Guest Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Stiff Arm said: Let it go. Weid plays for another club now. We can all move on Thank you. 🙏 You saved me from posting this sentiment. Which is great since I’m afraid I wouldn’t have put it as diplomatically as you have. Quote
praha 11,267 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 20 hours ago, Deeoldfart said: AFL site reporting that BBB was subbed out with a back complaint. All those years carrying North finally catching up. 1 5 1 Quote
demonzz 140 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 23 hours ago, smiFFy said: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Clarry Oliver is going to be the best Melbourne player to ever play the game. Still think Robbie Flower has him ( ATM )!! 1 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said: we need to bring in a brother rule. 1 Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 7 hours ago, MoeSyzlak said: This is a significant structural change so I’m comparing output year on year due to see where we are improving vs previous set up. If you don’t like stats, discussion and analysis then why be on a footy forum? Picking one game as a valid sample size? Computer says no Your knowledge of balanced stat comparison is a lot worse than your ability to hide a bit of Weid bashing 2 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Action Jackson said: Will be interesting. I've got to say I'm impressed with Goody's ability to change things up. My one knock on him over the last 2 years was his inability to be flexible, but perhaps his coaching is ever evolving. I'm going to counter by suggesting that Goodwin has always been innovative and flexible, but he is also an astute judge of whether the flexibility would work. It's possible that the type of flexibility punters were calling for would have caused worse results! The times when he was called "inflexible" have been when we've had key players injured or out of form and he was inflexible for "not bringing in players players from Casey". Maybe he made judgements that an injured Gawn is a better option than a bball rookie, or an out of form TMac was more likely to find form than a first year undersized kid. Other times he's been called inflexible have been when he sticks with a game plan the players have learnt for 3 years, hoping that the work with pay off, instead of throwing it out and hoping they'll catch on to something new in a single week. What some people call inflexible or stubborn, others might call pragmatic, realistic and risk based. In a game of percentages at the elite level, Hail Mary's rarely pay off 5 1 3 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Caro with the "Gee they're so reliant on May aren't they?" followed up with "Tom McDonald didn't play?" Maybe watch the games of footy that are played on the weekend if you're going to comment on them. 1 1 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, John Demonic said: Caro with the "Gee they're so reliant on May aren't they?" followed up with "Tom McDonald didn't play?" Maybe watch the games of footy that are played on the weekend if you're going to comment on them. Caro is not a football commentator. She is a gossip columnist whose speciality is football clubs. 9 1 Quote
The Chief 697 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Just adding to the comments on Chandler’s game, doubt it was shown on the TV coverage, but for his goal around the middle of the third quarter, he was in the backline when we gained possession and then he sprinted from half back down the Warne Stand side to half forward Punt Rd end but his lead got ignored, so he continued to sprint to the half forward spot on the Members side to take that mark resulting in his goal. Tremendous effort, got the reward and if he keeps doing those sort of things, he’ll be getting plenty of games this year. 14 1 1 Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Caro is not a football commentator. She is a gossip columnist whose speciality is football clubs. Pretty good at it tho… 2 Quote
binman 44,851 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, deanox said: I'm going to counter by suggesting that Goodwin has always been innovative and flexible, but he is also an astute judge of whether the flexibility would work. It's possible that the type of flexibility punters were calling for would have caused worse results! The times when he was called "inflexible" have been when we've had key players injured or out of form and he was inflexible for "not bringing in players players from Casey". Maybe he made judgements that an injured Gawn is a better option than a bball rookie, or an out of form TMac was more likely to find form than a first year undersized kid. Other times he's been called inflexible have been when he sticks with a game plan the players have learnt for 3 years, hoping that the work with pay off, instead of throwing it out and hoping they'll catch on to something new in a single week. What some people call inflexible or stubborn, others might call pragmatic, realistic and risk based. In a game of percentages at the elite level, Hail Mary's rarely pay off Could not agree more deanox. I can't believe how many DL posters have bought into the false narrtiave that goody is 'stubborn', not innovative and is inflexible. Don't even get me started on Goody has his favorites, or (insert player here) must have incrinimating photos palaver (yes i know that is supposed to be a joke - but it is a joke that aims to make a particular point) There are are number of examples of his innvation and flexibilty, inlcuding, but not limited to: his innovative diamond structure in 2017 to the ultra fast, wave running ball movement in 2018 (not unlike everyobe scurrent darlngs, the pies) His use of players running off the half back at cetre bounces in 2018 The shifytin 2019 to developing a cutting edge zone defence