19 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Why are we thinking LJ wants to go to Perth??

because we are melbourne supporters and we assume players want to leave.

no idea myself why he would want to leave.  we have 6+ WA players on the list. they are grown men and can do without their parents im sure

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

because we are melbourne supporters and we assume players want to leave.

no idea myself why he would want to leave.  we have 6+ WA players on the list. they are grown men and can do without their parents im sure

It’s reported that’s he’s incredibly close/inseparable to one of his WA based brothers.

On 5/31/2022 at 12:31 PM, Redleg said:

Have a look at the Casey game, it was a replica of ours, except that Frankston kicked poorly for goal in the second half.

Daw pulled out ill on the morning.

JVR also

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It’s reported that’s he’s incredibly close/inseparable to one of his WA based brothers.

Then find a job for that brother in Melbourne and bring him over. 

8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It’s reported that’s he’s incredibly close/inseparable to one of his WA based brothers.

He’s been separated from his ‘incredibly close/inseparable’ brothers for nearly 3 years!🙄

Get the whole family over, can his brother play footy, table tennis, golf, x-box or cricket he will fit right in. Comeon Dazzle let’s remove the obstacles, let’s get it done.✅✅

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10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It’s reported that’s he’s incredibly close/inseparable to one of his WA based brothers.

First time I've heard that one.  Where and by whom was it reported?

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

He’s been separated from his ‘incredibly close/inseparable’ brothers for nearly 3 years!🙄

If he goes he goes just get 1st round picks for him, unfortunately we will lose some players who will want to be traded to get a game somewhere else next year so I guess get the max amount of picks while we can in the draft.

2 hours ago, joeboy said:

He’s been separated from his ‘incredibly close/inseparable’ brothers for nearly 3 years!🙄

And how’s his form been this year?

17 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

And how’s his form been this year?

Hmm ordinary I would say still he has a few mates. The acid will come on in September if he has not made a decision by then we will know he is off. 

28 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

And how’s his form been this year?

very good til he had covid, and tapered off since

statistically still a stronger season than last year...

17 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Not a chance we’d get that bounty for Jackson, irrespective of WA born Allen agreeing to leave his home state.

Oscar Allen is an absolute gun when injury free while LJ has battled to take 2 marks a game this year.

It would be closer to a straight swap with WC giving us a sweetener.

Honestly, you swing into full-blown pessimism faster than anyone.

Oscar Allen is a talented but largely unproven player.

Luke Jackson went a long way to winning us a Grand Final.

Was in a better negotiating position  four or five weeks ago.

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Was in a better negotiating position  four or five weeks ago.

Absolutely agreed.

Neither West Coast or Melbourne are entitled to offer this bloke marquee money if he’s indeed asking for it.

When he rucks, we lose clearance and midfield ascendancy.

When he plays as a 3rd key forward, he can’t take a mark for someone of his imposing height. He’s averaging only 2 marks a game since Anzac eve.

He was a major let down last week in a close loss to Sydney.

 

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9 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Luke Jackson went a long way to winning us a Grand Final.

We won the GF easily.

He was a contributor to a fantastic historic win. I’m sure we would’ve quite easily won the game without his services. We had 21 other excellent performers that day that would’ve got the job done without his influence in the 3rd qtr.

 

13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We won the GF easily.

He was a contributor to a fantastic historic win. I’m sure we would’ve quite easily won the game without his services. We had 21 other excellent performers that day that would’ve got the job done without his influence in the 3rd qtr.

 

Rubbish 

you severely underestimate his work in the 3rd Quarter 

14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Rubbish 

you severely underestimate his work in the 3rd Quarter 

As I posted above, he was a contributor in the 3rd quarter.

But we won by a very large margin. It wasn’t just he that turned the table. How amazing were Brayshaw, Trac, Oliver and Viney in addition to Jackson in that 3rd qtr.

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14 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

As I posted above, he was a contributor in the 3rd quarter.

But we won by a very large margin. It wasn’t just he that turned the table. How amazing were Brayshaw, Trac, Oliver and Viney in addition to Jackson in that 3rd qtr.

It was Jackson who changed the game if you watched more carefully 

His work with Viney was exceptional 

It was they who got the ball out, time and time again and Broke the Dogs completely 

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Absolutely agreed.

Neither West Coast or Melbourne are entitled to offer this bloke marquee money if he’s indeed asking for it.

When he rucks, we lose clearance and midfield ascendancy.

When he plays as a 3rd key forward, he can’t take a mark for someone of his imposing height. He’s averaging only 2 marks a game since Anzac eve.

He was a major let down last week in a close loss to Sydney.

 

You are wrong BBP snd are just too stubborn to sdmit LJ's role in the 3rd quarter. That was the game winning period and crucial time.

Last  quarter  just about margin.

Like fans 2/3 years ago " we won't miss Clarry or Trac  if we clear them for draft picks" !!!!!! Some delusional D/Lers wanted this !! 

The brain power of denial is sad and ridiculous to even contemplate this logic. 

Dogga  is a generational player who contributes team wise and individually superbly for his team and would be missed greatly if he leaves. 

