On 31/08/2023 at 08:11, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I think he signed on with GC as he's originally from that area. He was probably offered decent coin to move and from memory I think Dimma was disappointed to lose him at that time. Clearly not in his plans now though. 

Yeah back to his home state, plus cash, plus opportunity to play regularly that he was getting at the Suns.

I’m not sure the Suns or Hardwick would want him to go. He’s down the pecking order as a key forward but as a forward/ruck he’d be in line to take back over for Casboult.

But across the competition you’ll see guys on big money playing in the reserves sent to new homes where they can. 

  On 31/08/2023 at 04:26, binman said:

I agree he is super talented. He is a natural forward who as you suggest is a good second ruck option.  And that is exactly the sort of player we need.

But i reckon his lack of intensity rules him out from any team goody coaches.

No coincidence he's keen to leave the Suns.

I suspect he left the Tigers because Hardwick is like Goody in that he values intensity and attack on the ball over all else. And who is coaching the Suns next year? Hardwick. 

 

Don’t be fooled by his athleticism.  The bloke is C grader at best and terribly inconsistent.  I’d rather use a pick and develop them 

  On 31/08/2023 at 07:39, Maldonboy38 said:

If a coach could get Chol to release some inner aggression and play more physically, he could be anything. His skills are really good and he can kick straight. But like Binman said above, Hardwick and Goodwin favour intense, contested ball players so I can't see us being interested in him. 

The same was said about Weed.   Players can’t be taught to be aggressive, they either have it or don’t.   Chol definitely doesn’t.

  On 31/08/2023 at 03:49, SPC said:

More physically gifted, but has little intensity or physicality compare to Jack. 

Yeah I think you’re right. To me Chol looks like a very gifted athlete playing AFL rather than a footy player. Silvagni is a mid-tier player with limited abilities, tries his heart out, but could fit into a team as a role player IMO. 
 

 

  On 31/08/2023 at 07:05, Demonsterative said:

Chol fills a need and improves our list. 44 goals in 2022. I don’t mind it. 

FFS NOOOO

  On 31/08/2023 at 03:29, adonski said:

Hes actually quite talented and is one of the few rucks who can genuinely play fwd

But he plays with this almost care free nature where he looks like he lacks intensity and any form of urgency 

I guess Goody and JT would need to feel that his apparent casual approach is because he isn’t being encouraged to make the most of his natural talent, or if he is actually timid and or lazy. 

  On 31/08/2023 at 07:41, Engorged Onion said:

Some would say he looks laconic @Grapeviney? No?

 

… or even lackadaisical?

  On 31/08/2023 at 12:50, monoccular said:

I guess Goody and JT would need to feel that his apparent casual approach is because he isn’t being encouraged to make the most of his natural talent, or if he is actually timid and or lazy. 

… or even lackadaisical?

44 goals in 2022 does not equate to timid or lazy results. That stat is a very good outcome.

I’m not sold, but I don’t see many other options to play a role Gawn and Grundy could not produce as a fwd/ruck option. 

  On 31/08/2023 at 11:34, picket fence said:

FFS NOOOO

If it’s a ‘Noooooo’ PF, who on the MFC list or on another clubs list, who ‘IS’ gettable, can fill a gap on our list? Assuming the reports Grundy is gawn, and that combo was a massive fail! 
 

 

 

  On 31/08/2023 at 14:23, Demonsterative said:

44 goals in 2022 does not equate to timid or lazy results. That stat is a very good outcome.

I’m not sold, but I don’t see many other options to play a role Gawn and Grundy could not produce as a fwd/ruck option. 

I think it’s just proof that one year up at the Gold Coast Suns is enough to want to get the hell out of there for some players. 

  On 31/08/2023 at 07:15, Pulp Fritschon said:

Think he can play. Always looks likely when I watch him. Surprised to see how little he played at the GC this year.

Certainly fills a big need. 

Worth a try - our whole coaching/performance management team(s) have enough nouse to turn him into a competitive and further skilled asset and forward presence. Probably too lean for the backline.

  On 31/08/2023 at 05:36, John Demonic said:

2 years at 500k remaining, when he did not get any senior games last year, is a hell of a lot different to 1 year at 500k and numerous senior games where he played very well.

