2024 Injury List

[Demonland 71,869]

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

Thank heavens for that.

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10 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Carlton would argue Weitering, Marchbank and Docherty is a massive hit to their defensive set up

It’s a blow yes, but I’m very much about don’t worry about who you haven’t got worry about who you have got.

Just get through it as best we can and get May back when he’s ready

Yep, Carlton are trilled to have snuck a couple of wins early with multiple absolute top-tier players out.

The importance of Harry McKay being not only in form but also kicking straight (6.1 in two games) cannot be understated and the inclusion of Weitering, Walsh, Martin and Motlop will leave them with basically no weak part of the ground.

Round nine should be a ripper - touch wood both teams are close to full strength by then and we can get an interesting grand final preview.

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12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Sounds like one of his ribs has healed already

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16 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

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13 hours ago, layzie said:

Except the year we won it.

The year we won it Stephen May missed 3 weeks (we got lucky with the Richmond game meaning it was only 3 games when he actually missed 4 weeks) with a fractured eye socket after Tom Hawkins threw his elbow back in his face. 

We then lost our other form key back, Adam Tomlinson to an ACL against North when he was in career best form and had locked down the third KPD the week Maysie was ready to come back, with his replacement, young Harrison Petty causing much hand wringing at first. 
 

We were also without our then two first choice forwards Brown and Weideman for most of the first 10 weeks with injury with their replacements, TMac and a young Luke Jackson, surprising everyone by taking it by storm. 
 

We have our injury challenges this year, exacerbated by the loss of Brayshaw and Smith, but our premiership year also had its challenges and this current situation may just enable us to find a new setup that makes us even better. Fingers crossed. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 hour ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

The less we hear about Lever, the better, I think (hope). Although it wouldn't surprise me if he's just a quiet, late out for the Port game. But if he's in, it'll make it easier to plug that hole. May isn't really the sort of guy you can cover, and he was in good form, but Tommo can do it ...

The problem with losing either of May/Lever is that they are our generals in defence. It's like having an on-field coach.

The problem with losing both of them is we also lose the on-field coach aspect. We're not exactly back in Frost/Oscar territory, but the cohesiveness our of defence relies on having at least one of them on the ground.

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Wouldn’t rush either of them. Probably be cautious this week, set Lever for Adelaide and May for Brisbane. 
We can beat Port with TMAC, Petty and Hore. 

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Tempt Hibberd with a Michael Jordan like return in the pre season draft.

[Demonland 71,869]

5 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The problem with losing either of May/Lever is that they are our generals in defence. It's like having an on-field coach.

The problem with losing both of them is we also lose the on-field coach aspect. We're not exactly back in Frost/Oscar territory, but the cohesiveness our of defence relies on having at least one of them on the ground.

This is exactly the point I will be making on the podcast. I have no doubt we can cover the positions albeit not to the exact same levels with May and Lever in the team. What we can't replace is the coaching on the field, the talk and positioning etc.

[layzie 33,792]

Almost a year to the day of sweating on Max's knee scans we receive some more post Rd 2 lady luck. 

No doctor but 2 cracked ribs and a crack in the tranverse process sounds a hell of a lot better than 3 broken ribs and a crack in the vertabrae.

Also a slice of luck with Rick as it sounds like some kneecap bruising. Sure didn't look like it at first 😄

[Young Angus 790]

Anyone know much about the "transverse process fracture"...it sounds very serious but they don't seem too concerned???

[Demonland 71,869]

“Steven was obviously in a lot of pain following that heavy contact in the second quarter of Saturday’s game, so we sent him off to hospital for some scans,” Richardson said.

“The results of these showed two fractures to his ribs, and a small transverse process fracture.

“At this stage, Steven will miss this week’s match against Port Adelaide. We will continue to monitor his pain and function following that, in the lead up to our Round 4 game.”

Fellow defender Jake Lever also sat out the majority of the second half, hindered with a knee concern.

The 28-year-old underwent scans on Sunday, which ruled out any significant structural damage.

“Pleasingly, Jake has been cleared of major injury to his right knee. He, instead, looks to have irritated a joint under his kneecap,” Richardson said.

“We will see how he responds this week at training, but we are optimistic he will be available for Saturday night’s game in Adelaide.”

Melbourne will now prepare to face Port Adelaide in five days’ time, for the first of two back-to-back games at Adelaide Oval.

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38 minutes ago, Demonland said:

This is exactly the point I will be making on the podcast. I have no doubt we can cover the positions albeit not to the exact same levels with May and Lever in the team. What we can't replace is the coaching on the field, the talk and positioning etc.

Salem was moved to the backline immediately once May came off not because he’s a like for like, but because he helps with leadership and direction. I suggest the same will happen this week. 
 

This is where losing Gus just sucks even more. He would be the general down back in the absence of either May or Lever. 

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15 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Do they release someone from hospital with a cracked vertebrae?

Yes if stable and not part of the spinal cord surrounds. 

15 hours ago, Superunknown said:

The club should be ramping up the invective against the AFL and Chol - reckless, duty of care etc etc 

And add in the reckless assault on Max after he marked - not even a bloody 50 meter which it should have been every time

14 hours ago, jane02 said:

My husband cracked his vertebrae a few years ago and had to wear a brace for six months. It was very painful and certainly limited his movement. I know each case is different ( and my husband is much older than Maysie and not an athlete) but you have to tread carefully and allow healing to occur slowly.

