On 01/04/2024 at 05:53, roy11 said:

Funny trade looking back at it.

We sent out Pick 10, 2018 First Round and 2018 Fourth Round and in return we got Jake Lever, Pick 35 and 2018 Third Round Pick.

With Pick 35 we chose Harrison Petty.

IIRC Adelaide used those picks for Bryce Gibbs  which didn't exactly work wonders for them, whereas Petty/Lever helped us win a flag and now they're going to need to offer us some decent picks if they want to get Petty.
 

Trading for Bryce Gibbs was always a big gamble 😉

  On 01/04/2024 at 05:27, whatwhat say what said:

they really didn't

You can't look at what lever has done for us since the trade. You have to look at it at the time the trade was made. 

They absolutely made us pay up which is all I'm saying we should do should petty want to leave

No Melbourne nice guy like grundy

  On 01/04/2024 at 11:50, jnrmac said:

You can't look at what lever has done for us since the trade. You have to look at it at the time the trade was made. 

They absolutely made us pay up which is all I'm saying we should do should petty want to leave

No Melbourne nice guy like grundy

two first round picks is what a 21 year old tall defender who has made an all oztrayan squad should be worth and that we got some 'change' out of it - and with jt picking the eyes out of the draft in selecting petty - was a bonus

similarly, by this logic, we made flagmantle 'pay up' for dog jackson; never had a team given as much for a player as they did to get him in

getting rid of grundy - who didn't want to be there and was contracted to us for ~650k for the next handful of years - for a pick 46 last year and sydney's future second-round pick (which is actually more than it cost us to get him in i think? pick 27 or so?) was good business

We can move him on with decent compo after our flag this year.

  On 01/04/2024 at 04:53, jnrmac said:

Adelaide screwed us to the wall for Lever

IF he goes it would be nice to return the favour.

They still owe us for Scott Thompson. 

  On 01/04/2024 at 22:09, Fat Tony said:

They still owe us for Scott Thompson. 

now this one i agree with

from memory it effectively became a swap of thommo for moloney?

the latter was good; the former was very good

  On 01/04/2024 at 04:53, jnrmac said:

Adelaide screwed us to the wall for Lever

IF he goes it would be nice to return the favour.

Wasn't it two pick in the teens for Lever? That's a steal

If Adelaide gave us their '24 and '25 first for Petty we'd be well on top. They are bottom 6 rubbish

But I'd much rather he stayed and signed on again. His value to us as a team is huge

Petty is just now coming into his prime as a footballer so the compensation will mean we have to recruit a replacement of the same quality and age.

We should make an offer he cannot refuse.

Would love to keep Petty I hope he stays, can't wait for Jeffo to get up to speed after seeing him on the weekend.  Marking awesome...kicking not so much but just needs to practice.  Looked very competitive and hungry, not sure if that is out of the ordinary for him because I don't watch much VFL but Jeffo looked pretty good and exciting.  

  On 06/04/2024 at 22:01, Jeremy said:

Interesting this makes me think @WheeloRatings who else seems to have an outside influence on when they are playing or not playing, in recent history, would do it myself but am clueless.

  On 06/04/2024 at 22:07, DEE fence said:

Interesting this makes me think @WheeloRatings who else seems to have an outside influence on when they are playing or not playing, in recent history, would do it myself but am clueless.

Recent social media posts indicate we are 7-0 when Woey Jr has been named. Given that goes back to his debut mid last year I'd imagine we're about even on win/loss when he hasn't been named.

Thought I heard from a reporter during the game likely to stay than go, but think he was offering his opinion more than reporting it as a source. Petty was niggling lots with Crows players, didn't look like he would want to play for them the way he going 😂 

"Since round 10 last year" is picking an artificial point to skew the stats.

  On 06/04/2024 at 22:01, Jeremy said:

why pick out round 10 last year as the starting point?

and has anyone checked if this is correct. I thought he played in losses after Rd 10

  On 06/04/2024 at 22:48, BDA said:

why pick out round 10 last year as the starting point?

and has anyone checked if this is correct. I thought he played in losses after Rd 10

just checked the AFL website. He played in the Rd 15 and 16 losses v Geelong and GWS respectively.

  On 02/04/2024 at 00:17, Young Angus said:

Would love to keep Petty I hope he stays, can't wait for Jeffo to get up to speed after seeing him on the weekend.  Marking awesome...kicking not so much but just needs to practice.  Looked very competitive and hungry, not sure if that is out of the ordinary for him because I don't watch much VFL but Jeffo looked pretty good and exciting.  

