Trade Rumours 2023

[COOLX 152]

Adelaide trade pick 10 , Riley Tilthorpe , McAdam to Melbourne for  Petty , pick 11 and a future first rounder. We still do have enough currency to get the number one pick.

[Mickey 4,238]

2 minutes ago, COOLX said:

Adelaide trade pick 10 , Riley Tilthorpe , McAdam to Melbourne for  Petty , pick 11 and a future first rounder. We still do have enough currency to get the number one pick.

We give up Petty, 11 and a future first? No way

[3183 Dee 2,654]

30 minutes ago, COOLX said:

Adelaide trade pick 10 , Riley Tilthorpe , McAdam to Melbourne for  Petty , pick 11 and a future first rounder. We still do have enough currency to get the number one pick.

Overs - not sure why people are keen to give Petty away so cheaply. Even if Petty was up for trade, McAdam shouldn’t even come into the equation.

[picket fence 15,700]

5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Petty = Mihocek
JVR < McStay (youth)
Fullarton/J Smith < Cox

ANB > Ginnivan but only equal to in form Lipinski
Fritsch = Elliot (could be better if he defended)
Pickett > Hill (but has to back it up)
Chandler/Spargo << McCreery 

McAdam < Schultz

Are J. Smith and the fossils as useful depth as Ash Johnson and Frampton - probably not.

Does either side have great youth coming through, Jefferson and Reef McInnes both have talent but otherwise not really.

They’ve got the advantage for experience and depth of useful talls for now. But with time that can change.

In theory Petracca can go forward more easily than De Goey as we have a more explosive midfield mix. 

Mc Creery is that far ahead of Spargo and Chandler, guy is a GUN!

[picket fence 15,700]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

C'mon. 1 Kick and 1 Handball....but gee they were beauties

So Frampton Comes Unalive!!💩

[spirit of norm smith 13,531]

49 minutes ago, COOLX said:

Adelaide trade pick 10 , Riley Tilthorpe , McAdam to Melbourne for  Petty , pick 11 and a future first rounder. We still do have enough currency to get the number one pick.

Thats a stinker.  So bad. Tilthorpe and McAdam for Petty and MFC future 1st round.  🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[Demons11 6,404]

13 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Mc Creery is that far ahead of Spargo and Chandler, guy is a GUN!

A gun??? Spargos 21 season was 10 times better than McCreery’s 23 season 

[picket fence 15,700]

13 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

A gun??? Spargos 21 season was 10 times better than McCreery’s 23 season 

Yeah but Mc Creerys 23 season was superior and far ahead of Spargy 23  anyday😉

[MoeSyzlak 599]

38 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

A gun??? Spargos 21 season was 10 times better than McCreery’s 23 season 

Not sure about that. It’s actually very, very close. 

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=5&pid1=6873&fid1=S&playerStatus2=A&tid2=12&pid2=4150&fid2=P&fopt2=2021&type=T

 

[Demonstone 19,812]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Mc Creery is that far ahead of Spargo and Chandler, guy is a GUN!

[WalkingCivilWar 34,115]

On 15/10/2023 at 19:54, Demonsone said:

Agree with Oliver & Petty..  I’d like the club to comment on the whole Grundy disaster in particular Goodwin 360 in him & what went wrong …will be egg on his face if Grundy succeeds at the Swans even more so if they happen to win a flag!

Egg on his face?! What has Grundy’s future with another club got to do with Goody? Since when is the level of success a player attains at his new club a reflection on his former coach?!

Also, you’d like the Club to comment on the “whole Grundy disaster”??? Why??? Exactly what would that achieve?

”Goodwin 360 in him” what does this even mean??! Did you mean Goodwin 86-ing him? Or Goodwin 360-ing him, which doesn’t make sense coz how does one 360 someone? Genuine question.

 

[redandbluemakepurple 325]

On 15/10/2023 at 19:54, Demonsone said:

Agree with Oliver & Petty..  I’d like the club to comment on the whole Grundy disaster in particular Goodwin 360 in him & what went wrong …will be egg on his face if Grundy succeeds at the Swans even more so if they happen to win a flag!

Huh!  What Grundy disaster?   Came for Pick 27 and on a cut-rate salary.  Left for a future similar pick and pick 47 (which we may not use).  Filled in admirably when Gawn was out for 5(?) matches.  We won when he played.  He should have played in the finals to pressure the oppo defense by just standing there.  Everyone else wanted to be on the lead or jumping speculatively over a pack.

[Demonsone 1,703]

18 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

Huh!  What Grundy disaster?   Came for Pick 27 and on a cut-rate salary.  Left for a future similar pick and pick 47 (which we may not use).  Filled in admirably when Gawn was out for 5(?) matches.  We won when he played.  He should have played in the finals to pressure the oppo defense by just standing there.  Everyone else wanted to be on the lead or jumping speculatively over a pack.

Disaster was not playing him…. Should still be there 

[whatwhat say what 19,946]

21 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

Huh!  What Grundy disaster?   Came for Pick 27 and on a cut-rate salary.  Left for a future similar pick and pick 47 (which we may not use).  Filled in admirably when Gawn was out for 5(?) matches.  We won when he played.  He should have played in the finals to pressure the oppo defense by just standing there.  Everyone else wanted to be on the lead or jumping speculatively over a pack.

we did use it; on fullarton

we traded a second rounder in 2022 for a second rounder in 2024

it was an experiment; it failed

[Demonsone 1,703]

I’m sure it’s been covered but Is Gunston not worth looking at? 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Obviously trade period still has some time to go but I'm not sure we're going to see improvement next year as far as ladder position or finals run goes if Fullerton and McAdam are our only trades and 6 and 11 our two picks for the draft. 

We're not going to get further improvement out of our core as they're in the prime as is. Gawn and May are past their prime so it's more likely that they'll decline. 

