Trade and Free Agency rumours

[Turner 1,516]

josh corbett who took 17 marks and kicked 4.4 in the suns elim final win over BH is on the radar of the lions to replace mcstay and the dockers to replace lobb, wonder if we'd ask the question as a depth option as well given our talls situation

[mo64 5,881]

27 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

Just saw that Port may enter the race for Brodie Grundy. If that is the case and Jacko leaves, would we potentially look at Sam Hayes from Port to play with Max as a younger ruck option? He dominates at SANFL level and is only 23.

From the little I've seen of Sam Hayes at AFL level, he's purely a tap ruckman rather than a follower. Has no impact around the ground and takes very few contested marks. He's not the type I'd want as a no.2 ruckman.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

I still don’t get it

1). The Bulldogs have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to tall forwards - Naughton, Bruce, Sam Darcy, Ugle-Hagen, Schache and English drifts forward too. Yet they are said to be chasing Rory Lobb? 

2). Any club would want Jackson but Freos need for him is way less than say West Coast who has a talented but fat, injury prone 32yo, one effort ruck who is desperate for a “Luke Jackson type” to support him. On the other hand Freo have an up and coming dominant ruck in the 23yo Sean Darcy. Jackson would be playing behind him as he does behind Gawn with us. Freo and Jackson don’t seem like a natural fit particularly at a $1m a year cost to Freo

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

I assume Oliver Henry would be worth a look? Promising key forward, pies struggling with cap space.

Not sure where he was drafted but you'd assume if he choose to leave it wouldn't cost a premium

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Also Sam Edmond at SEN reporting Tom De koing might be gettable.

Would be an ideal replacement for LJ

[DubDee 26,191]

38 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

I still don’t get it

1). The Bulldogs have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to tall forwards - Naughton, Bruce, Sam Darcy, Ugle-Hagen, Schache and English drifts forward too. Yet they are said to be chasing Rory Lobb? 

2). Any club would want Jackson but Freos need for him is way less than say West Coast who has a talented but fat, injury prone 32yo, one effort ruck who is desperate for a “Luke Jackson type” to support him. On the other hand Freo have an up and coming dominant ruck in the 23yo Sean Darcy. Jackson would be playing behind him as he does behind Gawn with us. Freo and Jackson don’t seem like a natural fit particularly at a $1m a year cost to Freo

interesting alright, but the dogs issue all year was quality tall fwds that take marks.  Naughton was triple teamed.  Schache is useless, UH and Darcy are young but look good.  They need another tall to be 2nd ruck with English and take some marks

On number 2, Freo are deperate for talls especially up fwd.  with Lobb goen, Tabener always injured.  I think they will not play Jackson no 1 ruck while Darcy is playing.  Does LJ want to play predominately fwd??  doubt it

[1964_2 2,357]

22 minutes ago, DubDee said:

interesting alright, but the dogs issue all year was quality tall fwds that take marks.  Naughton was triple teamed.  Schache is useless, UH and Darcy are young but look good.  They need another tall to be 2nd ruck with English and take some marks

On number 2, Freo are deperate for talls especially up fwd.  with Lobb goen, Tabener always injured.  I think they will not play Jackson no 1 ruck while Darcy is playing.  Does LJ want to play predominately fwd??  doubt it

Only thing that makes sense to me, is LJ has been enticed by the big $$, and using the “go home” factor as a convenient excuse 

 

[Kent 2,916]

3 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Only thing that makes sense to me, is LJ has been enticed by the big $$, and using the “go home” factor as a convenient excuse 

 

LJ has said and done nothing about any proposed move He will consider his position after the season end 

I fully expect him, as I have from the start of this BS, TO RE-SIGN WITH THE DEES

There is no compelling reason to do otherwise and many good reason to do so!!

[Nascent 9,299]

36 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

Also Sam Edmond at SEN reporting Tom De koing might be gettable.

Would be an ideal replacement for LJ

Got serious potential this kid, just turned 23. Surprised Geelong aren't linked to him.

[1964_2 2,357]

4 minutes ago, Kent said:

LJ has said and done nothing about any proposed move He will consider his position after the season end 

I fully expect him, as I have from the start of this BS, TO RE-SIGN WITH THE DEES

There is no compelling reason to do otherwise and many good reason to do so!!

Don’t disagree with you Kent. But the fact that to date he hasn’t signed up to a premiership team who is well placed to go back to back, is more to do with the potential $$ on offer, rather than any desperate need to go home, in my humble opinion. 
 

[Lord Travis 10,763]

45 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

I assume Oliver Henry would be worth a look? Promising key forward, pies struggling with cap space.

