Hypotheticals

[Dr. Gonzo 23,723]

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Would you be happy to wait until next year if you were given that luxury when the GF will return to the MCG, but at the expense of either losing the GF or not making the GF this year?

Genuine hypothetical.

Who knows if we'll even have the chance again? If we're in it this year of course I'd want to win, would be great for the players and the club. Then hopefully they can back it up next year, "2021 was for us, 2022 is for the supporters" type of thing. 

If it wasn't such a long drought it wouldn't be an issue, its the fact it's been so long and most supporters have never seen one that makes it stick in the guts.

[Winners at last 5,158]

b & b. Like some others I was at both GFs (1988 & 2000)... they were excruciating. Better not to have made the GFs those years.

 

[Jaded No More 67,772]

100% watch us win a grand final. I would do anything to watch us win one. In person or otherwise. 
 

I would say losing a grand final would be better than a prelim, but both would hurt and feel like a real missed opportunity. 

[Fork 'em 6,940]

55 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Preference order:

1. Watch the Deez win in person
2. Watch the Filth loose in person
3. Watch the Filth loose again on the replay. 

I saw the filth get flogged by the toigs in 1980 when Bartlett kicked 7.
Could bring your eskies full of grog back then and standing room had to be there from about 8am to get a decent spot.
Overlooked from the 1st tier many bloody conflicts in the standing room area behind the goals at the city end when it was all concrete.
Pisshead filth and toigs fans who'd been drinking all day it was fair dinkum feral stuff.


 

Edited August 17, 2021 by Fork 'em

[deebug 1,754]

Win a GF no matter what, still would love to be there.

As for the lose a preim or GF both would be hard to take.

[Fanatique Demon 2,624]

6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

My answers were b) in both cases, whereas his were the opposite for both.

I agree.

[Fanatique Demon 2,624]

Sorry.. to clarify, I meant I agree with you. Thant is,  b) and b)

[Webber 10,433]

I was living in London in 2000, and fully prepared to fly back for the GF - in Thursday, out Sunday or Monday. Only miss a week of work, at worst. Was just about to press the go button, and my brother convinced me not to, because in all reality we were likely to lose as Essendon had been so dominant (he’s an MFC supporter). Thus I watched it at 3am Saturday morning London time, enormously thankful in my misery that I didn’t make the trip. Has to be b) and b). 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,264]

9 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Overlooked from the 1st tier many bloody conflicts in the standing room area behind the goals at the city end when it was all concrete.
Pisshead filth and toigs fans who'd been drinking all day it was fair dinkum feral stuff.


 

Ah, those were the days. Good times. 😆

[640MD 3,326]

We have a huge chance to win it this year. Who knows what will happen in the future, not me.

Go for it

[Old Man Rivers 326]

I have seen us win 88 & 2000 Preliminary’s live. The joy leaving both those games was mind blowing & I can only imagine what winning that one extra week feels like?  On the downside I also witnessed us getting destroyed in both those seasons only one week later. I just want to see us win the GF. If that has to be on TV this year well those are the cards we have been dealt. That won’t take away the moment for me as there are no guarantees we get this shot again.  Just roll with it guys , if this comes together this will be an epic moment in all our lives!!!

[DubDee 24,439]

14 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I was having this discussion with another Demon fan today and would like to pose these two questions to Demonlanders.

1.  Would you rather watch Melbourne a) lose the Grand Final in person at the MCG or b) win it on TV?

2.  What is worse - a) losing a Preliminary Final or b) losing a Grand Final?

My answers were b) in both cases, whereas his were the opposite for both.

This could be a poll if I had any idea how to do that.

Any chance of an option c) ?!

watching it at home I mostly feel sorry for my wife and kids as I’ll be a freaking nightmare to be around 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,383]

For those that have witnessed 1988 and 2000, the only answer would be watching a GF win on TV over attending a GF loss. They are humiliating experiences watching your team cooked by quarter time in a grand final.

I know people have shot me down for this question  but if you were given the choice of winning a flag in 2021 or 2022 which one would you choose - bearing in mind that you will be guaranteed that one of the two years we will win the flag under this hypothetical. (obviously without the hypothetical option, you take the 2021 premiership and run with it!!)

I would choose 2022. I know many would choose 2021 due to their own individual circumstances, but I want a grand final week where we can soak up the action, attend the MCG live for the game with our guaranteed tickets, and experience the elation of the MFC players and supporters at 4:30pm when the magical siren blows to signal that your team is the premier. I want to experience the fairy tale that Richmond, Dogs, Geelong and Sydney supporters experienced this century. And enjoy the celebrations with your friends and family well into the night.