Of course we'll see some natural improvement from our younger brigade but none of them are prime movers. Rivers and McVee had great years but are don't and won't impact games like Trac and Oliver. And teams around us like Carlton and Sydney have a greater abundance of young prime movers who will naturally improve which will see those sides become even stronger. I think JVR plays a supporting role and I don't think he's ever going to tear games apart. He's an undersized key forward. 

Oliver is no guarantee to even play at this stage and I thinks it's naive to suggest we'll be going through a season without any injuries to key players. It happens to every side every year. 

So there's some natural concern here for not changing things up enough if this is how we're looking for next year, atm we're looking very same same. 

My hope is we can move up the draft and nab one of Reid, McKertcher, Sanders or Duursma. I think those three players will impact in their first year but also create hype and excitement. 

Still time, fingers crossed we make some changes. 

 

[2021 134]

2 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Obviously trade period still has some time to go but I'm not sure we're going to see improvement next year as far as ladder position or finals run goes if Fullerton and McAdam are our only trades and 6 and 11 our two picks for the draft. 

We're not going to get further improvement out of our core as they're in the prime as is. Gawn and May are past their prime so it's more likely that they'll decline. 

Of course we'll see some natural improvement from our younger brigade but none of them are prime movers. Rivers and McVee had great years but are don't and won't impact games like Trac and Oliver. And teams around us like Carlton and Sydney have a greater abundance of young prime movers who will naturally improve which will see those sides become even stronger. I think JVR plays a supporting role and I don't think he's ever going to tear games apart. He's an undersized key forward. 

Oliver is no guarantee to even play at this stage and I thinks it's naive to suggest we'll be going through a season without any injuries to key players. It happens to every side every year. 

So there's some natural concern here for not changing things up enough if this is how we're looking for next year, atm we're looking very same same. 

My hope is we can move up the draft and nab one of Reid, McKertcher, Sanders or Duursma. I think those three players will impact in their first year but also create hype and excitement. 

Still time, fingers crossed we make some changes. 

 

I think Sanders might be available at 6 anyway

[Wrecker46 2,734]

9 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah but Mc Creerys 23 season was superior and far ahead of Spargy 23  anyday😉

Spargo produced a much game in the 23 finals than McCreery did or could. Not sure what Spargo was doing for the rest of the year but his spark was back and looks set for a good 24.

[Frustrated Demon 243]

5 hours ago, Demonsone said:

I’m sure it’s been covered but Is Gunston not worth looking at? 

I was thinking the same thing. Would depend what they want for him as I’m sure he is still under contract.

[Pipefitter 2,071]

13 hours ago, Young Blood said:

Haha the old whipping boy eh. I remember those days. We need more Nibbla's!

It’s amazing hey? A guy who’s not blessed with all the tools of our rolls Royce midfield is our most likely kick into 50. 

[rpfc 27,662]

4 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Obviously trade period still has some time to go but I'm not sure we're going to see improvement next year as far as ladder position or finals run goes if Fullerton and McAdam are our only trades and 6 and 11 our two picks for the draft. 

We're not going to get further improvement out of our core as they're in the prime as is. Gawn and May are past their prime so it's more likely that they'll decline. 

Of course we'll see some natural improvement from our younger brigade but none of them are prime movers. Rivers and McVee had great years but are don't and won't impact games like Trac and Oliver. And teams around us like Carlton and Sydney have a greater abundance of young prime movers who will naturally improve which will see those sides become even stronger. I think JVR plays a supporting role and I don't think he's ever going to tear games apart. He's an undersized key forward. 

Oliver is no guarantee to even play at this stage and I thinks it's naive to suggest we'll be going through a season without any injuries to key players. It happens to every side every year. 

So there's some natural concern here for not changing things up enough if this is how we're looking for next year, atm we're looking very same same. 

My hope is we can move up the draft and nab one of Reid, McKertcher, Sanders or Duursma. I think those three players will impact in their first year but also create hype and excitement. 

Still time, fingers crossed we make some changes. 

 

I think there is plenty of natural improvement in the team structurally. Our forward line set up and delivery was terrible, and personnel is improved with health. McVee and Rivers will hopefully be given the reigns of movement away from ‘wait and see’ May and Salem.

I can see where you’re coming from but I can also see where we can get better with better coaching and a more adept gameplan that doesn’t make the ground so small as @old55 put so well a few weeks back.

[Ungarieboy 363]

Had anyone considered that Melbourne's fair and reasonable approach to trading; has mades us a target for raiding players!!!

 

[djr 1,084]

30 minutes ago, Ungarieboy said:

Had anyone considered that Melbourne's fair and reasonable approach to trading; has mades us a target for raiding players!!!

 

No. Melb has only traded players who they don't mind moving on. They have not lost anyone significant who they preferred to keep. Maybe Jackson. I believe the medium/long term strategy here is for the club to free up cap space in order to target the likes of Sean Darcy, Todd Marshall, JUH and maybe Ben King in 2024.

Edited October 16, 2023 by djr

[rpfc 27,662]

32 minutes ago, Ungarieboy said:

Had anyone considered that Melbourne's fair and reasonable approach to trading; has mades us a target for raiding players!!!

 

Ironically, and contrary to your malevolent use of exclamation marks, we behave like this so that player managers are fully aware that we will act in good faith with their clients. That has helped us keep and attract players.

[Roger Mellie 3,611]

12 hours ago, Redleg said:

Saints offered Paddy Dow a 3 year contract, but won't give Carlton pick 56 for him.

Wow!

Oh, I just remembered, SOS is the Saint's list manager and we know his feelings about Carlton.

A bit like the Hawks - they want a second-round pick for Koschitske yet only offer a third for Chol (along with a 4 year deal).