PF: Melbourne vs Geelong

[Watson11 2,241]

22 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

The above comment might have been meant as a throw away line  but...

The pressure is huge on Scott and to a lesser degree some biggish names  - Gary Rohan I'm looking at you.

A geelong loss is not worth thinking about for them, the ramifications and headlines will be screaming about cats, Thompson handed him a Flag team etc., wasted year again.....

Its all true of course. 

He inherited a great team that has been underachieivng all decade, if flags are the objective as they say.

But hats off if they do win - it will be against all the odds .

 

This week's taking forever so to pass time I dug a bit into Geelong's non GMBH/Simonds record under Scott since 2011 and their finals record (below in brackets) in the same year.  They really have probably been a 5th to 10th team most years away from GMBH stadium, so their finals record is not that surprising. Ironically this year and 2016 are the only years they have performed at top 4 level away from home (and barely top 4 level).  

2011 13-2 (3-0)

2012 8-7 (0-1)

2013 11-5 (1-2)

2014 10-5 (0-2)

2015 6-6-1 (DNQ)

2016 10-4 (1-1)

2017 8-6-1 (1-2)

2018 5-9 (0-1)

2019 9-7 (1-2)

2020 12-6 (2-2)

2021 9-4 (1-1)

2016 they won a QF (by 2 points), but they got spanked in the prelim by Sydney who finished top (11 goals to 2 at half time).  Let's do the same this week.

[Demonland 73,139]

 

[Demonland 73,139]

There are still more tickets available if you missed out.

 

[GoD's67 111]

21 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

2016 they won a QF (by 2 points), but they got spanked in the prelim by Sydney who finished top (11 goals to 2 at half time).  Let's do the same this week.

To be 9 goals in front of Cats at half time would be very sweet on Friday night!

While very disappointed to not be at the Footy on Friday night, I would be delighted if I could relive one of my three favourite finals memories:

- 87 Night Grand Final when we beat Bombers by a point (I know not a real final but at that stage was the closest we had gone to a final in 23 years)

- 87 Elimination final when we beat North by over 100 points (I recall being deliriously happy)

- 2018 Elimination final beating the Cats (Joy of beating smug Cats)

Having been waiting for 52 years of supporting the Demons, winning Friday night would be fantastic to just give us a shot at a flag, and beating the Cats would be that little bit sweeter, also with the knowledge that we would go into GF with a big chance, different to those most recent GF experiences of 88 & 2000!

To all the Demon supporters going on Friday night, add a bit extra voice to your support of the Demons on Friday night on behalf of all Vic and other Demon supporters who can't be at Optus in person! 

GO DEMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

58 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

This week's taking forever so to pass time I dug a bit into Geelong's non GMBH/Simonds record under Scott since 2011 and their finals record (below in brackets) in the same year.  They really have probably been a 5th to 10th team most years away from GMBH stadium, so their finals record is not that surprising. Ironically this year and 2016 are the only years they have performed at top 4 level away from home (and barely top 4 level).  

2011 13-2 (3-0)

2012 8-7 (0-1)

2013 11-5 (1-2)

2014 10-5 (0-2)

2015 6-6-1 (DNQ)

2016 10-4 (1-1)

2017 8-6-1 (1-2)

2018 5-9 (0-1)

2019 9-7 (1-2)

2020 12-6 (2-2)

2021 9-4 (1-1)

2016 they won a QF (by 2 points), but they got spanked in the prelim by Sydney who finished top (11 goals to 2 at half time).  Let's do the same this week.

They are also 2-4 against top 8 sides away from GMHBA (including finals).

Their record against top 8 sides this year (including finals) is 5-6.

By comparison, us against top 8 sides away from the MCG this year we are 6-0

Our record against top 8 sides this year no matter what ground, is  9-2 (including finals)

 

Edited September 8, 2021 by At the break of Gawn

[Guest]

Channel 7 news at 6pm will be showing a piece about the Stynes family with a touching tribute for the finals.