Watching it on TV in the world's toughest lockdown just doesn't compare to the above experience that many of us would be denied.

Edited August 17, 2021 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Salems Lot 2,482]

59 minutes ago, Webber said:

I was living in London in 2000, and fully prepared to fly back for the GF - in Thursday, out Sunday or Monday. Only miss a week of work, at worst. Was just about to press the go button, and my brother convinced me not to, because in all reality we were likely to lose as Essendon had been so dominant (he’s an MFC supporter). Thus I watched it at 3am Saturday morning London time, enormously thankful in my misery that I didn’t make the trip. Has to be b) and b). 

Did you watch it from the Walkabout in Shepherds Bush? If so, I didnt see you there.

[In Harmes Way 7,712]

13 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

Did you watch it from the Walkabout in Shepherds Bush? If so, I didnt see you there.

I did. The replay the next afternoon. 

[daisycutter 29,341]

1 hour ago, Webber said:

I was living in London in 2000, and fully prepared to fly back for the GF - in Thursday, out Sunday or Monday. Only miss a week of work, at worst. Was just about to press the go button, and my brother convinced me not to, because in all reality we were likely to lose as Essendon had been so dominant (he’s an MFC supporter). Thus I watched it at 3am Saturday morning London time, enormously thankful in my misery that I didn’t make the trip. Has to be b) and b). 

same here webber. was staying in cotswalds, drove to a pub in oxford in the wee hours to watch. all over by quarter time. only saving grace was not facing all the barbs back home and forgiving my wife for booking a holiday in finals month.

[roy11 3,689]

15 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I was having this discussion with another Demon fan today and would like to pose these two questions to Demonlanders.

1.  Would you rather watch Melbourne a) lose the Grand Final in person at the MCG or b) win it on TV?

2.  What is worse - a) losing a Preliminary Final or b) losing a Grand Final?

My answers were b) in both cases, whereas his were the opposite for both.

This could be a poll if I had any idea how to do that.

#2 for me depends on the loss itself, ie losing a Prelim by 1 point may be worse than losing a GF by 10+ goals. Leaves more of a "what if" feel to it

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,652]

13 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i think this should be titled a hyperhypothetical  🙄

A hyperhypothetical hope.

And (b) and (b)

[faultydet 7,594]

Anyone who would choose to lose a grand so they could watch it in person is a moron not worth engaging with, or a high school student who hasn't experienced the emptiness that is post-1964 Melbourne.

[OhMyDees 1,825]

1. Clearly B - I’ve always lamented how after a flogging I can’t put on an AFL Grand Final win and watch it to make me feel better. 

2. Clearly A - I’ve seen two Preliminary Final loses (98 to North and 18 to West Coast) and the 2000 Grand Final loss to the Bombers. The Prelims were absolutely shattering compared to the GF. 

I’d far rather watch us lose the 2000 Grand Final again than be at Optus and be abused by the Eagles fans while we’re getting touched up by 60+…

[Salems Lot 2,482]

1 hour ago, In Harmes Way said:

I did. The replay the next afternoon. 

Oh i was there for the live broadcast, just horrible seated on a table with ferral Essendrug supporters who were half cut by the first quarter

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,125]

I'd find it hard to come to terms with any of those options and am clinging to the hope that our state can get it's [censored] together by the end of the current lockdown period so we can attend games in some capacity. If we lose we lose but I want to be there regardless.

There are now so many clubs that play home games at the G but finals is the one true time where the MFC have a distinct advantage over the rest when the entire northern side of the ground becomes a sea of red & blue. I desperately want us all to be there to provide the boys with that edge. 

[Webber 10,433]

2 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Did you watch it from the Walkabout in Shepherds Bush? If so, I didnt see you there

Not at 3am I didn’t. Watched at home, live. I did watch other GF replays at Walkabout Covent Garden, but can only really remember the stinky, beer-sodden carpet. 

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

same here webber. was staying in cotswalds, drove to a pub in oxford in the wee hours to watch. all over by quarter time. only saving grace was not facing all the barbs back home and forgiving my wife for booking a holiday in finals month

Haha. Even that drive to the pub was a waste of time. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,723]

5 hours ago, roy11 said:

#2 for me depends on the loss itself, ie losing a Prelim by 1 point may be worse than losing a GF by 10+ goals. Leaves more of a "what if" feel to it

87 Prelim vs 88 Grand Final 🤔

[In Harmes Way 7,712]

6 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Oh i was there for the live broadcast, just horrible seated on a table with ferral Essendrug supporters who were half cut by the first quarter

That would have been awful. It wasn't much better the next day mind you. Did you get to the Oval to see the Dees play Adelaide? That was a good day.