Let Jason Taylor find another young gun.

I have the feeling we've seen the best of Grundy.

 

On 8/13/2022 at 12:46 PM, Fat Tony said:

Grundy was very impressed by the MFC presentation this week according to Sam Edmond on SEN. 

But ….. was the feeling mutual??

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Edited August 30, 20222 yr by Sideshow Bob
Not my place to post this

2 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

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How about you let us be the judge of that!

On 8/11/2022 at 11:43 PM, redandbluemakepurple said:

Neither Grundy or Gawn is worth their place as a KPF for 80% match time while the other is rucking. 

What we need is for LJ is a first round draft pick to get a 196+ forward with a wide frame so that he can add kgs and strength.

... and damage to opponents' bodies! What we really need, with JVR on the immediate future functions up forward, is more mongrel - big hearted, big bodied, big experience. Grundy could well do much of this, as a side-line to his real task. A better footballer than the Yank with a mission at cross-purposes.

Edited August 30, 20222 yr by Deemania since 56

Here we go..

 

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Here we go..

 

On 8/11/2022 at 9:19 AM, Neil Crompton said:

 

While you make a good point about the money side Luci, but it’s taking on a 5 year contract thats the real turn off for me. Having him for 2 or 3 years would not be so bad, but 5? when he is already 29 and under an injury cloud? 
I think we’d be better off with a young up and coming ruck, who we can develop, rather than having 2 ageing ruckmen who may not compliment each other as well as we might currently think. 

I have a question for you Neil:

Should we get Grundy for 5 yrs on $700 per year and he plays a significant role in 1 or 2 more flags, would it be worth it?

Many doggies supporters I know rave about the recruitment of Tom Boyd from GWS because of his performance in the 2016 GF. He was on $1mill pa

I'm less concerned about the Grundy contract (though I trust our FD to not f it up) and more worried about his injuries and our ability to fix them

We are in the window for about the next 3 years. I want at least 2 more flags in this time. 

On 8/29/2022 at 1:05 AM, dee-tox said:

Let Jason Taylor find another young gun.

I have the feeling we've seen the best of Grundy.

 

Haven’t seen it posted anywhere bout Jason Taylor recruited Grundy, and he has been clear on the fact that he follows picks, I think he would have some very good insights into what Grundy offers that we might not be privy too. On the flip side, I am deeply suspicious of Grundy’s injury, we should get Richmond to proof him..

So on Monday David King had is top 10 rated players in finals over the last 5 years....I don't really rate his (Champion Data) ratings but for what it's worth Trac was 4, Clarry 5 &  Grundy 6...

Seems that Grundy might just have something to offer.

edit: they had tp have played at least 5 finals. Of course Dusty was at 1.

Edited August 30, 20222 yr by rjay

I doubt Grundy would go back to SA.  He likes the Melbourne 'hipster' life too much.  Possibly why he may not go to Geelong.  That leaves Dees and Hawks.  Hawks can more easily accommodate his $ and Coll trade requirements, given the picks currently known.

 

Edit:  Just read this:  "Port Adelaide is out of the running for Brodie Grundy, with the star Magpie telling the club he isn’t interested in making the move to South Australia..Grundy spoke to Port via Zoom over a month ago — and hadn’t met with coach Ken Hinkley — and it was quickly ascertained he wanted to stay in Victoria and had no interest in returning to SA...

It leaves Melbourne as the frontrunner for the dual All-Australian’s services slightly ahead of Geelong, and while the 28-year old could yet stay at Collingwood, he’s heavily pursuing his options.

The report also states he’s determined to re-establish himself as one of the top ruckmen in the competition next season after struggling to get back to his previous best form of years’ past including having his 2022 ruined by injury. Hawthorn and GWS have also been linked to the big man." on Fox Footy.

Edited August 30, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

 

Yep, two horse race according to Edmonds..

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-brodie-grundy-port-adelaide-out-of-race-contenders-suitors-junior-rioli-ollie-henry-josh-corbett-collingwood-magpies-players-out-of-contract/news-story/0550ed751ce43bbc5cb0de8849fa0151

 

Can't see Geelong being prepared to give up a high draft pick for Grundy. They must be desperate to inject some more youth into their list

14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Can't see Geelong being prepared to give up a high draft pick for Grundy. They must be desperate to inject some more youth into their list

Does that mean that if they can fit Grundy in, he would be one of the youngest on their list?

It won't be long before Dan Andrews announces funding for a new aged care facility to house these guys.

4 minutes ago, Hardley Benial said:

Does that mean that if they can fit Grundy in, he would be one of the youngest on their list?

It won't be long before Dan Andrews announces funding for a new aged care facility to house these guys.

It's rotten how much state Government funding Geelong Football Club receives for a city of 250k people while Melbourne, as the oldest football club in the world, is still trying to establish our home base in Melbourne.  If an announcement is not made as part of the election campaign this year our club needs to pursue all legal options to make sure we get our home.

While I'd prefer De Koning, I can certainly see the benefit in Grundy while we're trying to win flags in the immediate term.

