COACHES VOTES: Rd 06 2023

[Demonland 65,435]

Votes

Player (Club)

9 Tim Taranto (RICH)

6 Jack Viney (MELB)

4 Michael Hibberd (MELB)

3 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)

3 Max Gawn (MELB)

2 Clayton Oliver (MELB)

2 Jayden Short (RICH)

1 Christian Petracca (MELB)

 

Leaderboard

Votes	Player	Club
45	Nick Daicos	COLL
33	Marcus Bontempelli	WB
33	Jeremy Cameron	GEEL
28	Jack Sinclair	STK
26	Jordan De Goey	COLL
24	Patrick Dangerfield	GEEL
24	Chad Warner	SYD
24	Callum Wilkie	STK
23	Tim Kelly	WCE
23	Christian Petracca	MELB
22	Clayton Oliver	MELB
21	Luke Davies-Uniacke	NMFC
21	Jordan Dawson	ADEL
20	Charlie Cameron	BL
20	Zach Merrett	ESS
20	Caleb Serong	FRE
19	Toby Greene	GWS
19	Rory Laird	ADEL
19	Darcy Parish	ESS
18	Charlie Curnow	CARL
18	Mason Redman	ESS

[Jaded No More 58,109]

Taranto 9 votes? Wow. 

 

Nick Daicos is a freak tho. 

[Demonland 65,435]

Just now, Jaded No More said:

Taranto 9 votes? Wow. 

 

Nick Daicos is a freak tho. 

Taranto is the least damaging player in the AFL. I did not even know he was playing.

[In Harmes Way 7,541]

This is how I read the issuing of those votes. Interesting, the coaches are generally a bit closer together than this. The 3 and 2 votes are interchangeable.

	Hardwick	Goodwin
9 Tim Taranto (RICH)	5	4
6 Jack Viney (MELB)	1	5
4 Michael Hibberd (MELB)	4
3 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)	3
3 Max Gawn (MELB)		3
2 Clayton Oliver (MELB)		2
2 Jayden Short (RICH)	2
1 Christian Petracca (MELB)		1

Edited April 26, 2023 by In Harmes Way

[Demonland 65,435]

4 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

This is how I read the issuing of those votes. Interesting, the coaches are generally a bit closer together than this.

	Hardwick	Goodwin
9 Tim Taranto (RICH)	5	4
6 Jack Viney (MELB)	1	5
4 Michael Hibberd (MELB)	4
3 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)	3
3 Max Gawn (MELB)		3
2 Clayton Oliver (MELB)		2
2 Jayden Short (RICH)	2
1 Christian Petracca (MELB)		1

This is correct because Hardwick 10000% gave Hibberd the 4 because of the job he did on Cumberland when moved onto him.

Love how Hardwick hates us. You'd think they won by 10 goals and he only gave Hibberd 4 votes to stick it up Cumberland for his poor effort after 1/4 time.

Edit: Perhaps Hardwick gave Oliver the 2 and Goody gave Short 2. Goody more likely to give short 2.

[In Harmes Way 7,541]

37 minutes ago, Demonland said:

This is correct because Hardwick 10000% gave Hibberd the 4 because of the job he did on Cumberland when moved onto him.

Love how Hardwick hates us. You'd think they won by 10 goals and he only gave Hibberd 4 votes to stick it up Cumberland for his poor effort after 1/4 time.

Edit: Perhaps Hardwick gave Oliver the 2 and Goody gave Short 2. Goody more likely to give short 2.

It’s certain, at least to me, that Goodwin gave Viney 5 and Hardwick gave Taranto 5. Therefore, Hardwick must have given Viney 1 vote and Hibbo 4.

[Gawndy the Great 7,464]

Taranto carved  us up in stoppages and got the ball to the outside on several occasions - particularly in the 1st half. He always plays well against us for some reason.

Its always a rule-of-thumb that you never give the 5 votes to a player in the losing team and how Hardwick didnt give JV more than 1 vote is mind boggling. 

