Creepy cult like stuff. And we nearly did the same.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-knife-a-harness-and-the-power-stance-eddie-betts-reveals-cult-like-training-camp-20220801-p5b6ej.html

Edited August 2, 20223 yr by John Crow Batty

Is this the infamous pre season crows camp?

3 minutes ago, Satan said:

Is this the infamous pre season crows camp?

Yes. It’s sound like it was horror show.

Crows just can't get away from this story

Good lord! Sounds horrific

surprised they haven’t been sued yet

Sometimes journos are dead on; and Sam and Caro got a lot of personal crap for their reporting on this.

Maybe don’t run toxic and stupid camps that can be politely referred to as ‘weird’…

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Good lord! Sounds horrific

surprised they haven’t been sued yet

That was my first thought.

This is way worse than I remember reading at the time. That’s some Waco sh*it right there. 

46 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

And we nearly did the same.

Did we...I know we didn't do a repeat of a previous camp as players weren't too keen but was it the same as this one?

I didn't think so.

8 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Sometimes journos are dead on; and Sam and Caro got a lot of personal crap for their reporting on this.

Maybe don’t run toxic and stupid camps that can be politely referred to as ‘weird’…

I'm hit and miss with Sam at times.

Caro on the other hand is one of the best journo's going around, and I say that without hesitation. 

They've had a rep of doing stuff like that at the Crows. I remember 20 or show years ago that Nigel Smart was walking across burning hot coals.

That's how he earned his nickname "Notso".

The camp was run by an outfit known as the "Mankind Project". For a taste of the kind of stuff that goes down at a "Mankind Project" camp, read on, dear 'lander ...

My (very) weird weekend with the naked woodland warriors who travel to remote England to 'reclaim their masculinity'

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm hit and miss with Sam at times.

Caro on the other hand is one of the best journo's going around, and I say that without hesitation. 

I wouldn’t disagree and I know Sam quite well.

What disappoints me is that I know there are people that would read all that and be like ‘so what, mate. Suck it up, it’s not like they hit you.’

They were disrespectful to his culture, betrayed his confidences in front of his colleagues, berated him, and his club thanked him for leading and standing up for his brethren by demoting him and pushing him out the club. 

What a culture.

And not to say how great are we but we were close to going down this path and instead went down the path of embracing uniqueness, respect, and having trust in your teammates to let them be if they do the work. 

I’ll take our PC woke culture any day of the week and twice on the last Saturday in September…

Edited August 2, 20223 yr by rpfc

It does sound wacko but If it had of worked theses we’d be singing it’s praises I suppose. 

10 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I wouldn’t disagree and I know Sam quite well.

What disappoints me is that I know there are people that would read all that and be like ‘so what, mate. Suck it up, it’s not like they hit you.’

They we’re disrespectful to his culture, betrayed his confidences in front of his colleagues, berated him, and his club thanked him for leading and standing up for his brethren by demoting him and pushing him out the club. 

What a culture.

And not to say how great are we but we were close to going down this path and instead went down the path of embracing uniqueness, respect, and having trust in your teammates to let them be if they do the work. 

I’ll take our PC woke culture any day of the week and twice on the last Saturday in September…

Agree 100% and well said mate.

Making Don Pyke lose his mind and walk around silently eyeballing players is one of the great, underrated MFC highlights.

4 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

Making Don Pyke lose his mind and walk around silently eyeballing players is one of the great, underrated MFC highlights.

Oh that was bloody brilliant, which game was that again? Was that the 100 point drubbing in Alice Springs?

2 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Creepy cult like stuff. And we nearly did the same.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-knife-a-harness-and-the-power-stance-eddie-betts-reveals-cult-like-training-camp-20220801-p5b6ej.html

Absolute fruitcakes who run this stuff. "Don't shower so you smell manly" 🤣🤣 [censored] nuffies, they sound like a bunch of incels.

Standing in a circle yelling obscenities at each other not having washed for days.

I've sat in the Collingwood cheer squad before, they've been using this technique for decades.

6 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Standing in a circle yelling obscenities at each other not having washed for days.

I've sat in the Collingwood cheer squad before, they've been using this technique for decades.

Never loose the humour d'landers.  Gold.

This "team building culture forming" psycho babble  gets sold ( in various forms) to organisations all the time - even in these "enlightened" times.

I'm [censored] if I can understand how people still fall for it.

1 hour ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

They've had a rep of doing stuff like that at the Crows. I remember 20 or show years ago that Nigel Smart was walking across burning hot coals.

And suffered burns to his feet 😂

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=786514271986872

Mythbusters covered firewalking in one episode and the secret is to walk quickly and softly over the coals.

As the above clip shows, Notso Smart burnt his feet by stomping heavily through the embers.

19 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

This "team building culture forming" psycho babble  gets sold ( in various forms) to organisations all the time - even in these "enlightened" times.

I'm [censored] if I can understand how people still fall for it.

The problem is, some of it is not psycho babble. But then a group of profit sniffing wankers will jump on board and develop a "world first training programme" that is cutting edge. I'm a big fan of what the Pacific Institute do with their development style. Nick Saban has been using the philosophies and development techniques  with them for years and amongst other things has kept Alabama College football team at the top for 20+ yrs.

Meanwhile “Tex” from Broken Hill writes…

“The camp that we went on as a footy club, personally I found one of the most beneficial and rewarding camps I've ever been on as an individual.

"And I encourage any of my mates or family members to do the same thing” 

- ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

(that’s a real quote)

Edited August 2, 20223 yr by Mel Bourne