3 hours ago, Demonstone said:

(Not) sorry to be a pedant but, if we win the next two games, this week will be the penultimate and the Grand Final would then be the ultimate.  

I thought Pedant was your middle name!!

This news with Lachie Neale is strange really. Neale takes up a 5 year contract and moves to Brisbane with his young wife.

Surely the young couple would know that they would start a family within those 5 years and have a plan for support given the contract value.

33 minutes ago, Cyclops said:

This news with Lachie Neale is strange really. Neale takes up a 5 year contract and moves to Brisbane with his young wife.

Surely the young couple would know that they would start a family within those 5 years and have a plan for support given the contract value.

To be fair, covid and constant border closures weren’t in the picture back then.

6 hours ago, Sydee said:

Anyone who watching the Gus and Gawny podcasts knows Gus is a very important part of the culture we continue to build 

Remove elements of that at your peril

Personally rather have Gus playing for us than Cerra - not sure what the fuss is about him tbh

Agree, couldn't give a toss about Cerra, don't need him, not interested at all. 

Brayshaw is a great contributor on and off the field. I can’t see him going and would be devastated if he did. Cerra is good but not worth what it would take to get him. We need to continue to retain the great talent we have.

1 hour ago, Cyclops said:

This news with Lachie Neale is strange really. Neale takes up a 5 year contract and moves to Brisbane with his young wife.

Surely the young couple would know that they would start a family within those 5 years and have a plan for support given the contract value.

The next 2 years at Freo rather than the remaining 2 at Brisbane are likely worth at least a half million dollars extra for Neale.

44 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

To be fair, covid and constant border closures weren’t in the picture back then.

Or at 28 yo and a Brownlow in tow he is worth more now than in 2 years time when the contract is up.

From what I xan see his 44 possessions do not hurt the opposition too much this year so his currency is now and he knows it. Rip 4 years from Fremantle.

Can't see what covid has to do with it. Neale has a contract to an employer for 5 years to live away from Perth signed 3 years ago.

49 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

To be fair, covid and constant border closures weren’t in the picture back then.

Lockdowns will be a thing of the past once 80-85% vaccination rate is achieved by the end of the year.

25 minutes ago, Cyclops said:

Or at 28 yo and a Brownlow in tow he is worth more now than in 2 years time when the contract is up.

From what I xan see his 44 possessions do not hurt the opposition too much this year so his currency is now and he knows it. Rip 4 years from Fremantle.

Can't see what covid has to do with it. Neale has a contract to an employer for 5 years to live away from Perth signed 3 years ago.

You can't see what COVID's got to do with it?

When he signed his 5 year contract no one foresaw border closures. 

They may well have planned on starting a family three years back, but they may also have not. Not everyone plans their entire life around children, no matter what previous generations might have done.

Regardless, the situation three years ago is completely different to what it is now and if it turns out that being separated from family in WA is hitting them hard, that should be completely understandable to everyone.

Having said that, he's had a five year contract and been paid accordingly, and Brisbane has framed a list around him, so I'd understand if they want to take a relatively hard stance, but Neale's position is completely understandable.

33 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Lockdowns will be a thing of the past once 80-85% vaccination rate is achieved by the end of the year.

I’ll take that bet. Look overseas as a guide - Israel 

40 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

You can't see what COVID's got to do with it?

When he signed his 5 year contract no one foresaw border closures. 

They may well have planned on starting a family three years back, but they may also have not. Not everyone plans their entire life around children, no matter what previous generations might have done.

Regardless, the situation three years ago is completely different to what it is now and if it turns out that being separated from family in WA is hitting them hard, that should be completely understandable to everyone.

Having said that, he's had a five year contract and been paid accordingly, and Brisbane has framed a list around him, so I'd understand if they want to take a relatively hard stance, but Neale's position is completely understandable.

Everyone would include me and it doesn't. Sorry to disagree but I do. I also understood that he is South Australian.

If this is true, then it’s good thinking on the part of the Suns - 

AFL trade news: Suns’ top pick reportedly on trading block

For our part, we should be targeting one of those picks or possibly their pick 19 with a trade of an early pick in return for players. 

 

 

On 9/1/2021 at 5:01 PM, jnrmac said:

Maynard doesn't excite me. Has quite a few brain fades. I do like his attack on the ball though, He is manic.

He's not what we need.

We need to add outside run and delivery skills. Someone like Bowie only taller! Laurie could be that person but is only 181cm. Maybe a Lukosias type.

