Demon Disciple 12,538 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Simply idiotic from Viney. The game is poorer for things like that occurring. Stupid. Quote
pitmaster 3,592 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ucanchoose said: Why? I'm sick of his play. Can't hit a target or shake a tackle. Time to go You haven't been watching. Three clear goal assists by lowering eyes and foot passing last two weeks. All after breaking from contests. 4 1 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said: Yeah nah I didn't think so. Even after watching the doggies replay, nothing had changed my opinion on that I thought he was still fairly average. I disagree 1 Quote
Skuit 10,031 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I'm usually on the conservative side when it comes to MRO and penalties, there's a lot we need to stamp out in the game. Not much in this though. Should be risk related. I'd rather someone wrestling with me put an elbow into me (would it be different if Viney held Collins' head down by his hand?) than took a wild swing with the pointy end. Will be back by finals at any rate. Whatever. 1 Quote
Older demon 2,828 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Can I point out that incidents are sent direct to the tribunal when they cannot be categorised under the gradings system.Misconduct has been used to report a variety of incidents. I suggest serious was used here because there is an elbow lying across someones neck. A recent direct to tribunal case got off involving a bump. This incident whilst I don't like it and it doesn't look good wasn't a strike, a trip, a kick or a bump to the head in play and therefore it is left to the tribunal to decide because the match review officer cannot define it. 1 Quote
DubDee 26,710 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 A very dangerous thing - prolonged pressure to the neck with the elbow. Could have blocked oxygen to the brain. Off the ball, lasted 4-5 seconds. He’s in trouble. 2 weeks minimum I’d reckon 2 Quote
RedFox 536 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I also reckon he's in trouble. It wasn't 2 or 3 seconds, he pinned his neck for an uncomfortable amount of time. Don't like it and I'm sure the tribunal won't either 1 Quote
Billy 2,576 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, Demons11 said: Geeze we have some very average supporters. You’re not wrong Demons11. For some reason a lot of members have no love for Viney, if it was Gawn they would be screaming from the rooftops Looks like most on here want him to get weeks 4 Quote
I'va Worn Smith 996 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 He's gawn. Silly act and a prolonged act. Bring back Hibbo. He's had a rest and proven he can be a lock doww player Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy said: You’re not wrong Demons11. For some reason a lot of members have no love for Viney, if it was Gawn they would be screaming from the rooftops Looks like most on here want him to get weeks Agree mate. 5 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,692 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, DubDee said: A very dangerous thing - prolonged pressure to the neck with the elbow. Could have blocked oxygen to the brain Only if his trachea is in the side of his neck. Nothing more than a bit of free chiropractic work. Collins could’ve moved at any stage 1 1 Quote
At the break of Gawn 4,515 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 He’ll probably get a week. His defensive pressure would be handy against the Eagles’ mids but it’s really not all that much to fret about. He was our worst player on the w/e (putting Sparrow aside). I hope Jones comes in for him. He’ll be like an uncaged lion trying to grab his chance and would probably match Viney’s intensity. Quote
Seraph 1,824 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Only if his trachea is in the side of his neck. Nothing more than a bit of free chiropractic work. Collins could’ve moved at any stage Oxygen flows through blood. Trachea has nothing to do with it. People go unconscious in headlocks due to a lack of blood supply. Same issue that people are arguing here. Personally I think 5 seconds, not a huge issue. But still not a great look. If it was 1-2 seconds I doubt it'd even be looked at. I'd expect a week for the optics and to serve as a warning for the rest of the comp. Edited August 2, 2021 by Seraph Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, DubDee said: Could have blocked oxygen to the brain He's lucky to be alive thankfully he showed no ill effects and played out the rest of the game 1 2 Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Some perspective for the delusional. Bad look but not a hanging offence Edited August 2, 2021 by Demons11 1 Quote
DubDee 26,710 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Only if his trachea is in the side of his neck. Nothing more than a bit of free chiropractic work. Collins could’ve moved at any stage I ain’t no doctor but I believe the Carotid arteries deliver oxygen to the brain. Located in the side of the neck 2 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, roy11 said: The old, Viney '...I'm tougher than you...' syndrome is apparently more important than getting on with the game for the sake of the Club and his teammates? This is not mongrel as it should be. Poor effort. Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said: He’ll probably get a week. His defensive pressure would be handy against the Eagles’ mids but it’s really not all that much to fret about. He was our worst player on the w/e (putting Sparrow aside). I hope Jones comes in for him. He’ll be like an uncaged lion trying to grab his chance and would probably match Viney’s intensity. Like that last sentence, and the deep meaning within - Jones may well be the best choice for short bursts from the bench to re-establish our ball control should it go missing. 2 Quote
DubDee 26,710 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Nev said: Reckon we could mount an argument that Collins is pulling him down on him given he's pulling Viney down by the jumper with two hands. Really can't see the big deal on this one tbh. You really think prolonged, deliberate pressure to the neck off the ball is no big deal?? wow 2 Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Viney plays on the edge and that’s why most love him. We need blokes like this and the tackle he makes on Collins is the perfect example of why he is so valuable to this side and will be one of our most important players come finals Edited August 2, 2021 by Demons11 1 Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, bluey said: Mans a liability. Mans got to know his limitations 1 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, DubDee said: A very dangerous thing - prolonged pressure to the neck with the elbow. Could have blocked oxygen to the brain. Off the ball, lasted 4-5 seconds. He’s in trouble. 2 weeks minimum I’d reckon Without sounding unreasonably dramatic, but it should be realised - by Jack Viney if no one else, grinding someone’s neck with your elbow right under the base of the skull is tempting injury to the vertebral artery, which can and often does cause an instant bleed to the brain. A mate of mine died 6 months ago from such a vertebral artery ‘dissection’, as did the cricketer Phil Hughes. What JV did, and deliberately, is beyond stupid. 4 4 Quote
Megatron 886 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Viney doesn’t engage in the wrestle until Collins pulls him down after the tackle. As soon as Viney lays the tackle, he’s ready for the next contest until Collins pulls And holds him down. Then Viney tries to get back up and he gets pulled back down again. If he gets rubbed out, he’ll have a case to appeal. 3 Quote
chook fowler 19,783 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, DubDee said: I ain’t no doctor but I believe the Carotid arteries deliver oxygen to the brain. Located in the side of the neck There is also a structure called the carotid sinus in that vicinity which can when stimulated can slow the heart and even cause cardiac arrest. Very dangerous area to be fiddling with. 2 Quote
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Just dumb; inconceivably stupid. Nothing tough about laying into a guy who’s already lying on his back. Nothing to gain, plenty to lose. Shouldn’t even both getting on the plane. 1 Quote
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