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4 minutes ago, IRW said:

I said nothing about courageous changes this week pal.That ship has sailed and won't be back on port until next season when apparently we a looking at getting an aging injury prone ruckman who,as good as he may be ,isn't good enough for a hot young team without a first choice ruckman to want to keep. 

Perhaps that's your view of courageous?

We need another powerful running mid

We  really need some one with the potential to recharge our " bottom six" because apparently there isn't anyone waiting in the wings  or surely when we had the the chance at 10 zip we would have trialed them ( sort of like the freedom of Geelongs ground).

This week I accept they may just shuffle the deck chairs  and it may be enough for a 50/50 game given that we last year we were the best team going around. 

Bowey in sounds like a possibility 

Next year is time for a new attitude. 

Has the FD got that ability? We have most of the attributes in place if they have the courage.

 

 
On 9/4/2022 at 8:26 PM, McQueen said:

If Tmac is still too risky I’d give Joel Smith a crack at Melksham’s role. 
 

The way Melksham carries himself on the field is so depressing to watch. 
 

And Bedford for ANB. 

Bedford, for sure. Pacey and dangerous up forward. Knows where the goals happen to be. Joel is a good consideration but it appears that after injury, he has been left off the dance card too long. With the Melk, he certainly can be a talent but it appears to be related to the roll of the dice. I wish we had a mosquito fleet in place up forward. The talls just ain't doing it for us. 

Having seen both finals in Melbourne last weekend pace is a serious factor. Would like to see Bowey back. I subscribe to the sentiment that radical changes will be an off-season focus

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    18 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

    i know

    i just don't like him inside

    If Brayshaw could hit 50% of his targets it would actually work ok.

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    If Spargo misses, straight swap for Bowey. Another good user, can play same role.

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    On 9/3/2022 at 1:34 PM, KysaiahMessiah said:

    I just dont get the Gawn forward thing.  He's a ruckman, one of the best in the game.  He isn't, never was, and never will be, a viable forward.  He is a ruckman, and kicks like one.

    Why not try JVR?  Really, why not?

    I watched the kid from FREO who has only played two games kick multiple goals, and has a similar game to JVR.   Why JVR wasn't given a couple of games prior to finals amazes me.

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    22 hours ago, dees189227 said:

    When did Spargo cop that knock to the throat & who did it?

    Probably Franklin, he's always flapping his arms about appealing for a free or protesting.

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    Bowey would be wasted at half forward, we'd just bomb it over his head. He'd cop the Spargoat treatment

    Wing on the other hand...

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    Play JVR ffs

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    i'd be tempted to go a bit smaller and have Brown as the only tall down there, would encourage them not to bomb it and give us more run and forward half pressure. 

    Out: Melksham

    In: Chandler 

    The medical report states that Spargo has bruised vocal cords and cannot talk. I don't think you can be considered to play if you cannot talk, there is only so much pointing and sign language one can do. A friend who knows TMac has told me TMac has put his hand up to playing he believes he is right to go. I believe we definitely need another tall marking target up forward.

    My left-field selection would be to play Jackson on the wing a la Mathew Richardson in his day and similar to Blicavs. Indeed Geelong are happy for both ruckman, Stanley & Blicavs to be at the contest!

     

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    2 hours ago, stinga said:

    I watched the kid from FREO who has only played two games kick multiple goals, and has a similar game to JVR.   Why JVR wasn't given a couple of games prior to finals amazes me.

    Should have played when we took him to Perth as an emergency and against Norf. Most clubs blood several or more new debutants every season for regeneration purposes. We have only debuted Daniel Turner for one game. Dunstan doesn’t count and Chandler also deserved at least a full game somewhere. Out of form players or injured are not being dropped or are being replaced with fringe players that have been around a while. It’s not ideal particularly since we have been going stale for most of the second half of the season.

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    Given the weather forecast (showers and most likely in the afternoon and evening), surely TMac only comes in for a tall. There's no way we can go TMac, Ben Brown and a resting Gawn in our forward 50 - the ball will bounce back like it's just hit a trampoline.

     


    Harmes in the middle to tag Lachie Neale, Brayshaw back to the wing. Tracc to play majority half forward if he is 80% fit. Dunstan onto the bench. Freo debuted a forward kid last Saturday so I would be tempted to give Van Rooyan a crack up forward. Max to play majority first ruck and stay behind the ball. LJ not sure what to do with him, he is not doing a lot. 
     Anyway it’s all academic, knowing Goody he will trust his system and go in unchanged if players are deemed fit. 

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    10 hours ago, Waltham33 said:

    Having seen both finals in Melbourne last weekend pace is a serious factor. Would like to see Bowey back. I subscribe to the sentiment that radical changes will be an off-season focus

    I agree pace is a factor.  Both ways ...ie away from congestion / opponent and closing speed.

    If you want pace i reckon Bedford has to be close to the quickest on our list or at least as quick as the likes of Hunt & Kozzy.

    I'd love to see him in this week for ANB.

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    2 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    Harmes in the middle to tag Lachie Neale, Brayshaw back to the wing. Tracc to play majority half forward if he is 80% fit. Dunstan onto the bench. Freo debuted a forward kid last Saturday so I would be tempted to give Van Rooyan a crack up forward. Max to play majority first ruck and stay behind the ball. LJ not sure what to do with him, he is not doing a lot. 
     Anyway it’s all academic, knowing Goody he will trust his system and go in unchanged if players are deemed fit. 

    If Max was a tad younger and/or fully fit you could possibly go in with just Max and swap LJ for JVR.  Push BB more time playing higher up to help out down the line in a CHF type role, JVR playing mostly deep.

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    12 hours ago, Demonland said:

     

    There might not be a 'next week'

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    Massive call to make but if he's in the mix he's clearly done something right. 


    Tom said yesterday he probably needs another game with Casey before being considered, so sounds like he has been told not this week.

    14 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Tom said yesterday he probably needs another game with Casey before being considered, so sounds like he has been told not this week.

    It is a big risk to play him in a do or die final, when he was in average at best form prior to injury, is already slower than the Titanic and is coming off a very very serious injury.

    I think playing JVR would be less risky, and we know the coaching department won't pull that trigger. 

    On 9/5/2022 at 10:08 PM, Simon Port said:

    In: Bedford, Smith, Dunstan

    Out: Neal-Bullen, Melksham, Harmes

    No.

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    35 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Tom said yesterday he probably needs another game with Casey before being considered, so sounds like he has been told not this week.

    I think that makes sense - he looked a long way off being ready to make an impact at AFL level in his one and only Casey game back from serious injury

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    My god we have to win this Friday; such pressure on the club to at least get to a PF.

    Love it! 

    They will have to get used to that pressure with that midfield and backline for the next 4 years or so until May and Gawn depart.

    Now, for the rest of 2021, the changes need not be personnel; we need a change of mindset with the footy and be quick on turnover and take the extra second that we have with our bulls in the middle to get it cleanly out of the stoppage and not just to another contest 30m away. 

    This Goodwin can get us back to - but he has to get us to a PF to show we have improved.

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