No two injuries are the same.  Remember Lockdown Dan was in a brace for months.  Other can fracture transverse processes and hardly notice it. 

5 hours ago, dees189227 said:

For starters may wouldn't be able to fly & secondly we need him right for the back half of the season. 

My worry is when he comes back if he'll be targeted. 

Hopefully lever is ok

Agree re caution but target May at your own peril. 

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14 hours ago, jane02 said:

My husband cracked his vertebrae a few years ago and had to wear a brace for six months. It was very painful and certainly limited his movement. I know each case is different ( and my husband is much older than Maysie and not an athlete) but you have to tread carefully and allow healing to occur slowly.

Jane, that would not have been an enjoyable 6 months. While all injuries are different it is often the case with back injuries that muscular imbalances and dysfunctional movement patterns become the main issue after the initial acute injury.  The physios will make sure that Maysie is keeping his trunk mobile and exercising with a level that is tolerable so that he is ready to play.

While I'm sure he will be in pain the players and club medicos understand that pain is just feedback and nothing to worry about. This is a problem I see with general medicine that doctors tell civilians to avoid pain and prescribe pain medication rather than work through it in a sensible manner.

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27 minutes ago, Young Angus said:

Anyone know much about the "transverse process fracture"...it sounds very serious but they don't seem too concerned???

As they say in the classics….’it ain’t nuthin’. Is a small bony projection off the side of the back of the vertebra that functions as a muscle attachment. The kind of thing that plenty of players in the past would crack from an impact injury, and if not scanned/xrayed (this happened a lot in the past), would just be put down to bruising. When it feels ok, play as able. 

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47 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Salem was moved to the backline immediately once May came off not because he’s a like for like, but because he helps with leadership and direction. I suggest the same will happen this week. 
 

This is where losing Gus just sucks even more. He would be the general down back in the absence of either May or Lever. 

Salem played the whole game in defence. Petty was moved back when Lever went off.

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1 hour ago, Young Angus said:

Anyone know much about the "transverse process fracture"...it sounds very serious but they don't seem too concerned???

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54 minutes ago, Webber said:

As they say in the classics….’it ain’t nuthin’. Is a small bony projection off the side of the back of the vertebra that functions as a muscle attachment. The kind of thing that plenty of players in the past would crack from an impact injury, and if not scanned/xrayed (this happened a lot in the past), would just be put down to bruising. When it feels ok, play as able. 

Webber, is it just semantics on words “cracked and fractured” or medically, are they quite different when discussing rib injuries?

Whatever, I see May missing both Adelaide games and then the Lions and with the bye, he would have a 5 week recovery.

That is the non medical assessment of course.

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2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Webber, is it just semantics on words “cracked and fractured” or medically, are they quite different when discussing rib injuries?

Whatever, I see May missing both Adelaide games and then the Lions and with the bye, he would have a 5 week recovery.

That is the non medical assessment of course.

Non Medical but seems the most sensible to me as well.  There is a short turn around to the Adelaide game and then why not rest him for Brisbane coupled with the bye just to make sure.

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22 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Webber, is it just semantics on words “cracked and fractured” or medically, are they quite different when discussing rib injuries?

Whatever, I see May missing both Adelaide games and then the Lions and with the bye, he would have a 5 week recovery.

That is the non medical assessment of course.

Semantics, Redleg. Crack is more commonly used when referring to a fracture that doesn’t go ‘through’ the bone entire or is ‘undisplaced’. In other words, if you didn’t see the fracture ‘line’, you wouldn’t know the bone is broken. A ‘displaced’ fracture, of which there’s a spectrum of severity, means the bone is not aligned as ‘normal’ either side of the crack/s. Jeremy Howe’s arm last year was a displaced fracture. Very. Nobody’s calling that a crack. 
As to Maysie’s return, the issue will be pain. Playing won’t make the situation worse. The contrary situation to this would be if someone had a crack in their navicular bone (arch, or midfoot), which is a vital weight-bearing, structural bone. Crack might be there on imaging, but without pain. No way that player plays until the crack is fully resolved, regardless of pain. Reason being that the crack can turn into a bigger crack, and career over. Not the case with ribs, or transverse process. 

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2 hours ago, deejammin' said:

The year we won it Stephen May missed 3 weeks (we got lucky with the Richmond game meaning it was only 3 games when he actually missed 4 weeks) with a fractured eye socket after Tom Hawkins threw his elbow back in his face. 

He actually only missed one game from that incident, and he would have had to miss it anyway due to concussion protocols. Also famously played the GF with a 12-week hamstring tear, if he misses just one with his latest injury then the guy is just made differently. Good result for us though! 

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Credit to Goody for getting Tmac , Bbb and Petty up and about.

Petty will go back and help Tmac.

I imagine Tommo will get another game either as sub or to allow Petty to swing fwd.

In any case we have done well. There is a lot of luck on footy. And we haven't had a great deal of it.

May has been in great form and a huge loss.

Imagine if Tmac and Petty were still injured.

What with smith and Gus we have a lot of players out.

I thought Tmac was quite good again and Petty was moving better than expected.

 

[dees189227 12,385]

Surely you couldn't fly with a fractured rib. Keep him right for the Brisbane game

Anyway happy to see lever escaped serious knee damage