❤️💙💕❤️💙

Edited September 8, 2021 by WalkingCivilWar

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

On 9/6/2021 at 11:08 AM, In Harmes Way said:

Did you get an approval on your G2G form submission?

Nope

[DubDee 26,117]

3 hours ago, Watson11 said:

This week's taking forever so to pass time I dug a bit into Geelong's non GMBH/Simonds record under Scott since 2011 and their finals record (below in brackets) in the same year.  They really have probably been a 5th to 10th team most years away from GMBH stadium, so their finals record is not that surprising. Ironically this year and 2016 are the only years they have performed at top 4 level away from home (and barely top 4 level).  

2011 13-2 (3-0)

2012 8-7 (0-1)

2013 11-5 (1-2)

2014 10-5 (0-2)

2015 6-6-1 (DNQ)

2016 10-4 (1-1)

2017 8-6-1 (1-2)

2018 5-9 (0-1)

2019 9-7 (1-2)

2020 12-6 (2-2)

2021 9-4 (1-1)

2016 they won a QF (by 2 points), but they got spanked in the prelim by Sydney who finished top (11 goals to 2 at half time).  Let's do the same this week.

So their record in the last 10 years is 7-14 in finals with zero flags.  ouch

9 finals campaigns and only one GF.    they have had sustained success to a degree but they have not yet proven they can beat the draft/equalisation model.  and I hope they never do

[stinga 585]

I hope hunt is fit.  We'll run over Geelong in the last quarter (They always fade towards the end as the older players struggle).  We need his run more than Hibbo's bulk.

[P-man 13,366]

I’m not sure I’ve ever felt more pumped for a game than this. This is intense.

[dazzledavey36 55,316]

 

[Demon17 5,202]

50 minutes ago, DubDee said:

So their record in the last 10 years is 7-14 in finals with zero flags.  ouch

9 finals campaigns and only one GF.    they have had sustained success to a degree but they have not yet proven they can beat the draft/equalisation model.  and I hope they never do

Beaten in 5 of their last 6 prelims.

 

[Bates Mate 4,508]

38 minutes ago, stinga said:

I hope hunt is fit.  We'll run over Geelong in the last quarter (They always fade towards the end as the older players struggle).  We need his run more than Hibbo's bulk.

I think we need hibbos ability to play tall and small more than hunts run. Hibbo can still run it off half back although he had lost a yard. Having Bowey offsets any worry about run  as his kicking is elite and an executed kick moves faster than any player can run

[Smokey 4,389]

On 9/7/2021 at 7:23 PM, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Getting a little nervous here... 

Going to throw a couple of early week 🍻 at it and hope for the best

❤💙

Mate I’m doing the exact same. Cheers 🍻

[640MD 3,426]

I am confident we will win. Not concerned about 2018, we are not facing west coast and the home crowd factor.

I am concerned that we might sit back like witches hats at training and watch jeelong kick multiple goals like couple of weeks ago. They will not allow such a cone back again. So hard at it all game. 
 

we have been the best team all year, this week and the GF it is time to prove it for all to see. If we wait much longer RDB will be too frail to pass the cup or raise the flag. 
 

I do like having the whole list being part of the build up, whether they make the team list or not. And I like the past players putting in a bit of input as well. All about developing a culture that lasts.  We are the administration, the players, the past players and the whole supporters base. 
it’s our time.  Not a walk in the park but I really think it’s ours to lose if we do not dare to dream.  We have the players with the ability.
Dare to dream dare to win. Go Dees 

[WERRIDEE 5,503]

AFL.com has Hibberd and Hunt in for Smith and Bowey. Why would Bowey be dropped? He's been great. Surely Hibberd doesn't have to come in Hunt can play the role on Rohan.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

1 hour ago, stinga said:

I hope hunt is fit.  We'll run over Geelong in the last quarter (They always fade towards the end as the older players struggle).  We need his run more than Hibbo's bulk.

