1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

[censored] off Howe. You feel sorry for that thug??? Oh my god. You’re a bigger piece of [censored] than I thought you were. How about feeling sorry for Gus? What a despicable person you are. 

I told you he has become an anti Melbourne arseh-le.

Howe is one of my least liked players now.

Any potential appeal aside, if we don’t come out and steamroll the Blues (on the scoreboard, of course, because we won’t get any favours at the tribunal) on Friday so we can then have a chance to play the Pies in the GF then we’ll never have enough motivation because even last year’s straight sets exit wasn’t enough to come out breathing fire on Thursday. 

We have to do this. Only way we get any justice is we make it to the GF and smash the pies. And Gus is there, holding up the cup, and grinning from ear to ear, right at the Collingwood army. 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

You need to smother Cripps ribs, as they are broken. He is playing with broken ribs.

Don’t say that. The purity police will say it’s not nice 🙄

I suspect we've all watched a lot of football over the years. With that people have seen a lot of smothers executed. Lets say on average there has been say 5 smothers a game. Thats over 1000 smothers in a football year.

Has anyone ever in their life of watching football seen an attempted smother end with a bloke knocked unconscious for 2 minutes. Serious question. I've seen some great goal saving smothers. Ones where the smotherer has got kicked or hit with the footy and everyone refers to the players bravery. Sometimes the kicker gets a sore foot or corky as their kicking action gets impeded. Ones where the player gets a fingertip to the ball and turns a goal into a point.

Just a couple of points here. Brayden did none of these. He didn't touch the ball. But he didn't miss Brayshaw. Plan B was executed perfectly. People have mimicked what Brayden said on the night that it was a "football act". But in all my hours of watching football I've never seen this before. 

Conclusion. This wasn't a "football act". It was thuggery. Pure and simple. 

The worst part is next week when Collingwood take to the field he, Maynard, will get clapped and cheered every time he goes near the ball. For the thuggery he commited. 

Terrible AFL, I mean what an outcome.

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

If you are playing the ball, a duty of care to those around you is now unnecessary. The defense of in the motion of a "football act" has a precedence. As Number 4 said, he did not take a collision with Gus into account.

Will give Viney, Sparrow and other inside bulls a licence to not worry about the pain they inflict.

That’s what is bizarre

It was barely mentioned at all?

What’s up with that? Are they seeking to remove duty of care? 

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

Will give Viney, Sparrow and other inside bulls a licence to not worry about the pain they inflict.

As long as they jump in the air first feigning a smother / spoil Kev.... then yes

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

In good news, Carlton are trying to get Jack Martin down to 1 week rather than cleared altogether.

A sensible approach.

Current class action against AFL now has exhibit A.

9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Each to their own.

Id run through the bastards.

Im not sure you understand this game, what is involved...the tactics used, the instructions  given.

Are you naive enough to think a ridiculous event that took out a prima-player ...just happened  ??

You think Cox jumping into Max is just...footy-stuff ( well actually it is..ironically  ).

Its a a very physical game.. its not for the faint hearted.  It can get very argy bargy... but even with all that...there's a line.

They crossed it   Quite frankly [censored] them.

 

What point do you think you’re making? 

 

JVR is now fair game given it’s a:

‘very physical game, not for the faint hearted. It can get very argy bargy, even with all that, there’s a line. They crossed it.’

 

JVR got suspended for an act outside of the game, so he literally crossed a line of the rules. 
 

Before you reply with ‘well Maynard crossed the line and he DIDNT get suspended!’ Well I agree with you! If should have gotten suspended!

That has nothing to do with my point of not reacting emotionally and wishing injury to other players in the team that didn’t do the act. 
 

It’s not hard to understand the hypocrisy of that response if you stop, and think, for 2 seconds. 

That is a terrible decision

He intended no harm,  but he did not exercise due care. He should have known that jumping at a player running straight at him was very likely to result in that players serious injury. 

And he didn’t even smother the ball!

The AFL has to appeal. It has to. If it wants to help its own defence against not doing enough to protect players from head injury, it must fight this. It must fight for the next payer running selflessly towards goal in the spirit of the game, as Brayshaw was. 

its not about whether it was a ‘dog act’ or a deliberate intent to harm, … it wasn’t. It’s about was it a tackle or smother that reasonably considered the well being of the other player. It was an excessively high risk move that could never have ended safely for Brayshaw 

I am very upset about this decision. It shows the decision makers are in a different world, a different time.  Where is the AFL players association? 

