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  On 21/10/2022 at 06:49, old55 said:

According to Damian Barrett the plan may have been hatched on Lindsay Fox's recent birthday cruise from NYC to  Montreal:
https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/twiggy-lew-and-eddie-all-aboard-lindsay-fox-s-5m-birthday-cruise-20220829-p5bdn1

Purple is a bit behind the times.  I thought it was obvious from the start:

  On 14/10/2022 at 21:22, Lucifers Hero said:

So they decide to sack him having effectively recruited his replacement.  They let the man believe he had a chance when he didn't and they knew it.  They still made him beg for his job.  Then hit him for six.

Why would they put a good man who gave his all through that sort of torment.  The least they could have done was give him a heads up after the season ended or when Bassat came back from the cruise on Lindsay Fox's boat when it seems they hatched their plan.

 

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      On 21/10/2022 at 07:24, Lucifers Hero said:

    Purple is a bit behind the times.  I thought it was obvious from the start:

     

    Yes Purple is very slow here

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      On 21/10/2022 at 06:49, old55 said:

    According to Damian Barrett the plan may have been hatched on Lindsay Fox's recent birthday cruise from NYC to  Montreal:
    https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/twiggy-lew-and-eddie-all-aboard-lindsay-fox-s-5m-birthday-cruise-20220829-p5bdn1

    Yes, Lindsay Fox, the font of all football knowledge. This has got disaster written all over it. 

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      On 21/10/2022 at 10:49, KLV said:

    Yes, Lindsay Fox, the font of all football knowledge. This has got disaster written all over it. 

    Saints will Saint. Gotta love 'em!

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      On 21/10/2022 at 10:49, KLV said:

    Yes, Lindsay Fox, the font of all football knowledge. This has got disaster written all over it. 

    Didn't he sack Mike Patterson after two St. Kilda players went hard at the ball, but bumped each other out of the contest? Clearly very knowledgeable on footy matters @KLV. Wonder if he has a persona on 'Land - certainly wouldn't be out of his depth here. Or would he?

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    And Misson as fitness coach 🤣

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    I wonder Lyon's KPIs will be.

    The saints list is a total shambles. 

    Demographics are all over the place in terms of age and games played spread.

    Their budding superstar in King seems to suffer from the yips and is still 2-3 years away from his peak.

    Ryder is a big loss, tellingly even at his age. 

    Marshall is a good player, but platued last season, and will now have to carry ruck duties.

    They lack key defenders and have a c grade midfield.

    But most of all they simply do t have enough real A graders. 

    In that sense they remind me of the dees under Neeld. A bunch of b graders with questiable work ethic and therefore poor fitness.

    Not much neeld could have done with that list. And not much Lyon will be able to do.

    Given the trade period is finished Lyon is stuck with this list, at least for th3 next season, unlike the hawks who have gone down the total rebuild route and so have a strong hand in this and next year's draft.

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      On 23/10/2022 at 23:35, binman said:

    I wonder Lyon's KPIs will be.

    The saints list is a total shambles. 

    Demographics are all over the place in terms of age and games played spread.

    Their budding superstar in King seems to suffer from the yips and is still 2-3 years away from his peak.

    Ryder is a big loss, tellingly even at his age. 

    Marshall is a good player, but platued last season, and will now have to carry ruck duties.

    They lack key defenders and have a c grade midfield.

    But most of all they simply do t have enough real A graders. 

    In that sense they remind me of the dees under Neeld. A bunch of b graders with questiable work ethic and therefore poor fitness.

    Not much neeld could have done with that list. And not much Lyon will be able to do.

    Given the trade period is finished Lyon is stuck with this list, at least for th3 next season, unlike the hawks who have gone down the total rebuild route and so have a strong hand in this and next year's draft.

    I really hope that when they have their press conference they openly state where they expect to finish in the next couple of years. It feels like a club that doesn’t realise how far away they are from challenging for a premiership. Their list is so middle of the road it’s not funny and as you say their top end talent just doesn’t stack up against most teams. 
     

     

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    Their recruitment has stuffed up. Thats where the clean out is required

    Ratten did a reasonable job in the circumstances. Too good actually because that finals appearance and good start to last year gave a false impression of where their list was at. The dangers of exceeding expectations

    Tha said i am looking forward to seeing how Lyon goes this time around. Will be fun watching the train wreck unfold

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      On 23/10/2022 at 02:56, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    Didn't he sack Mike Patterson after two St. Kilda players went hard at the ball, but bumped each other out of the contest?

    Correct. And the other coaches at the time said they'd rather two blokes crash into each other than both stand back and wait for the other to do something. But King Lindsay must have his private beach way.

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    • Demonland changed the title to Saints Sack Ratten & Appoint Lyon as Coach

    Very defensive coach.  Teams aren't playing like that anymore so it will be interesting to see what game plan he come up with

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      On 21/10/2022 at 02:56, bobby1554 said:

    All of this has been orchestrated by an ex coach. Has been talking to Lyon for months, from what I understand 

    First sign of madness, talking to oneself...

    (Just a little one everyone missed there. Big 👍, as usual, to everyone for the funandfootyness in this thread!)

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      On 21/10/2022 at 02:56, bobby1554 said:

    All of this has been orchestrated by an ex coach. Has been talking to Lyon for months, from what I understand 

    Thommo the Tank Engine?

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    What an inspiring choice, to coach an uninspiring team.

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