Redleg 42,156 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, one_demon said: This year the players have been one big family. I would hate to see it broken up. Kids do grow up and move out. 2 Quote
durango 2,024 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done. Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton. Quote
drdrake 3,203 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, COVID Dan said: I don't doubt Cerra is a talented player. For me it's about role and team balance. Petracca has publically praised both Spaz and Jordan as allowing him to be a better player for the roles they play on the team. Will be interesting to see where Cerra fits in the team if he does come. For me it all depends on the price we need to pay Freo and how it affects the team. But I will say I trust out FD, if we are chasing Cerra there is a good reason for it. Interesting times. Our side has added a number of players May, Lever, B Brown, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham that have made us better and those players have added to the culture of the club. Jones has retired, Jetta will most likely do the same, AVB is borderline, TMac gets a new deal that we all expect is deferring some cash. We have a list that can have sustained success, this year is the start we want 5-6 years of finals and premierships. Cerra would be a great addition, he adds to our midfield and basically replaces Jones on our list. We don't need to add kids in this draft, trade picks get Cerra, elevate D Smith to primary list and get Woey Junior with last pick or add the other player from our NGA. It would be a different story if we thought we could get Mac Andrew as we would need points to cover, with that looking unlikely we can use future first and our first 2 pick this year to try and get something Dockers will accept. Quote
Neil Crompton 5,852 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said: I wouldn't. I know both Sparrow and Jordon are rated extremely highly internally, but Cerra is better then them. Every year you need to find ways to better your list. Getting Cerra makes our list significantly better. Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go). 1 2 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said: Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go). All these guys are worth absolutely nothing. 10 Quote
Neil Crompton 5,852 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: All these guys are worth absolutely nothing. If that's the case, then the Cerra deal, if its to be done, will be with current and future picks, because I'm positive the Club would not trade out Sparrow and Jordon. If it did, then Club culture would be out the door, and greed will have replaced it. And that is not how I see our Club proceeding. But just my thoughts 3 Quote
Dee Viney Intervention 2,028 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, adonski said: I've heard he's as good as ours from someone who would know (for whatever that's worth) I have also heard the same. No party wants it be a distraction from our assault on the premiership. Total trust in the club to make it happen. Not something I would have said years ago. 5 1 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Just bought The Footy Record from the Newsagents. (Wish i was buying it at The Ground) 8 1 Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Just now, Sir Why You Little said: Just bought The Footy Record from the Newsagents. (Wish i was buying it at The Ground) Have they added Cerra to our full list yet? 2 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said: Sorry daz, but there is no way I'd be trading out Sparrow and Jordon. They have been great role players for us this year, and both show greater potential coming. Why risk this? If Cerra were to nominate us, I'd see the Club using players like Baker, Bedford, Lockhart and Chandler as more likely trade offerings, rather than Sparrow and Jordon. (although I'd hate to see any of them go). Trades are not all one-sided affairs. Jordon and Sparrow would not be the first fringe players to leave a top team for opportunity elsewhere? I hope they both stay as I like them a lot 1 Quote
Matt 424 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 You’ve got to give something, to get something. And because we know our players better than we know other clubs players, we often put a higher value on the Dees players, than what they would get on the open market 3 Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, durango said: The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done. Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton. Change that name to Cloko and i would have agreed, Voss not so much. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Would we listen to offers for Tommlinson? given Petty imo has overtaken him, he'd have some currancy to potentially get one of these deals done Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, durango said: The coach for Carlton is now Voss and I believe he will move heaven or earth to get Cerra because he needs to make the finals in the next 2 years and he needs the midfield cattle to get it done. Voss will try to paint a rosy picture for Cerra and pay a lot more, if Melbourne wins the Grand Final I think Cerra will chose us because our upside will be much higher with him in the side otherwise he will probably chose Carlton. I see it differently. I'm hazarding a guess that Cerra and his manager have already made up their minds and the desired club knows. Perhaps a nominal agreement has been reached by both clubs, or at least a rough expectation of what each party wants. Of course, trade week can throw up unexpected outcomes, but most players and clubs want a degree of certainty in advance. Look at the panic and irrationality when Neale supposedly wanted to return to Freo. I have no idea if Cerra wants to be a Dee, but probably he knows already and I think our chances are pretty good. Edited September 23, 2021 by Stiff Arm 2 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 I don't really want him. Our bargaining chip in the Weid has signed on. I'd rather keep Sparrow and Jordon. I don't see what we have to give now. Cerra can rot at Carltank. 2 Quote
adonski 13,267 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said: I don't really want him. Our bargaining chip in the Weid has signed on. I'd rather keep Sparrow and Jordon. I don't see what we have to give now. Cerra can rot at Carltank. I'm not sure the Weid has the value we may think he was unfortunately. 2 Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Yes, given the Weid had little interest from other clubs, his trade value would make no difference to any deal. If there are player/s involved we might have to face the prospect they could be playing on Saturday If he nominates us I'm hoping our current pick 33 and a future 1st might get it done. Don't think that's enough Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, adonski said: I was told of two young players who may be involved in trades (neither are locks in our best 22, no-one from the 2019 draft trio) Take it with a grain of salt however, just passing on the message I hope one of them is not Hunt...😟 Edited September 23, 2021 by Lucifer's Hero 4 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 21 hours ago, adonski said: I was told of two young players who may be involved in trades (neither are locks in our best 22, no-one from the 2019 draft trio) Take it with a grain of salt however, just passing on the message It's likely going to have to be someone contracted then, so either someone is going 'home' or we're forcing someone out. None of the uncontracted players we have at this stage have any trade value. 1 Quote
Wells 11 5,502 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said: I hope one of them is not Hunt...😟 I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no. If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Wells 11 said: I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no. If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. Part of me agrees. My avatar says Noooooooooooo!! 6 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, Wells 11 said: I love hunt..and Im crossing my fingers he's the medi sub. But if it was Hunt I could live with it. Both sparrow and Jordon feel like bigger losses. When we've watched a player develop and see him finally starting to re become what he showed us a few seasons back its hard to let go. But I think you'd have to agree that losing hunt to bring in Cerra is a def step up. You cant stand still in this game...flags or no. If you're too content and not moving forward you're simply getting passed by other clubs. He played every game before injury. Why would he want to leave? Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 Can't see Dogga going. He's more important to our future than Cerra. Enormous upside Unless Jackson wants to go home, its no effing way 4 Quote
faultydet 7,623 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: I wouldn't trade 2 Cerras for Jackson. 8 Quote
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