 

Will be at least 3 clubs looking at him to take in that year and smooth it out with two more on less coin. If it's not us doing the same.

He might be a handy player, but GC won’t want to absorb any of that salary. The coin puts an end to any discussion IMO.

Schache is our place holder depth tall who is soft/skilled. Any other trades for tall forward/rucks need to make us immediately better and go straight into the 22.

If we're recruiting for depth, I would prefer a much less skilled work horse Andrew Phillips/Cam Pederson type over a skilled soft player. Would probably be cheaper too. 

I mentioned him a few weeks back after watching him come on as a sub and have an impact. Think it’s sort of trade that could suit all parties. We get a key forward/Ruck that should have bigger impact than Shack or Weid to cover while Jefferson develops. Suns get him off their list as they have Walters and at least two other academy players coming in and he gets to join the premiers. 

He is a perfect back up if cheap,  but i don't think his contract would be that cheap.
And the reason he wants to leave is because he want's to be a B22 player.  I'm not sure he would make our Starting 22, there is a forward spot up for grabs.

He just screams to me as a player that needs to have an AFL player lifestyle at the club and away from the club, needs to switch on a bit and optimise his potential.  Could our program unlock that?  

Could fill a spot until Jefferson is ready.

  On 04/09/2023 at 21:33, Travy14 said:

He is a perfect back up if cheap,  but i don't think his contract would be that cheap.
And the reason he wants to leave is because he want's to be a B22 player.  I'm not sure he would make our Starting 22, there is a forward spot up for grabs.

He just screams to me as a player that needs to have an AFL player lifestyle at the club and away from the club, needs to switch on a bit and optimise his potential.  Could our program unlock that?  

Could fill a spot until Jefferson is ready.

Also wants to get away from a Coach who previously cleared him.

  On 04/09/2023 at 22:06, Redleg said:

Also wants to get away from a Coach who previously cleared him.

Yeh true, to be fair once Lynch joined rich he was never getting a game.
Handy to have on the list, can play forward and ruck for the right price id like him. 

Let's see how big Tommy Mac goes in the next month holding down the fort, while Jacob Van Tap-Artist rucks. Maybe Chol will be surplus to needs by then, with Pettys return next year imminent and TMAC looking ready to go around again to make it 3 flags as a KPF and go down as a Great of the Game 

Things can change fast.

Edited September 4, 20231 yr by John Demonic

If we can get him cheap than why not?

He iss a better 2nd ruck option than Van Rooyen which gives Van Rooyen more time forward 

  On 01/09/2023 at 01:52, MrFreeze said:

Schache is our place holder depth tall who is soft/skilled. Any other trades for tall forward/rucks need to make us immediately better and go straight into the 22.

If we're recruiting for depth, I would prefer a much less skilled work horse Andrew Phillips/Cam Pederson type over a skilled soft player. Would probably be cheaper too. 

Damn, how good would it be to have a Cam Pedersen type on our list right now to call up. Inconsistent but a go-er.

 

  On 04/09/2023 at 22:16, John Demonic said:

Let's see how big Tommy Mac goes in the next month holding down the fort, while Jacob Van Tap-Artist rucks. Maybe Chol will be surplus to needs by then, with Pettys return next year imminent and TMAC looking ready to go around again to make it 3 flags as a KPF and go down as a Great of the Game 

Things can change fast.

Can't they...

😬

 

(Someone was going to, John; sorry...)

  On 31/08/2023 at 14:44, McQueen said:

I think it’s just proof that one year up at the Gold Coast Suns is enough to want to get the hell out of there for some players. 

Or the new Coach is the one who dumped you a year earlier and wouldn't play you.

  On 21/09/2023 at 05:43, Demonland said:

 

Hawks letting Grainger_ Barass go and now Koschitzke want out.

Didn't take the Tigers long to fill the Reiwoldt spot.

Edited September 21, 20231 yr by Redleg

  On 21/09/2023 at 05:53, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Can't they...

😬

 

(Someone was going to, John; sorry...)

I confess. I am guilty of believing in our players and having a rose tint on my spectacles!

Edited September 21, 20231 yr by John Demonic

Koschitzke really doesn’t look any better or worse than Schache

Tigs are welcome to him