Riewoldt & Short for 3 and 2 votes is also pretty insulting. in the end its the 4 points that matters

[Jaded No More 58,109]

8 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Taranto carved  us up in stoppages and got the ball to the outside on several occasions - particularly in the 1st half. He always plays well against us for some reason.

Its always a rule-of-thumb that you never give the 5 votes to a player in the losing team and how Hardwick didnt give JV more than 1 vote is mind boggling. 

Riewoldt & Short for 3 and 2 votes is also pretty insulting. in the end its the 4 points that matters

Hardwick is a very bitter man. He enjoys a whinge too.

Can give him players all the votes in the world. They're still bottom 4.

[Demon17 4,594]

18 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Hardwick is a very bitter man. He enjoys a whinge too.

Can give him players all the votes in the world. They're still bottom 4.

I lost confidence in this award when Fagan gamed the voting last year in final round to get Neale over the line. Happy for a dees player to win it but zero sleep lost now for me.

4 points. Losers please themselves.

Will be fascinating to watch Daicos in real life in june.

[deanox 8,633]

It's almost like Hardwick doesn't realise we kicked 10 of the last 13 goals!

 

Jokes aside though, if those votes are correctly assigned (ie votes to their caster), then Hardwick felt that poor performance and effort by his players in the second half lost the game, rather than strong performance by the Melbourne players. i.e. he has given no credit to Melbourne, and given votes to his players who he thought played well, despite their teammates efforts.

Edited April 26, 2023 by deanox

[Monbon 1,516]

8 minutes ago, deanox said:

It's almost like Hardwick doesn't realise we kicked 10 of the last 13 goals!

 

Jokes aside though, if those votes are correctly assigned (ie votes to their caster), then Hardwick felt that poor performance and effort by his players in the second half lost the game, rather than strong performance by the Melbourne players. i.e. he has given no credit to Melbourne, and given votes to his players who he thought played well, despite their teammates efforts.

Me thinks that Hardwick's days as a successful coach are numbered. I have hated him since the 2000 Grand Final when he and Wallis assaulted Brad Green, a nineteen year old. Had that happened outside a football field both would have been jailed.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Monbon

[buck_nekkid 5,496]

Hardwick is a knorb. He really see the game like that?  Riewoldt 3 votes.  Tarantula 5?  WTF????  Any real observer would scoff at those votes.

[spirit of norm smith 12,974]

1 hour ago, In Harmes Way said:

This is how I read the issuing of those votes. Interesting, the coaches are generally a bit closer together than this. The 3 and 2 votes are interchangeable.

	Hardwick	Goodwin
9 Tim Taranto (RICH)	5	4
6 Jack Viney (MELB)	1	5
4 Michael Hibberd (MELB)	4
3 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)	3
3 Max Gawn (MELB)		3
2 Clayton Oliver (MELB)		2
2 Jayden Short (RICH)	2
1 Christian Petracca (MELB)		1

Wtf. So presumably Hardwick gave Viney 1 vote. He’s a tool. What is this system ? 
 

my coaches votes would have been 

5 Viney 

4 Gawn

3 Taranto

2 Petracca

1 Short

[Gawndy the Great 7,464]

27 minutes ago, deanox said:

It's almost like Hardwick doesn't realise we kicked 10 of the last 13 goals!

 

Jokes aside though, if those votes are correctly assigned (ie votes to their caster), then Hardwick felt that poor performance and effort by his players in the second half lost the game, rather than strong performance by the Melbourne players. i.e. he has given no credit to Melbourne, and given votes to his players who he thought played well, despite their teammates efforts.

Yeah i don't think he gave any credit to Melbourne in his pressor, which is quite disrespectful. Its ok to say what they didn't do well and how they lost the game, but every time we lose, Goody will always acknowledge that the other team was better. 

I don't really watch opposition pressers so not sure what is the norm across the comp. 