Not sure where he was drafted but you'd assume if he choose to leave it wouldn't cost a premium

Was drafted late first round. He's also not a key forward at 189cms and 81kgs. While he's a decent young talent, he's not what were after as we have enough mid and small forwards. We need key forwards.

44 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

Also Sam Edmond at SEN reporting Tom De koing might be gettable.

Would be an ideal replacement for LJ

If true, then go hard! He's shown he could become an elite ruckman as he matures more and like his brother his aerial work and contested marking is very good. He's the right age bracket having just turned 23 years old a few weeks ago, so he'd be perfect as a long term ruck options after Max.
23 years old, 203cms tall, 103kgs, very athletic for his size. I'd be offering him a decent bit of coin and throwing a first rounder at Carlton for him.

[Redleg 41,751]

1 hour ago, COVID Dan said:

Also Sam Edmond at SEN reporting Tom De koing might be gettable.

Would be an ideal replacement for LJ

Him I would love. Can ruck, mark and play key forward.

Tommo would make their backline better and could be part of a deal.

Get him and we forget about Grundy.

[Redleg 41,751]

32 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Got serious potential this kid, just turned 23. Surprised Geelong aren't linked to him.

They will be. 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

SEN article for anyone interested

 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/30/edmunds-trade-update-on-dogs-mid-young-magpie-suns-forward-and-more/

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

2 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

I still don’t get it

1). The Bulldogs have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to tall forwards - Naughton, Bruce, Sam Darcy, Ugle-Hagen, Schache and English drifts forward too. Yet they are said to be chasing Rory Lobb? 

2). Any club would want Jackson but Freos need for him is way less than say West Coast who has a talented but fat, injury prone 32yo, one effort ruck who is desperate for a “Luke Jackson type” to support him. On the other hand Freo have an up and coming dominant ruck in the 23yo Sean Darcy. Jackson would be playing behind him as he does behind Gawn with us. Freo and Jackson don’t seem like a natural fit particularly at a $1m a year cost to Freo

Apart from Bruce at a pinch none of those Dogs talls can second ruck (would be a huge risk using Darcy in that role next year). Darcy is also likely to play down back. They’ll turn their talls from a weakness to a strength by adding multiple pieces. Lobb’s just a piece too, not a huge cost.

Jackson clearly isn’t keen on West Coast. He’s not leaving us in contention for a 2 win side. 

Reason 1 for Freo getting Jackson: 2 rucks who can both hold their own forward and play the ruck role differently is a huge advantage. Takes a lot of pressure off the key forwards. 
 

Reason 2: Darcy is a free agent at the end of 2024 and I reckon Freo know he’s either going to cost a fortune and/or head home then. They have the cap space and trade resources now to lock Jackson in and can then make a call on Darcy in 2 years time.

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

I can’t see Carlton giving up TDK this year. They’ll hope to either play the 2 rucks or give him a chance to win the starting job next year.

If that doesn’t happen he’ll become a target but that only helps us if we don’t go for a big target this year and wait to get him 

[layzie 34,147]

I'd be putting the chips in on De Koning 

[monoccular 17,607]

2 hours ago, Turner said:

josh corbett who took 17 marks and kicked 4.4 in the suns elim final win over BH is on the radar of the lions to replace mcstay and the dockers to replace lobb, wonder if we'd ask the question as a depth option as well given our talls situation

Any more bio on Josh Corbett? Age. Height? Weight? “Plays like?”

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd be putting the chips in on De Koning 

Would you to make such a compelling and early offer that puts us ahead of 16 other teams and the good likelihood that he stays at Carlton? Plus be willing to wait until 2024. 

He’s a big talent but I wouldn’t be that level of chips in. Not when we’ll need useful solutions for next year.

[adonski 12,611]

De Koning could play as a pure fwd I reckon 

[BDA 22,957]

Surely Carlton don't lose De Koning. Is he looking for a big pay rise?

If the opportunity is there we should go for it. A better option then Grundy you would think (and i'm not against brining Grundy in for the right price)

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

Carlton are crazy if they let TDK go, they dont even have a ruckman

[Lucifers Hero 40,472]

4 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Carlton are crazy if they let TDK go, they dont even have a ruckman

Pittonet doesn't go too badly. 

[layzie 34,147]

56 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Would you to make such a compelling and early offer that puts us ahead of 16 other teams and the good likelihood that he stays at Carlton? Plus be willing to wait until 2024. 

He’s a big talent but I wouldn’t be that level of chips in. Not when we’ll need useful solutions for next year.

If he's at all gettable I'd be going for him over Grundy that's for sure. 

[monoccular 17,607]

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

Got serious potential this kid, just turned 23. Surprised Geelong aren't linked to him.

Way too young.  

49 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Carlton are crazy if they let TDK go, they dont even have a ruckman

They could resurrect Kruzer