Demonland 74,529 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 50. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) 49. Bailey Dale (Western Bulldogs) 48. Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs) 47. Touk Miller (Gold Coast) 46. Jordan De Goey (Collingwood) 45. Jordan Ridley (Essendon) 44. Aliir Aliir (Port Adelaide) 43. Christian Salem (Melbourne) 42. Rory Laird (Adelaide) 41. Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs) 40. Jacob Weitering (Carlton) 39. Travis Boak (Port Adelaide) 38. Luke Parker (Sydney) 37. Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney) 36. Charlie Cameron (Brisbane Lions ) 35. Jeremy Cameron (Geelong) 34. Isaac Heeney (Sydney) 33. Josh Kelly (Greater Western Sydney) 32. Max King (St Kilda) 31. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn) 30. Patrick Cripps (Carlton) 29. Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) 28. Lance Franklin (Sydney) 27. Shai Bolton (Richmond) 26. Jake Stringer (Essendon) 25. Zak Butters (Port Adelaide) 24. Darcy Moore (Collingwood) 23. Tom Papley (Sydney) 22. Darcy Parish (Essendon) 21. Steven May (Melbourne) 20. Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane) 19. Nic Naitanui (West Coast) 18. Jack Steele (St Kilda) 17. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle) 16. Jake Lever (Melbourne) 15. Tom Stewart (Geelong) 14. Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney) 13. Harry McKay (Carlton) 12. Zach Merrett (Essendon) 11. Tom Hawkins (Geelong) 10. Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide) 9. Lachie Neale (Brisbane) 8. Sam Walsh (Carlton) 7. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong) 6. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs) 5. Max Gawn (Melbourne) 4. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne) 3. Dustin Martin (Richmond) 2. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs) 1. Christian Petracca (Melbourne) 1 2 Quote
Davos 937 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 I think most of these lists in the lead up to the season will have Petracca as #1, but I think if you polled Melbourne fans most would have Oliver as our best. Is his dominance somehow underappreciated amongst the football media? 19 Quote
chook fowler 19,783 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 I reckon Dangerfield is massively overrated 17 1 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, chook fowler said: I reckon Dangerfield is massively overrated past laurels for sure. 6 Quote
mauriesy 7,445 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 Christian Salem still underrated. 17 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,758 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 It's funny that he has Papley at 23 and he kicked 43 goals last year, where Pickett kicked 40 and isn't even in the top 50. Not sure how Fritsch doesn't make it either, after kicking 59 goals for the season. 19 Quote
Ollie fan 3,672 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 Jeremy Cameron at 35? Based on what? His stellar season last year???? 2 2 1 1 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,113 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Just Cal’s opinion, but… Would be interested to know what it is based on - body of work, last year, peak performance, potential? Also, wouldn’t all Australian count for something? Club b and f finishes? Seems like he just made it up as he felt like it. Edited February 25, 2022 by buck_nekkid 1 Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ollie fan said: Jeremy Cameron at 35? Based on what? His stellar season last year???? Based on running into Lachie Henderson and gifting top spot to the Dees. 1 2 Quote
mauriesy 7,445 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 Disconnect between Champion Data and Twomey! CD Elite Ruckmen (Twomey's ranking) Naitanui (19) Grundy (50) Darcy (--) Hickey (--) CD not elite ruckmen Gawn (5) 1 1 Quote
Chook 15,080 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Davos said: I think most of these lists in the lead up to the season will have Petracca as #1, but I think if you polled Melbourne fans most would have Oliver as our best. Is his dominance somehow underappreciated amongst the football media? IMO it's because Oliver has a face only a supporter or coach could love. Petracca is more marketable, so he gets the wider community's plaudits. 1 1 Quote
Its Time for Another 4,309 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Chook said: IMO it's because Oliver has a face only a supporter or coach could love. Petracca is more marketable, so he gets the wider community's plaudits. I'm a supporter. I don't love Oliver's face. 1 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, chook fowler said: I reckon Dangerfield is massively overrated So is Nic Nat 10 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,411 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 Jordan DeGoey at 46 but no Bayley Fritsch... Have a spell Callum Twomey and stick to reporting on the draft. 4 2 Quote
Flemo56 409 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said: Just Cal’s opinion, but… Would be interested to know what it is based on - body of work, last year, peak performance, potential? Also, wouldn’t all Australian count for something? Club b and f finishes? Seems like he just made it up as he felt like it. it’s based in cal(I better Google him) 2me’s mind I reckon buck. We have a strong argument too have 22 PREMIERSHIP players in any top fifty right now, we have no weaknesses on any line, with depth too back it up. Be humble Dee’s and give it too em all on the field of our dreams. 1 Quote
Demon17 5,268 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, mauriesy said: Christian Salem still underrated. Spot on M. The discussion during the season was often how a team needs to stop Salem (amongst others) to succeed. No-one ever did really, and he had 10 posseis in the GF first 1/4. All effective. Yet rated in the 40's. Go figure. Better than Daniel for sure. 4 Quote
Demon17 5,268 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 5 in the top 21, next best is 3, and some are dubious or based on pre-2021 performance (eg Dusty, Danger) That's the indicator I reckon. Quote
BigFez 1,491 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 These lists are only released to create a bit of discussion, but Zak Butters at 25? Kid could be anything but hasn't done a heap yet. And I think De Goey has played 3 good games in his career (two were against us). 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,713 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: Jordan DeGoey at 46 but no Bayley Fritsch... Have a spell Callum Twomey and stick to reporting on the draft. Not to comment on his quality as a person but De Goey is comfortably a more talented player than Fritsch. His best season at full forward is comparable to Fritsch’s and he can be a 28+ possession inside mid for half a season off little preseason. Fritsch is one of the hardest players in the comp to rank. Personally I’d go with a number of gun midfielders, talls, two way small forwards and elite defenders before I’d get to Fritter. Might find room for him in the 40’s but he needs a second elite season before I’d consider anything like top 40. 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,485 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 No Bailey Fritsch? What a joke? Seriously give yourself the Sack Twomey These people write stuff about AFL, they don’t watch it closely 2 1 Quote
Bang Bang Bang 5,875 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 He is grossly underrating Bayley Fritsch. Robbo had him at 16 in his last list, which was perhaps a fraction high but still much closer to his true standing that not even in the Top 50. LOL! On a wider lens, there is no way in hell seagulls like Merrett and McCrae (and even Walsh if I'm being harsh) are better than Tomahawk and Toby Greene. Quote
DeeSpencer 26,713 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigFez said: These lists are only released to create a bit of discussion, but Zak Butters at 25? Kid could be anything but hasn't done a heap yet. And I think De Goey has played 3 good games in his career (two were against us). I’d say Butters was close to top 50 in 2020. Cal’s betting on him resuming that trajectory. But it does seem inflammatory that he’s skipped the 30’s and 40’s and lobbed him in at 25 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,746 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Parish is overrated at # 22 as it is based on 2/3 of last season when other key mids (Shiel and McGrath) weren't playing. He will be a good player but needs to put in that performance for a few years to deserve a ranking in the top 3% of players. Edited February 25, 2022 by Lucifers Hero Quote
4_Kent_Watts 898 Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Its Time for Back to Back said: I'm a supporter. I don't love Oliver's face. So you just go for the personality then. 2 Quote
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