Much as you might expect this to be the case, it isn't true.

Geelong won 14 of 22 fourth quarters in the H&A season. That was one more than us.

They are actually slow starters, only winning 9 first quarters in the H&A season (we won 13).

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

I’ve noticed that the media narrative this week regarding Melbourne has all been about “dare to dream” and the hope to break the 57 year drought, while for the few articles regarding Geelong and any player interviews are all about “how will you stop Melbourne?” etc. Just seems the external expectation on Melbourne is 10x that of Geelong. 
 

A silver lining in this final series for us is being in a hub and not being distracted by all the external pressure.

[dworship 3,342]

10 hours ago, Cards13 said:

I think the break from playing will have done Hibbo the world of good, he is a very good player on his day who had a couple of down weeks this season. I think he'll be fitter and faster after spending some time with Burgo and co, hopefully the fumbles have gone as well. 

To be fair though while Hibs kept him down as such it was Franklin's first game back from an injury lay off.

It's a game where Hibbo might have to take one for the team if he is selected. Hope it doesn't come to that of course.

[dworship 3,342]

7 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I’ve noticed that the media narrative this week regarding Melbourne has all been about “dare to dream” and the hope to break the 57 year drought, while for the few articles regarding Geelong and any player interviews are all about “how will you stop Melbourne?” etc. Just seems the external expectation on Melbourne is 10x that of Geelong. 
 

A silver lining in this final series for us is being in a hub and not being distracted by all the external pressure.

While I agree with you, I don't think the players will be immune to the support coming their way. All Australians love an underdog and I know we're not that on current form but we are in the sense of 57yrs of history. I've had a look at how the Cats are promoting  support in WA and it is nothing by comparison to what the MFC are doing. I think the Cats are going to get a big shock about how much the crowd will be behind Melbourne and we have first hand experience of what that is like in a negative sense. Will be fabulous to see the shoe on the other foot after we have been sent down the highway to ****tt park for so many years.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

16 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I’ve noticed that the media narrative this week regarding Melbourne has all been about “dare to dream” and the hope to break the 57 year drought, while for the few articles regarding Geelong and any player interviews are all about “how will you stop Melbourne?” etc. Just seems the external expectation on Melbourne is 10x that of Geelong. 
 

A silver lining in this final series for us is being in a hub and not being distracted by all the external pressure.

Granted the sentiment appears to be that we are expected to win but there is an emerging narrative that the Cats maybe on their last life and that would be just as much if not more pressure for the Cats.

They are old, growing slower, recovery taking longer, preseasons not getting any easier etc whilst we have the best part of 5 years with the current group and probably longer if we recruit right, that should challenge again in the years to come.

[KLV 1,768]

9 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

It is so imperative we beat the Cats on Friday just to peg this man down a notch. He’s complained all year, made ridiculous excuses for Geelong’s performances at every turn, and made disrespectful comments such as his team didn’t care about winning because there was no home final on offer after they lost to us.

Now he’s come out and bagged Larkins after scoffing at Stewart‘s extremely unlikely return from a serious lisfranc injury which at times has forced players into early retirement. Please for the good of the game, Dees - put this man back in his box.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675042/maybe-hes-an-entertainer-geelong-coach-chris-scott-on-dr-peter-larkins-tom-stewart-call

Scott says some pretty dumb things for an intelligent person. So reactive. 
Just ignore Chris. Deep breath, aah, that’s better isn’t it?

Edited September 8, 2021 by KLV
Finishing a sentence!

[Lord Travis 10,763]

We’ll win this.

[hells bells 2,023]

Things I want.

1. a reasonable run with the umpires

2. to kick accurately for goal

[faultydet 7,619]

1 minute ago, hells bells said:

Things I want.

1. a reasonable run with the umpires

2. to kick accurately for goal

3. To be in front after the last point is scored.