[The heart beats true 16,234]

5 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I don't really watch opposition pressers so not sure what is the norm across the comp. 

Oddly the norm across the comp is eerily similar to regular life - don’t act like a smug, bitter tool.

[Lord Travis 10,178]

34 minutes ago, deanox said:

Jokes aside though, if those votes are correctly assigned (ie votes to their caster), then Hardwick felt that poor performance and effort by his players in the second half lost the game, rather than strong performance by the Melbourne players. i.e. he has given no credit to Melbourne, and given votes to his players who he thought played well, despite their teammates efforts.

I hate Hardwick, but he’s not exactly wrong if he thought that. Tigers kicked 0 goals 5 points in the final quarter. Our accuracy in front of goal, and their inaccuracy in front of goal, was the deciding factor in the match. They generated more inside 50s, more shots at goal and had better pressure than us with more tackles and twice as many tackles inside 50. This was not a strong win by us, so the votes being split amongst players from both teams is fair.

We should be thankful we got the win after a poor showing from our players. Our form the last few weeks has been worrying. Still a long way to go in the season and thankfully we have 3 matches against the other bottom four teams now. After this easy patch though, we will have beat up on the bottom six and lost to all top 8 teams we’ve played so far. Let’s hope we can turn our form around come finals time.

[Demon Dynasty 15,554]

Jack out in the cold.  No Demon in sight yet 4 GC players & Cerra from what was a very average losing team.  I watched the Cats game and didn't think Danger's game was worthy of a berth...

[Tarax Club 2,996]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Hardwick is a very bitter man. He enjoys a whinge too.

Maybe he just needs to prioritise the Paddington bear special Ox edition release. Man who desperately needs a cuddle.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Tarax Club
Tiggers got done by Whinnie da Pooh

[Demonland 65,435]

28 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Jack out in the cold.  No Demon in sight yet 4 GC players & Cerra from what was a very average losing team.  I watched the Cats game and didn't think Danger's game was worthy of a berth...

The AFL produce a video clip each week of the Top 10 things from the round. We are shafted almost every week. Often our game won't even crack a mention when some poxy game between the suns and kangaroos will cop two mentions in the Top 10. Sometimes, like this week, sometimes our losing opposition does gets a mentions, like Dusty's last quarter goal which was nice but it was at a time when the game was lost and tired legs helped his goal. No mention of Rooey's match winning last quarter.

 

[rjay 23,922]

7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

We are shafted almost every week. Often our game won't even crack a mention when some poxy game between the suns and kangaroos will cop two mentions in the Top 10

I was waiting for the...

...but this week.

Alas, no...we miss again.

I guess we will have to wait for Goody and Max to lift the cup.

[Tarax Club 2,996]

Happy with the four premiership points the rest is just fluff.

[radar 1,852]

Colemans, Brownlow, MCLellands, AA etc etc - the only thing I care about is Max holding another Cup

[Demon Dynasty 15,554]

37 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The AFL produce a video clip each week of the Top 10 things from the round. We are shafted almost every week. Often our game won't even crack a mention when some poxy game between the suns and kangaroos will cop two mentions in the Top 10. Sometimes, like this week, sometimes our losing opposition does gets a mentions, like Dusty's last quarter goal which was nice but it was at a time when the game was lost and tired legs helped his goal. No mention of Rooey's match winning last quarter.

 

In a normal H&A round i usually don't bother with all this but given we won on the big stage in front of a massive crowd you would think there'd be a small snippet.

26 minutes ago, Tarax Club said:

Happy with the four premiership points the rest is just fluff.

Sound advice from the wise

[WheeloRatings 923]

Here are the season tallies for all Melbourne players:

23 Christian Petracca
22 Clayton Oliver
12 Brodie Grundy
11 Jake Lever
9 Kysaiah Pickett
8 Max Gawn
6 Ed Langdon
6 Jack Viney
4 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom McDonald
1 Kade Chandler
1 Lachie Hunter

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats.html