Jefferson was just ok and nothing more - I made the effort to actually watch that game on replay as I’d read the comments in the match day thread about him performing well

His direct opponent was a very raw defender who frankly looks like he might struggle to make it 

Jefferson’s kicking for goal was bordering on embarrassing and he constantly kept running too close to the man on the mark (such a basic and fundamental mistake). I saw little from him in terms of intensity and physicality to give me any more than a glimmer of hope. For me he still sits in the category of talented junior that performed well at times against kids but may never transition to an AFL player

We have seen this type of player before - Weed and Schache two recent examples on our list - hopefully I’m wrong but I do have serious doubts that he has what it takes 

Hope your wrong Sydee the club have a bit more confidence and have contracted him through to ‘26 to fully develop.

  On 26/03/2024 at 20:35, Demonland said:

HE’S IN NO HARRY

Adelaide will launch a full-on assault to lure Harrison Petty back to South Australia once more, but don’t be surprised if he stays at Melbourne to chase a second premiership.

It has been reported in Adelaide that the Crows expect him to be in their colours next season after offering him a five-year $4 million deal that was heavily front-ended.

Petty was keen to go home when he saw that he could be part of the Shane McAdam trade.

Adelaide will hope Petty’s status as an unrestricted free agent in 2025 means the Demons might trade him as a pre-agent this year rather than accept a mid-teens free agency compensation pick next year.

So expect them to throw a considerable trade package at the Demons to turn their heads, with Demons great Garry Lyon suggesting on Friday only a Riley Thilthorpe swap would be acceptable.

But even six months on much has changed for Petty, who has made clear he is totally committed to the Demons and intent on focusing on their flag campaign.

When the Demons aborted that trade it was a very different climate at Melbourne as Clayton Oliver’s health battles continued.

The Demons got around Petty through captain Max Gawn and coach Simon Goodwin, who have both remained in constant touch with their swingman.

Expect Port Adelaide to have some interest in Petty’s future given Charlie Dixon is getting towards the end.

So while Petty is in no mood to consider a contract extension just yet, he is a long way from out the door at year’s end.

Of course he hasn't signed, why would he when clubs will up their offers by year end and Port can enter the market. We will have gus off the books and tmac or BBB off the books or on very small contacts in my view ... money won't be an issue ... we will offer a long term deal on a bit less and he will stay

Imagine wanting to go to Adelaide. 

  On 06/04/2024 at 23:49, Ethan Tremblay said:

Imagine wanting to go to Adelaide. 

Can't 

  On 06/04/2024 at 22:51, BDA said:

just checked the AFL website. He played in the Rd 15 and 16 losses v Geelong and GWS respectively.

Yeh I wonder if they mean when he plays forward? 
 

He’s clearly played more than 7 games since R10 2023.

  On 06/04/2024 at 23:28, DeeZone said:

Hope your wrong Sydee the club have a bit more confidence and have contracted him through to ‘26 to fully develop.

I hope I’m wrong too but the club has also shown faith in players before that just haven’t made it. Its not an easy competition to break into and be successful and the position he has been recruited for is not an easy one 

Let’s all hope he continues to improve and evolves more in the JUH style than those the other guys I’ve mentioned. JUH can mark the ball and is learning to compete physically - his kicking is still a bit hit and miss but he clearly has a lot of upside. He is the type of player that I think the club believes Jefferson could be - fingers crossed 🤞 

  On 06/04/2024 at 23:22, Sydee said:

Jefferson was just ok and nothing more - I made the effort to actually watch that game on replay as I’d read the comments in the match day thread about him performing well

His direct opponent was a very raw defender who frankly looks like he might struggle to make it 

Jefferson’s kicking for goal was bordering on embarrassing and he constantly kept running too close to the man on the mark (such a basic and fundamental mistake). I saw little from him in terms of intensity and physicality to give me any more than a glimmer of hope. For me he still sits in the category of talented junior that performed well at times against kids but may never transition to an AFL player

We have seen this type of player before - Weed and Schache two recent examples on our list - hopefully I’m wrong but I do have serious doubts that he has what it takes 

That is the worst kicking for goal I have seen from him, he is usually a pretty good kick for goal.

I think he will be in our team next year.

  On 06/04/2024 at 23:22, Sydee said:

Jefferson was just ok and nothing more - I made the effort to actually watch that game on replay as I’d read the comments in the match day thread about him performing well

His direct opponent was a very raw defender who frankly looks like he might struggle to make it 

Jefferson’s kicking for goal was bordering on embarrassing and he constantly kept running too close to the man on the mark (such a basic and fundamental mistake). I saw little from him in terms of intensity and physicality to give me any more than a glimmer of hope. For me he still sits in the category of talented junior that performed well at times against kids but may never transition to an AFL player

We have seen this type of player before - Weed and Schache two recent examples on our list - hopefully I’m wrong but I do have serious doubts that he has what it takes 

The above covers my thoughts Sydee. He would need to make big gains to be an AFL level talent.