundy and keep Schache who has had plenty of chances.

[monoccular 17,697]

27 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Pathetic.

Oliver was clearly not ready. Schache, Chandler and Laurie are not AFL standard.

Thank goodness for our defence. This could have been a blood bath.

Despite Ollie's lack of preparation he was a solid contributor.  Who else would you have played?

24 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Terrible handling of the wet footy. Cost us 4 or 5 goals. Was an issue last year too.

Should we really put the sprinklers on at Gosh and Casey for training?  Serious question.

[The heart beats true 18,187]

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

New Coach please. Seen enough 

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

A deplorable effort Goodwin 

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I said it last Year. Goodwin Out 

Yze Senior Coach

And what are left with?

We get it SWYL. You don’t like the coach.

[dees189227 12,453]

I'm waiting up to hear what goody has to say. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,343]

25 minutes ago, adonski said:

Glad we locked up Sparrow for another 2 years. Don't know where we would have been tonight without those 13 touches.

He was one of the major disappointments tonight after a great practice match the week before.

Your opinion of him was vindicated tonight.

Did he have one clean possession?

[Deecisive 1,709]

1 minute ago, praha said:

Goodwin picked Schache over Grundy in a do-or-die semi final, but then never played him, instead stuck with Tom McDonald, who is still on the MCG right now completing a 180 degree turn some 6 months after the game ended. 

AND THEN he traded Grundy, before picking Schache to play *against* Grundy as the backup to Gawn, the role Grundy was originally recruited to Melbourne for. Only for Grundy to smack them both.

You couldn't come up with a more Melbourne storyline if you tried. 2021 is such a pipedream. Only Melbourne could [censored] up having two AA ruckman 

i still think picking Schache over Grundy may have cost us going further in the finals last year, possibly the grand final. Grundy did tonight what he did in a few games for us when max went forward. unfortunately max could not kick the goals so we dumped Grundy. Tonight he showed that we are extremely vulnerable with Max and other teams will learn from that and will do likewise, they will get in front of him, stick their knee into his back and side, whacking around the head every chance they get. Max is not a physical ruckman who will jump into the opposition player, he tries to stand there any use his reach, even the swans second string ruckman beat him many times tonight. he needs to adjust his game plan so do our players in the centre can cover the opposition winning the tapout. very disappointing performance on so many levels.

[BLWNBA 1,482]

Goodwin continues to be the worst match day coach in the league. To say he’s even reactive is overselling it. 

He absolutely has to go. If people want to drink his bath water from ‘21; fine. But he had a Ferrari and he’s continued to treat it like a lawnmower. 

The selection committee isn’t far off either. There’s absolutely no transparency or authenticity of selection. To bring Spargo in after his off season was a joke, not to mention the decision to play Laurie, Chandler and Spargo in the one side. 
 

 

[Bates Mate 4,511]

Yes our forward structures are still bad. But the fact is that it's our mids who make it so difficult for them.

We rush it in when we should take time, we are too slow to move it when we should be quick . Our mids lack composure and skills. Clarry, Viney,Track, Gawn, sparrow who do you trust out of those to make a good decision and hit a target. Contested beasts who get it forward through sheer strength and will but not players who help forwards.

Look at that mcvee play to fritta a composed player with skills, we want improve until we have players with those attributes delivering it to the forward line.

Mcvee, Salem, Windsor, rivers, Bowey have the ability but ones a rookie and the rest we pay back the majority of the time. 

 

Something's got to change 

 

 

Edited March 7, 2024 by Bates Mate

[leave it to deever 17,598]

8 minutes ago, layzie said:

Oh no the media 

To be fair I'm giving them their props tonight Layzie.

We deserve to be fried for that lack of effort.

I was hoping for so much better than the tripe we served up tonight.

It would be fair to drop about ten players from that list tonight.

To start with Laurie. Spargo. Chandler. Schache.

So many players have lost form.... Lever, Rivers, Langdon, Nibbler.