thta has become the foundation of our game (he persisted with this in the face of his critics and the losses we endured that year) His embrace of the Burgess philosophy to preparation and the reulting focus on ultra fitness (which, for exmaple the Cats openly said they copied last year) The way we control momentum - our ability to score multiple goals in a short space of time is clealry not a happy accident; as they like to say in the dstates, it is a feature not a bug (irds worh noting that this ability to score quickly can be connected back to our scoring power in 2018 His use of two ruckman - remmber the falck he copped for recriting pruess? Coaching from the bench His selction of Bowey in 2021 Chasing and gettng Grunby The tweaks to our game plan this season I could go on, but you gte the drift 8 2 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said: Swans had a few big boys out of their side and also they could have thrown Reid in to CHF and we could have wilted a bit, so things in perspective and good win nonetheless. Hickey and Reid. Reid on average no better than Amartey or McDonald. 4 hours ago, Fat Tony said: Does anyone know the Expected Score yesterday? It always feels great when we kick straight but there is always an element of luck. We had 33 shots from 60 inside 50s compared to Sydney 29 shots from 52 inside 50s. 2 Quote
In Harmes Way 7,871 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, deanox said: I'm going to counter by suggesting that Goodwin has always been innovative and flexible, but he is also an astute judge of whether the flexibility would work. It's possible that the type of flexibility punters were calling for would have caused worse results! The times when he was called "inflexible" have been when we've had key players injured or out of form and he was inflexible for "not bringing in players players from Casey". Maybe he made judgements that an injured Gawn is a better option than a bball rookie, or an out of form TMac was more likely to find form than a first year undersized kid. Other times he's been called inflexible have been when he sticks with a game plan the players have learnt for 3 years, hoping that the work with pay off, instead of throwing it out and hoping they'll catch on to something new in a single week. What some people call inflexible or stubborn, others might call pragmatic, realistic and risk based. In a game of percentages at the elite level, Hail Mary's rarely pay off Appreciate your insight Goody, thanks 3 Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: Hickey and Reid. Reid on average no better than Amartey or McDonald. The scoreboard definitely flattered us. 1 Quote
tiers 2,883 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, deanox said: Other times he's been called inflexible have been when he sticks with a game plan the players have learnt for 3 years, hoping that the work with pay off, instead of throwing it out and hoping they'll catch on to something new in a single week. After the GF 2021 there was a recording of Goody' comments on the boundary to players interchanging during the period when doggies were on top. He didn't sound worried. Simple, repetitive (highly paraphrased) "stick to the plan". No panic, sudden changes just maintain the plan. And he was rewarded. 2 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 One thing that stood out for me was where we were taking our shots on goal from. Most seemed within 30 and slight angles. I’ll need to watch the full replay but watching it live they seemed to be always from a good spot. 1 Quote
IRW 1,388 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, rpfc said: Pretty good at it tho… Richmond Premiers Pies to miss finals 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, IRW said: Richmond Premiers Pies to miss finals Lightening premiers Quote
Fanatique Demon 2,764 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Spargo was very efficient, but does he know how to smile? 1 1 Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, IRW said: Richmond Premiers Pies to miss finals Yes? She has little idea about that? And is usually spot on with the ‘gossip/politics’ … as I was referencing? Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 17 hours ago, loges said: Easily our best all round performance since 2021 finals and a great response to the dross served up the previous week. Not really a poor player and isn't it great to see young talent perform McVee, Chandler and Roo. Chandler was great. At the game, I was impressed with the effort of JJ, as well. He was not phantastique but he did try some things that sparked interest and was solid in some defensive efforts. More experience for him, please! I can imagine both Chandler and JJ being a rather varied, potent and successful tag-team on the forward line. 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 16 hours ago, loges said: JJ played a great game. Was creative, hit targets and even showed some flair. Tag with Chandler - the two add dimensions not yet considered from the centre field to the goal mouth. Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Gorgoroth said: One thing that stood out for me was where we were taking our shots on goal from. Most seemed within 30 and slight angles. I’ll need to watch the full replay but watching it live they seemed to be always from a good spot. Here you go. 1 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 10 hours ago, In Harmes Way said: Appreciate your insight Goody, thanks Laughed out loud at this, thankyou! 1 Quote
FlashInThePan 1,893 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Just watched the replay, am I being overly sensitive or was BT and to a lesser extent, Cameron Ling, actively barracking for the swans? I felt like they were pumping up everything the swans did, and talking us down at every opportunity. 2 Quote
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