Jump to content

Featured Replies

 
 

I remember the Jack Watts/Nik Nat draft and thinking that we had to take Watts as there was no way we could hold onto Natanui as he would go back home. I still believe this. However if that draft was today you’d take him every time. We have come a long, long way. 

Who else just jumped straight over to melbournefc.com.au to see if the news had dropped yet?

@Dwight Schrute - Still at the Canberra Times ( /Warrnambool Standard - yes, really!) reportage level or has it got a bit more (Dogga) meat on it now?

 
3 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

@Dwight Schrute - Still at the Canberra Times ( /Warrnambool Standard - yes, really!) reportage level or has it got a bit more (Dogga) meat on it now?

I believe it's still just the Canberra Times reportage from October 11th filtering through to social media and people reading it as gospel. Not saying it's not true but nothing has been confirmed nor has there been any other whispers except from that CT article screenshotted below.

Screenshot 2021-10-14 at 09-55-59 The chase is on to catch the Melbourne Demons in 2022.png


10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The screenshot above mentions The West Australian but I was not able to find anything in any article from the The West Australian reporting about Jackson being on the verge of committing long term or being joined by his parents.

If the joined by his parents part is true then that is huge.

Pretty sure it’s referring to him, being West Australian…not the newspaper.

Don't want to be a party pooper, but honestly, I don't get too excited about the length of these signings these days, because anything further than 2 years out is almost meaningless.  All signing him up beyond 2022 will acheive right now is to reduce some of the media chatter and speculation early next season.  Come 2023 or even late 2022, if things arn't looking rosy for any of the respective parties and the talk will start again.  As seen with Bobby Hill, Lobbe and Lauchie Neil and closer to home, Jessy Hogan, players are increasingly requesting trades inside their contacted period.

About the only thing having them contracted does is give the club slightly better leverage for extracting a reasonable trade in the instance they want out.

Best way of retaining Dogga is keep winning and keep him happy.  I think Dogga is also shrewd in recognising the value of playing with and learning from Max over the next few years.  All these things should be a win/win for the MFC and the individuals involved, so I put more weight on that than any contract that's announced.

15 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Don't want to be a party pooper, but honestly, I don't get too excited about the length of these signings these days, because anything further than 2 years out is almost meaningless.  All signing him up beyond 2022 will acheive right now is to reduce some of the media chatter and speculation early next season.  Come 2023 or even late 2022, if things arn't looking rosy for any of the respective parties and the talk will start again.  As seen with Bobby Hill, Lobbe and Lauchie Neil and closer to home, Jessy Hogan, players are increasingly requesting trades inside their contacted period.

About the only thing having them contracted does is give the club slightly better leverage for extracting a reasonable trade in the instance they want out.

Best way of retaining Dogga is keep winning and keep him happy.  I think Dogga is also shrewd in recognising the value of playing with and learning from Max over the next few years.  All these things should be a win/win for the MFC and the individuals involved, so I put more weight on that than any contract that's announced.

True. But what it does do is provide protection for the club, as we either don't have to trade or can ask for a hefty price or no deal.

It's better to have a contract in place than not.

Hugh McCluggage led the competition for goal assists in 2021 with an average of 1.29 per game.  That average placed him in the top 10 ever for a season (since they've been keeping records).  Only 11 players this year averaged at least 1.0 per game.

Jackson had 4 in the GF, which is the most for the year.  A teenage ruck did that in a GF.  He's a remarkable talent who's as clean as you'd ever see below his knees.


28 minutes ago, Demonland said:

A big  🤦‍♂️ for me and my comprehension skills.

Also I can never get back the time I wasted trawling The West Australian newspaper.

That's on the CT, they should refer to him as a Western Australian, given he comes from the state of Western Australia and not West Australia....

32 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Don't want to be a party pooper, but honestly, I don't get too excited about the length of these signings these days, because anything further than 2 years out is almost meaningless.  All signing him up beyond 2022 will acheive right now is to reduce some of the media chatter and speculation early next season.  Come 2023 or even late 2022, if things arn't looking rosy for any of the respective parties and the talk will start again.  As seen with Bobby Hill, Lobbe and Lauchie Neil and closer to home, Jessy Hogan, players are increasingly requesting trades inside their contacted period.

About the only thing having them contracted does is give the club slightly better leverage for extracting a reasonable trade in the instance they want out.

Best way of retaining Dogga is keep winning and keep him happy.  I think Dogga is also shrewd in recognising the value of playing with and learning from Max over the next few years.  All these things should be a win/win for the MFC and the individuals involved, so I put more weight on that than any contract that's announced.

I understand your points RG and I agree but after the Hogan saga I think we would all prefer Jackson to be signed and sealed as oppose to a another year of media speculation in VIC and WA.

 

Edited by Jibroni

Just to add on to this, I’ve got firm mail from inside the club telling me a long contract will be made public next week. Apparently Dogga’s agent is also Jordan Clark’s, so he’s been pretty busy sorting out his contract first. 
I only made my demonland account this year, but I was going to do it around this time last year (but couldn’t be bothered in the end) as my same source told me Hannan was out the door about a week before anyone in the media or demonland had a sniff of it. My mate doesn’t give me much mail, but when he does it’s very solid.
Just to actually add on to that, it was less of Hannan really wanting to leave, and more toward Goody just not really rating him. 

Who would have thunk it.

Here we are worried about a young star going home interstate and guess what, he brings home to melbourne instead.

To see Lukes mum absolutely ecstatic and dressed in complete red and blue says volumes.