 

5 minutes ago, kev martin said:

If you are playing the ball, a duty of care to those around you is now unnecessary. The defense of in the motion of a "football act" has a precedence. As Number 4 said, he did not take a collision with Gus into account.

Will give Viney, Sparrow and other inside bulls a licence to not worry about the pain they inflict.

Sad day for CTE outcomes.

The conflict here is breathtaking. If you choose to bump out or tackle and get someone in the head you're suspended. But somehow spoiling is now a free shot at an opposition player. 

 

Only the corrupt AFL could come up with this bastard of an interpretation

This farce is proof that it is swooping season for magpies and that they really are a protected species.

Reckon we can slip this past the censors for the banner? Enough plausible deniability? Yeah, probably not.

CLAYTON’S JUSTICE

DEMON REVENGE

HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE

THE WRATH OF FRIENDS

And yes, channelling white hot anger into poetry is very stereotypical MFC.

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Let’s see if Laura Kane has the balls to put this boys club farce of a league in its place. 

Yep, the AFL have to appeal and if we believe that Michael Christian was overuled by Gil, Laura & Dillon, then they have to see things through

Otherwise, it will just look like a load of bs.  And my faith will be reversed especially in the case of Dillon & Laura (I don't have any time for the Commission & Gil)

O'Farrell (Blues) brings up Jacob van Rooyen's bump of Dan McStay, which was graded medium impact rather than high as in Martin's case.

 

"It's not possible to understand why when you look at the footage."

The very last thing we need to do on Friday is be overly emotionally charged.  Just play the ball hard and not get jumped because we are thinking about things that can't change. Looking at the players reaction last Thursday night - attending to Brayshaw, rolling him into the recovery position, it's no wonder we got jumped.  At that point it was 2 goals to one.  We lost ourselves for the rest of that quarter and that was the game.  Total focus for every second of the game will get us the result.

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

What ties does he have with him? 

Played juniors together and were mates 

If we don’t happen to get through to the GF and win it , it is as simple as ABC

(Anyone But Collingwood)

 

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by Wodjathefirst
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On 9/8/2023 at 12:03 AM, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I was annoyed by our response, cudos to Viney for actually having a crack but no one else was really doing anything

Yeah I agree, in the words of the great Ron Barassi "Bloody Weak as [censored] !"

Whole team should have smashed him, for the entire game! 

If we should meet them in the GF, I expect the Dees to be breathing fire!

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

In good news, Carlton are trying to get Jack Martin down to 1 week rather than cleared altogether.

Carlton is a shrewd club who would be incensed at being the second case of the  night .The club knows that there case is show trial number 2 only in this case the Tribunal will be out to slot them to save face over Maynard .Good strategy to limit the argument to reduced penalty.

6 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

As long as they jump in the air first feigning a smother / spoil Kev.... then yes

I interpret it as, solely attacking the ball (give no consciousness to anything else). Do that and collateral all over the place, and no consequences to self.

18 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

They’re not appealing 

I’d say they are very unappealing, in fact I would call them a disgrace and head high hits are now sanctioned.👎👎

Makes my blood boil. 
Every inch of me wants us to meet them in the grand final and win or lose… Viney just goes bang 

47 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

What?????

Absolutely he does. Have had a bit to do with him 

24 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I've disagreed with you on many fronts @Superunknown but i reckon I'm done after this year also.

Better things to spend my $550 a year reserved seating membership on than watching absolutely thuggery in front of my eyes.

Soccer Australia and their hierarchy must be rubbing their hands with glee the amount of young kids that will be heading towards the world game via their parents after this decision.

Hamish Brayshaw hit the nail right on the head the AFL want Collingwood in the GF with Carlton.

This is only the first domino to fall, Martin will get off with a fine also.

 

 

Agree with you about spending $550 to watch a frustrating game with [censored] “rules” and terrible umpiring decisions.Run by an incompetent mob - the AFL. An organisation that has sold out to Channel 7 who decide the fixturing .Why is our game on Friday night at such a late hour - instead of 2.15 on Saturday? And then there are the tv commentators- l turn the volume off. I will shut up now.