 

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We won the GF easily.

He was a contributor to a fantastic historic win. I’m sure we would’ve quite easily won the game without his services. We had 21 other excellent performers that day that would’ve got the job done without his influence in the 3rd qtr.

 

This is severely off the mark. 

He was a critical component of the momentum swing that got us back in the lead.

We were 1 or 2 goals away from losing the game in the third quarter. 

20 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

And how’s his form been this year?

It’s a bloody tough world isn’t it :- As a 19 year old, you are a key cog in turning a grand final. Backed in to play ruck in the most critical time of the game, ahead of a multi year All Australian ruckman. Fast forward to the next year, and one small mid year form slump, and suddenly you are not valuable anymore.

very very strange thinking. 
 

10 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Was in a better negotiating position  four or five weeks ago.

tbf that was when he caught covid.  We don't know how severe it was and it may be a slow recovery for him.

Hopefully the 9 days without a game help recharge the batteries not only for him but all the players that were ill with covid or whatever it was that swept through the club 3 weeks ago.

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1 hour ago, 58er said:

You are wrong BBP snd are just too stubborn to sdmit LJ's role in the 3rd quarter. That was the game winning period and crucial time.

Last  quarter  just about margin.

Like fans 2/3 years ago " we won't miss Clarry or Trac  if we clear them for draft picks" !!!!!! Some delusional D/Lers wanted this !! 

The brain power of denial is sad and ridiculous to even contemplate this logic. 

Dogga  is a generational player who contributes team wise and individually superbly for his team and would be missed greatly if he leaves. 

 

Here is the lead up to every goal in the third quarter and you and other posters tell me whether Jackson was a contributor or the key reason why we won the flag:

Goal 1 - Harmes intercepts, passes to Fritta for his set shot goal.

Goal 2 - Oliver centre  clearance from a sloppy bit of play from Stef Martin. Fritta on the end of it for a goal.

Goal 3 - Trac clearance from a marginal hitout win from Jackson, for a BBB mark and goal. Trac gets all the credit for his blazing clerance.

At this point BT asks Daisy "What's gotten MFC back in the game"'

Pearce: They've rediscovered their dare, they're prepared to take the game on in the middle. Viney crashing packs etc.

Pearce makes no mention of Jackson's influence to get us on level pecking.

Goal 4 - Bowey's nice pass to Brayshaw from an inspirational tackle by Kozzie on Weightman. Angus nails a legendry set shot to put us in front.

At the 3:35 mins left mark, Jackson gives away a free after a centre bounce to potentially halt our momentum.

Goal 5 - BBB's long kick inside 50. Trac picks up an unmarked ball near the boundary for a goal.

Goal 6 - English wins hitout. Viney wins contested possession, handballs to Trac, to Olicer to Sparrow for a long goal.

Goal 7 - Jacksons lovely clearance to Oliver for a another long goal. Outstanding play by LJ.

 

My contention is that Jackson's influence in the third quarter is a little overblown and we had many other players who did just as much as him to get us back into the game.

 

And that his 2022 season has been underwhelming as evidenced by being named on the extended bench last Thursday which I'm reading it as a wake up call for him.

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47 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Here is the lead up to every goal in the third quarter and you and other posters tell me whether Jackson was a contributor or the key reason why we won the flag:

Goal 1 - Harmes intercepts, passes to Fritta for his set shot goal.

Goal 2 - Oliver centre  clearance from a sloppy bit of play from Stef Martin. Fritta on the end of it for a goal.

Goal 3 - Trac clearance from a marginal hitout win from Jackson, for a BBB mark and goal. Trac gets all the credit for his blazing clerance.

At this point BT asks Daisy "What's gotten MFC back in the game"'

Pearce: They've rediscovered their dare, they're prepared to take the game on in the middle. Viney crashing packs etc.

Pearce makes no mention of Jackson's influence to get us on level pecking.

Goal 4 - Bowey's nice pass to Brayshaw from an inspirational tackle by Kozzie on Weightman. Angus nails a legendry set shot to put us in front.

At the 3:35 mins left mark, Jackson gives away a free after a centre bounce to potentially halt our momentum.

Goal 5 - BBB's long kick inside 50. Trac picks up an unmarked ball near the boundary for a goal.

Goal 6 - English wins hitout. Viney wins contested possession, handballs to Trac, to Olicer to Sparrow for a long goal.

Goal 7 - Jacksons lovely clearance to Oliver for a another long goal. Outstanding play by LJ.

 

My contention is that Jackson's influence in the third quarter is a little overblown and we had many other players who did just as much as him to get us back into the game.

 

And that his 2022 season has been underwhelming as evidenced by being named on the extended bench last Thursday which I'm reading it as a wake up call for him.

I am going to believe my lying eyes. He was so good the 5x All Australian  , Premiership Captain was the 2nd best ruck in the game.

It was like playing with four power mids in there in the last 10 mins of the 3rd.

Perhaps the most telling indication of his influence in the GF third quarter was Goodwin, Gawn and Burgess agreeing to leave him in the ruck.