Dees send Jackson & Pick 53 to Fremantle and Pick 35 to Filth.

Freo send Pick 14 to us and future 1st Round Pick to Filth.

Filth send Grundy and Pick 48 to us.

Melbourne lose Jackson, Pick 35 & 53 but gain Grundy, Pick 14 & Pick 48.

Fremantle lose Pick 14 & Future 1st Round Pick but gain Jackson & Pick 53.

Filth lose Grundy and Pick 48 but gain Pick 35 & Future 1st Round Pick.

5 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

While I'd prefer De Koning, I can certainly see the benefit in Grundy while we're trying to win flags in the immediate term.

Dees send Jackson & Pick 53 to Fremantle and Pick 35 to Filth.

Freo send Pick 14 to us and future 1st Round Pick to Filth.

Filth send Grundy and Pick 48 to us.

Melbourne lose Jackson, Pick 35 & 53 but gain Grundy, Pick 14 & Pick 48.

Fremantle lose Pick 14 & Future 1st Round Pick but gain Jackson & Pick 53.

Filth lose Grundy and Pick 48 but gain Pick 35 & Future 1st Round Pick.

There's no situation where Collingwood should gain a first round pick for a cap dump 

3 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

While I'd prefer De Koning, I can certainly see the benefit in Grundy while we're trying to win flags in the immediate term.

Dees send Jackson & Pick 53 to Fremantle and Pick 35 to Filth.

Freo send Pick 14 to us and future 1st Round Pick to Filth.

Filth send Grundy and Pick 48 to us.

Melbourne lose Jackson, Pick 35 & 53 but gain Grundy, Pick 14 & Pick 48.

Fremantle lose Pick 14 & Future 1st Round Pick but gain Jackson & Pick 53.

Filth lose Grundy and Pick 48 but gain Pick 35 & Future 1st Round Pick.

That's a horrible deal for us and the Pies make out like bandits. People need to wake up to the fact that the Pies need Grundy off their books if they want to keep DeGoey and get their trade targets.

His contract at the Pies is a noose around their neck. Why are we not only assisting them in acquiring players, we're giving them a 1st round pick as well?

 

 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, mo64 said:

That's a horrible deal for us and the Pies make out like bandits. People need to wake up to the fact that the Pies need Grundy off their books if they want to keep DeGoey and get their trade targets.

His contract at the Pies is a noose around their neck. Why are we not only assisting them in acquiring players, we're giving them a 1st round pick as well?

 

 

 

 

 

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Except we're not giving them a 1st Round Pick in that instance, Fremantle are. All we do with them is swap our Pick 35 with their Pick 48.

How about Freo give us 2 first rounders (one top 5) and Meeks or someone similar, Collingwood pay 300k of Grundys wage and we give them the last pick in the draft.

6 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Except we're not giving them a 1st Round Pick in that instance, Fremantle are. All we do with them is swap our Pick 35 with their Pick 48.

Ok. So you borrow $10k from the bank and give it away to charity. You didn't give the money to charity, the bank did.

It's called net gain v net loss genius. Something Richo and before him Mahoney talked about all the time during trade period.

We get Grundy for Jackson. Taking into account Jacksons upside and being younger then Grundy (Grundy being an AA ruck at his best). Our Pick 35 turns into 14 and Pick 53 turns into 48. Other picks could also be swaped.

Filth shouldn't get a 1st Round Pick for Grundy as a salary dump I hear you say? So why did they get Pick 14 for Treloar back in 2020 as a salary dump?

The one team in my scenario that comes out ahead is potentially Freo with Jackson and Pick 53 for Pick 14 and a future first round pick. Which is why other pick swaps can potentially occur.

I don't want to lose Jackson anymore than the next supporter. But unlike some on here @mo64 it doesn't make me oblivious to other players values on the market and what history tells us occurs in these deals.

4 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

It's called net gain v net loss genius. Something Richo and before him Mahoney talked about all the time during trade period.

We get Grundy for Jackson. Taking into account Jacksons upside and being younger then Grundy (Grundy being an AA ruck at his best). Our Pick 35 turns into 14 and Pick 53 turns into 48. Other picks could also be swaped.

Filth shouldn't get a 1st Round Pick for Grundy as a salary dump I hear you say? So why did they get Pick 14 for Treloar back in 2020 as a salary dump?

The one team in my scenario that comes out ahead is potentially Freo with Jackson and Pick 53 for Pick 14 and a future first round pick. Which is why other pick swaps can potentially occur.

I don't want to lose Jackson anymore than the next supporter. But unlike some on here @mo64 it doesn't make me oblivious to other players values on the market and what history tells us occurs in these deals.

They received pick 14 for the Treloar because the dogs literally didn't need it, as it would have gotten chewed up in the JUH bid 

 

Edited August 31, 20222 yr by adonski

On 8/29/2022 at 9:05 AM, dee-tox said:

Let Jason Taylor find another young gun.

I have the feeling we've seen the best of Grundy.

 

I DONT !! would make us near INVINSIBLE