Just between you and me I think Luke may have told his mum what a great place the MFC is at the moment.

How the heck did we do that?

4 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Who would have thunk it.

Here we are worried about a young star going home interstate and guess what, he brings home to melbourne instead.

To see Lukes mum absolutely ecstatic and dressed in complete red and blue says volumes.

Just between you and me I think Luke may have told his mum what a great place the MFC is at the moment.

How the heck did we do that?

There is the benchmark for other clubs:- rather than have players moving back home, be in that good a shape, that players families move to you!

 


1 hour ago, Click_Bate said:

Just to add on to this, I’ve got firm mail from inside the club telling me a long contract will be made public next week. Apparently Dogga’s agent is also Jordan Clark’s, so he’s been pretty busy sorting out his contract first. 
I only made my demonland account this year, but I was going to do it around this time last year (but couldn’t be bothered in the end) as my same source told me Hannan was out the door about a week before anyone in the media or demonland had a sniff of it. My mate doesn’t give me much mail, but when he does it’s very solid.
Just to actually add on to that, it was less of Hannan really wanting to leave, and more toward Goody just not really rating him. 

Gary Lyon also mentioned the exact same information…

2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Don't want to be a party pooper, but honestly, I don't get too excited about the length of these signings these days, because anything further than 2 years out is almost meaningless.  All signing him up beyond 2022 will acheive right now is to reduce some of the media chatter and speculation early next season.  Come 2023 or even late 2022, if things arn't looking rosy for any of the respective parties and the talk will start again.  As seen with Bobby Hill, Lobbe and Lauchie Neil and closer to home, Jessy Hogan, players are increasingly requesting trades inside their contacted period.

About the only thing having them contracted does is give the club slightly better leverage for extracting a reasonable trade in the instance they want out.

Best way of retaining Dogga is keep winning and keep him happy.  I think Dogga is also shrewd in recognising the value of playing with and learning from Max over the next few years.  All these things should be a win/win for the MFC and the individuals involved, so I put more weight on that than any contract that's announced.

Nothing lasts forever but in recent years we've told Watts to find a new home, gently suggested Hogan move back to Perth and then let fringe players in Preuss, Frost, Hannan and Kent find better deals elsewhere (and tried to do the same with McDonald and ANB).

Most of our core - Gawn, Salem, Lever, Brayshaw haven't ever been linked anywhere else. Viney had a tricky free agency decision to make but recommitted. Petracca wanted to play more midfield, the club very calmly said get fit and you'll be in the guts, he did and he's been as happy as can be since. Oliver clearly went through some stuff last year, Goody and the club didn't panic, they knew a fresh set of assistant coaches and the team bouncing back would take care of that.

If Jackson's family really do relocate to Melbourne then that mostly takes care of the go home factor which is still the biggest draw card for a lot of trades. Look at Dawson and Cerra, the only big names to move this year. After that then yeah it's a matter of him getting his development as a player and person right and the club holding up their end of the bargain.

As I said, nothing is forever, but if he signed on for 4 more years I think a fair bit would have to go wrong for him not be at the club for at least 3. And judging by our recent moves we've been pretty good at working out who should stay.

 

So when is Trent's family moving?

 
4 hours ago, Deestar9 said:

Gary Lyon also mentioned the exact same information…

Maybe I just thought demonlanders would like even more confirmation from inside the club? Seems to be the case doesn’t it? I don’t know what Gary Lyon said, only what what’s being said within the club. Would of thought the more people posting what they know from contacts inside the club the better. 

16 minutes ago, Click_Bate said:

Maybe I just thought demonlanders would like even more confirmation from inside the club? Seems to be the case doesn’t it? I don’t know what Gary Lyon said, only what what’s being said within the club. Would of thought the more people posting what they know from contacts inside the club the better. 

Hmm thought it was just a confirmation of what you had reported…Gary merely mentioned that the conversation he had had in Perth was exactly what you reported…so surely that’s an affirmation of your post ??


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Gold Coast

    The Gold Coast Suns find themselves outside of the top eight for the first time since Round 1 with pressure is mounting on the entire organisation. Their coach Damien Hardwick expressed his frustration at his team’s condition last week by making a middle-finger gesture on television that earned him a fine for his troubles. He showed his desperation by claiming that Fox should pick up the tab.  There’s little doubt the Suns have shown improvement in 2025, and their position on the ladder is influenced to some extent by having played fewer games than their rivals for a playoff role at the end of the season, courtesy of the disruption caused by Cyclone Alfred in March.  However, they are following the same trajectory that hindered the club in past years whenever they appeared to be nearing their potential. As a consequence, that Hardwick gesture should be considered as more than a mere behavioral lapse. It’s a distress signal that does not bode well for the Queenslanders. While the Suns are eager to remain in contention with the top eight, Melbourne faces its own crisis, which is similarly deep-seated but in a much different way. After recovering from a disappointing start to the season and nearing a return to respectability among its peer clubs, the Demons have experienced a decline in status, driven by the fact that while their form has been reasonable (see their performance against the ladder leader in the Kings Birthday match), their conversion in front of goal is poor enough to rank last in the competition. Furthermore, their opponents find them exceptionally easy to score against. As a result, they have effectively eliminated themselves from the finals race and are again positioned to finish in the bottom half of the ladder.

    • 4 replies
  • NON-MFC: Round 15

    As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 280 replies
  • REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

    • 3 replies
  • CASEY: Essendon

    Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Gold Coast

    The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

      • Sad
      • Thumb Down
      • Like
    • 294 replies
  • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 33 replies