I hope Bowey is ok. Can't afford to lose him. 

Ironically Grundy smashed Max. 

I know he's captain.He's better off leading my example than talking. 

The biggest concern for me is our backs have been against the wall with the media on us and losing Gus.

That was our response.

I think there is significant reason to be concerned.

Kozzie needs an anger management course. Doesn't matter how good he is if he can't play.

Goody was so slow to sub Laurie off who he shouldn't have selected in the first place.

We have time now to reset but I don't see how we can fix our forward line. That should have been done three years ago but we must keep learning first.

Another champion game from Jack.

Nice purple patch from Fritta.

Oliver not ready.

[Sir Why You Little 37,338]

2 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

We get it SWYL. You don’t like the coach.

And it will continue until we get serious change

Come with me

[dees189227 12,453]

Gawny being interviewed on 7 now. Said it was like playing in Darwin, very hot and we were very fumbly, said Grundy was good and took the points. 

Happy with the 1st gamers and can't wait to get kozzie and petty back.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

3 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm waiting up to hear what goody has to say. 

One word. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

21 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

I know it was greasy & slippery, but our ball handling looked like Tallygaroopna v Manangatang reserves in mid winter.

Nothing has changed in 2 seasons plus a pre-season now.  We are terrible in wet or greasy conditions and have no idea how to play a wet weather style game in these conditions.

Also the Sydney ground if shorter than most.  Don't play the wings too often.  Keep going through the corridor or close to it as often as possible and go as long as you can once you're roughly a kick or so out from kicking it to the 40 or further.

Playing wide at Sydney for serious minutes is a death trap.  The extra width means you are taking the long way around, bogging yourself down and allowing the oppo to get back and set up nicely in defence.

SG would not have witnessed any of these strategic problems as he coached from the bench all night.  Were these issues passed on to him at half time from the brains trust in the box?  Didn't appear so.

Edited March 7, 2024 by Demon Dynasty

[ANG13 2,091]

My biggest concern going into this season was the psychology of this group and my concern didn’t diminish after that. 
 

It really is hard to believe after having such forward disconnect last year that after having months to work on it it’s still a massive issue. It’s also hard to believe Stafford is still our forward coach. 
 

A few players can hold their heads up after that and a couple of them were first gamers. Overall that was putrid and just bloody hard to watch. 

[Gunna’s 2,104]

Gawny just mentioned he wasnt feeling well and the heat took a toll. 
 

Dust off and get ready to smash the dogs.

Edited March 7, 2024 by Gunna’s

[Emerald 1,744]

One of those tall guys from Casey last year played well tonight, the other one didn't.

[leave it to deever 17,598]

4 minutes ago, Bystander said:

Hard to believe. Even harder if you had seen Grundy's last game for Casey previously. Inexplicable.

How could you lose Grundy and keep Schache who has had plenty of chances.

Or the five gamer in  Laurie to replace Gus in the game against cwood. Genius.

[Hopeful Demon 1,518]

Honestly that was just a really poor effort. No excuses.

I can handle a loss but it would've been nice to actually try something new for a change. We have the exact same problems that we had last year. Blind bombing into the forwardline, inaccuracy in front of goal, and predictable ball movement.

It's too early to give up on us but jesus that performance didn't inspire confidence.

[Garbo 1,559]

Swans smashed us round the ball with a team nominally missing the 3 of there best midfielders and swans are a below average team in the regard even if they had a full complement. Don’t delude yourself and think this will get any easier 

Edited March 7, 2024 by Garbo

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,779]

This looks and sounds like

Arsenal TV from 2-3 years ago!

How far we have fallen F M D.

[BoBo 2,953]

Ummmmmm. 
 

I don’t know what positives there were to take away from that. 

[DemonOX 8,837]

@picket fence u have been going on about how good Schache has been. 
 
How do u think he went tonight??

Personally he needs to be dropped along with Laurie and Spargo. 

Not good enough unfortunately.