You can't have enough class and where we sit we don't want to be adding second rate players.

We also need a back up ruckman. And eventually a replacement for McDonald.

I am also looking forward to the day that players are clamouring to get to the Dees because they want to play in finals..

 

 

 

Whst about our back up ruckman Dogga???  
 

We can get better with skilled fast and outside players and also who finish off with goals. 

9 hours ago, Superunknown said:

I’ll take that bet. Look overseas as a guide - Israel 

There is currently as far as i know at 80% and that is Malta

Most other countries are aiming and accepting lower threshold

12 hours ago, Superunknown said:

I’ll take that bet. Look overseas as a guide - Israel 

Israel is only at 60% double vaccinated coverage, though.

They hit 50% double vaccinated in March but have plateaued significantly since then.

Just read James Cousins delisted by the Hawks. I thought he was a very good midfielder for the Hawks against us in the “drawn” game.  In the absence of some of the Hawks better mids, Cousins competed strongly in the centre and had outside run. I thought he certainly looked AFL quality. One to watch over the summer pre season as I think he might get a spot at another club most likely.  

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-news-2021-lachie-neale-fremantle-trade-caroline-wilson-vs-tony-jones-video-transcript/news-story/eaa8004038e5fe75b439c647681827da

I agree with Caro here. Neale is walking out on the Lions and they should play hardball.  He walked out on his contract with Freo and is doing it again.  I wouldn't be in a rush to have him in my team, gun player but a team man?  

 

15 minutes ago, DubDee said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-news-2021-lachie-neale-fremantle-trade-caroline-wilson-vs-tony-jones-video-transcript/news-story/eaa8004038e5fe75b439c647681827da

I agree with Caro here. Neale is walking out on the Lions and they should play hardball.  He walked out on his contract with Freo and is doing it again.  I wouldn't be in a rush to have him in my team, gun player but a team man?  

Neale is getting a bit of heat in the media.  Perhaps, rightly so.  Not only for wanting out but for reportedly not giving the club an inkling of his thinking at some stage.  And worse he didn't contact the club on Sunday night when the news broke in Perth.  Waited until the club called a meeting yesterday.

Completely blindsided them.  Lack of respect for his club and what it has helped him achieve.   Doubt he would have a Brownlow if he had stayed at Freo.

Not to mention that (reportedly) 70% of his 5 year contract has already been paid in the first 3 years.  

Edited September 7, 20213 yr by Lucifer's Hero

58 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

Not to mention that (reportedly) 70% of his 5 year contract has already been paid in the first 3 years.  

which represents 10% extra on a 5 x 800k = $4M contract, so he is ahead $400k.....a fair bit of coin

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

which represents 10% extra on a 5 x 800k = $4M contract, so he is ahead $400k.....a fair bit of coin

Purple was quite scathing; called him a manipulator.  Ouch!

I suppose they will need the free babysitters around once the kid arrives.

God knows how short of time the wife will be, with all of those time consuming Instagram pics to upload every day and whatnot.

 

I'd hold the [censored] to his contract unless it was a clear win in a trade.

amazing that beams will have played more seasons at bears than neale will have done if he gets his way and goes 'home' to freo

10 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Purple was quite scathing; called him a manipulator.  Ouch!

for front-ended contracts i can't believe they wouldn't have a claw-back clause if player breaks contract early

especially after beams, but it's just common sense anyway.

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

for front-ended contracts i can't believe they wouldn't have a claw-back clause if player breaks contract early

especially after beams, but it's just common sense anyway.

Yep. Lions burnt twice.  Surprised they took the risk.

Clubs should have a 'golden handshake' type clause for expensive interstate player to be paid at the end of the contract.  I suspect the AFLPA would kick up a fuss.

As suggested OTC last night, unless Freo can offer a really good trade - I'd be inclined if I were the Lions to make Neale stay for at least one more year of that contract and if he wants to be traded at the end of next year then he can be without them having been blindsided.  

I understand COVID has changed the parameters somewhat, but I think the whole family angle is slightly overplayed and another 12 months would be quite manageable for most families.  Though far from ideal (but what is in this world) or not really understanding the nature of the circumstances of Neale and his partner, we do live in a modern first world country where he has been handsomely remunerated for his talents, and where it is likely (but not certain) that restrictions once we reach a vaccination threshold will be relaxed. 

Edited September 7, 20213 yr by grazman