1 hour ago, one_demon said:

This year the players have been one big family.   I would hate to see it broken up.

Kids do grow up and move out.

The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done.

Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton.

13 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

I don't doubt Cerra is a talented player.

For me it's about role and team balance. Petracca has publically praised both Spaz and Jordan as allowing him to be a better player for the roles they play on the team. 

Will be interesting to see where Cerra fits in the team if he does come.

For me it all depends on the price we need to pay Freo and how it affects the team. But I will say I trust out FD, if we are chasing Cerra there is a good reason for it.

Interesting times.

Our side has added a number of players May, Lever, B Brown, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham that have made us better and those players have added to the culture of the club.

Jones has retired, Jetta will most likely do the same, AVB is borderline, TMac gets a new deal that we all expect is deferring some cash.  We have a list that can have sustained success, this year is the start we want 5-6 years of finals and premierships.  Cerra would be a great addition, he adds to our midfield and basically replaces Jones on our list.  

We don't need to add kids in this draft, trade picks get Cerra, elevate D Smith to primary list and get Woey Junior with last pick or add the other player from our NGA.  It would be a different story if we thought we could get Mac Andrew as we would need points to cover, with that looking unlikely we can use future first and our first 2 pick this year to try and get something Dockers will accept.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wouldn't. I know both Sparrow and Jordon are rated extremely highly internally, but Cerra is better then them.

Every year you need to find ways to better your list.

Getting Cerra makes our list significantly better.

Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart  and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go).

1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said:

Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart  and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go).

All these guys are worth absolutely nothing.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

All these guys are worth absolutely nothing.

If that's the case, then the Cerra deal, if its to be done, will be with current and future picks, because I'm positive the Club would not trade out Sparrow and Jordon. If it did, then Club culture would be out the door, and greed will have replaced it. And that is not how I see our Club proceeding. But just my thoughts 

2 hours ago, adonski said:

I've heard he's as good as ours from someone who would know (for whatever that's worth)

I have also heard the same. No party wants it be a distraction from our assault on the premiership. Total trust in the club to make it happen. Not something I would have said years ago.

Just bought The Footy Record from the Newsagents. 
(Wish i was buying it at The Ground)

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Just bought The Footy Record from the Newsagents. 
(Wish i was buying it at The Ground)

Have they added Cerra to our full list yet?

35 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart  and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go).

Trades are not all one-sided affairs.

Jordon and Sparrow would not be the first fringe players to leave a top team for opportunity elsewhere?

I hope they both stay as I like them a lot

You’ve got to give something, to get something. And because we know our players better than we know other clubs players, we often put a higher value on the Dees players, than what they would get on the open market

1 hour ago, durango said:

The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done.

Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton.

Change that name to Cloko and i would have agreed, Voss not so much.

Would we listen to offers for Tommlinson? given Petty imo has overtaken him, he'd have some currancy to potentially get one of these deals done

 

2 hours ago, durango said:

The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done.

Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton.

I see it differently.

I'm hazarding a guess that Cerra and his manager have already made up their minds and the desired club knows. Perhaps a nominal agreement has been reached by both clubs, or at least a rough expectation of what each party wants.

Of course, trade week can throw up unexpected outcomes, but most players and clubs want a degree of certainty in advance. Look at the panic and irrationality when Neale supposedly wanted to return to Freo.

I have no idea if Cerra wants to be a Dee, but probably he knows already and I think our chances are pretty good.

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I don't really want him. Our bargaining chip in the Weid has signed on. I'd rather keep Sparrow and Jordon. I don't see what we have to give now. Cerra can rot at Carltank. 

10 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I don't really want him. Our bargaining chip in the Weid has signed on. I'd rather keep Sparrow and Jordon. I don't see what we have to give now. Cerra can rot at Carltank. 

I'm not sure the Weid has the value we may think he was unfortunately. 

Yes, given the Weid had little interest from other clubs, his trade value would make no difference to any deal.

If there are player/s involved we might have to face the prospect they could be playing on Saturday

If he nominates us I'm hoping our current pick 33 and a future 1st might get it done. Don't think that's enough 

21 hours ago, adonski said:

I was told of two young players who may be involved in trades (neither are locks in our best 22, no-one from the 2019 draft trio)

Take it with a grain of salt however, just passing on the message

I hope one of them is not Hunt...😟

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21 hours ago, adonski said:

I was told of two young players who may be involved in trades (neither are locks in our best 22, no-one from the 2019 draft trio)

Take it with a grain of salt however, just passing on the message

It's likely going to have to be someone contracted then, so either someone is going 'home' or we're forcing someone out.

None of the uncontracted players we have at this stage have any trade value.

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I hope one of them is not Hunt...😟

I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back  its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no.  If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. 

28 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back  its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no.  If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. 

Part of me agrees.

My avatar says Noooooooooooo!!

34 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back  its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no.  If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. 

He played every game before injury. Why would he want to leave?

 

Can't see Dogga going. He's more important to our future than Cerra. Enormous upside

Unless Jackson wants to go home, its no effing way

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

I wouldn't trade 2 Cerras for Jackson.