[censored] I'm Gone Just Ask Me

You can just imagine the list management conversation that lead to this.  Wright basically will be staying the list is stuffed, we have massive salary cap issues we need to off load players to start a 3-4 year rebuild.

Bucks saying  I'm not hanging around to see more senior players off loaded and sitting in the bottom 4 for the next few years.

Ross Lyon isn't the man for the job, they need a massive rebuild.  Ross is better suited at Carlton that have enough good young players that need a senior coach to take them to the next level.

 

 

Selfish damn pies.  Now they will suck all the oxygen out of the lead up and on the day for Neale.  Obviously did not give this week a second thought.  All we will hear about is Buckley when it should be about Neales cause.

34 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

The Age is quoting some as saying no one deserves a flag more

 

I’ll go first

robert flower

nathan jones

Add below 

any player who never walked out of the club after a single year that drafted them with pick 1

Agree with a lot of prior comments:

Lyon better suited to Carlton than Buckley

Selfish Pies taking away from MND fund raising

Darn Magpies swill be fired up monday for the Bucks last game. Big test for us.

 

 

51 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

The Age is quoting some as saying no one deserves a flag more

 

I’ll go first

robert flower

nathan jones

Add below 

Martin Pike

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Go in for the kill Dees...

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I can see a Machiavellian type of move here.

Filth: "Let's offer Sam Mitchell the gig"; he goes to Hawthorn "Gee boys, I've had the triffic offer from the filth" .Panic stations at Glenferrie/Waverley. "Alistair, the filth are trying to poach the golden boy. Thanks for the good years but we're going to have to let you go (at the end of the year)" Alistair feigning surprise wins every game left (except ours).

In the meantime, Jeffrey unaware of this dastardly and cunning move has isolated Clarkson with the Filth only to sweep in with a fabulous offer to coach a disintegrating club. Clarkson walks out the Crown door after an uneventful B&F to the sounds OF Virtue - Thanks for Nothing?

The only proviso is I'm not sure anyone at Collingwood would understand a Machiavellian move.

 

My word from semi inside Hawks is that they are resigned to the fact that Clarko is iff to the Filth next season. 

1 minute ago, monoccular said:

My word from semi inside Hawks is that they are resigned to the fact that Clarko is iff to the Filth next season. 

"resigned to the fact" or "pleased with the fact"?

If I were Hawthorn, I could see Clarkson leaving as a positive as it allows a refresh with Sam Mitchell in charge. In fact, it would be a win-win-win-win (Collingwood-Hawthorn-Clarkson-Mitchell)

8 minutes ago, longsuffering said:

I can see a Machiavellian type of move here.

Filth: "Let's offer Sam Mitchell the gig"; he goes to Hawthorn "Gee boys, I've had the triffic offer from the filth" .Panic stations at Glenferrie/Waverley. "Alistair, the filth are trying to poach the golden boy. Thanks for the good years but we're going to have to let you go (at the end of the year)" Alistair feigning surprise wins every game left (except ours).

In the meantime, Jeffrey unaware of this dastardly and cunning move has isolated Clarkson with the Filth only to sweep in with a fabulous offer to coach a disintegrating club. Clarkson walks out the Crown door after an uneventful B&F to the sounds OF Virtue - Thanks for Nothing?

The only proviso is I'm not sure anyone at Collingwood would understand a Machiavellian move.

 

Magpie fans deepest thoughts on Machiavelli - do you want fries with that?

53 minutes ago, Soidee said:

Selfish damn pies.  Now they will suck all the oxygen out of the lead up and on the day for Neale.  Obviously did not give this week a second thought.  All we will hear about is Buckley when it should be about Neales cause.

Let's square the ledger by having all next week's talk being about how badly Nathan was let down by the players in his last match.

6 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Magpie fans deepest thoughts on Machiavelli - do you want fries with that?

That's unfair. I think it's much more likely they think Machiavelli is a pasta option at McDonalds.

Really unsure how they'll view their options regarding a potential replacement, if Clarko is receptive obviously he flies to the top of the list, but the Hawks may not be willing to let him go, not sure if they 100% believe Sam Mitchell is ready this soon for a senior role. potentially needs another year

 

2 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

Really unsure how they'll view their options regarding a potential replacement, if Clarko is receptive obviously he flies to the top of the list, but the Hawks may not be willing to let him go, not sure if they 100% believe Sam Mitchell is ready this soon for a senior role. potentially needs another year

 

Most assistant coaches have a clause in their contracts to the effect that they can leave if they secure a senior coaching position elsewehere. I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case with Mitchell.

If the commentary suggesting Clarko was not the man for a rebuild at the Hawks, why would he take on that role at the Pies?

Would be great for the Pies, but not sure it is that clear cut for Clarko?

Just googled what Figjam means.  this thread makes more sense now!

My hatred of the filth just went up a degree that I did not think was possible. I supppose we just match them till half time and by then they should be ready to be blown off the park. Better luck Buckley. You will be better off getting out from that slimehole.

26 minutes ago, monoccular said:

My word from semi inside Hawks is that they are resigned to the fact that Clarko is iff to the Filth next season. 

Clarko can go there for 2-3 years, earn 1.5M per year and then ease off into retirement

Not sure Clarko would want to leave the Hawks in such a bad state though.  He has been in denial about their list for years now, keeps trading in average players rather than going to the draft.  They have very few young kids coming through

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

They're playing for their careers as well remember

No more than they were a week earlier 

Could this day get any better? Pies and Blues tearing themselves apart. 

Could it get any better? Over to you Essington.

 

 

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Such a pity this won’t be at the G. The Pies would have paid their respects to bucks. 
 

It may have been Buck's decision made under the uncertainty veil of the Covid calamity DD.  Not knowing exactly when there might be a home game exactly and just wanting a clean fast break seeing the writing on the wall?

Also if they are looking to sign up a new suitor or about to and get in before someone else does then the board might have felt they had to move sooner rather than  later.

Having said that (and not knowing the mechanations behind the scenes), assuming they aren't in a rush to sign someone else up, the fact they haven't given one of the greats and a long term coach of the club a send off match would seem to be pretty poor form from an uninformed outsiders view.

It's not like they're going places in the next month or two, even with a new Coach. 

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Pies players with a full week to sit and think about it.

Real possibility that a few veterans will be thinking 'Will it be me next?', and a few stars will be thinking 'Is this my fault for demanding so much money?', and a few young guns will be thinking 'Do I really want to be here with all this chaos?', and a few key players will be thinking, "How will this affect the character reference he gave the court?"

It wouldn't take much for the players to be thinking about a lot of things other than their opponents by Monday.

Switching my '186' tracker on.

Of course, they might also weather the initial shock and have time to bounce back emotionally and set themselves for maximum effort. But even then, it won't be maximum effort with maximum organisation, so I'd expect the Pies to still only manage a respectable loss.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-nathan-buckley-collingwood-contract-coaching-deal-extension/news-story/f1e1eb096e88b6f4fee5d07b0e117a50

“The pressure clearly has been on Nathan Buckley and the team. I sit here tonight quite confident that he‘ll be coaching Collingwood in 2022,“ McClure said on Channel 9’s Footy Classified.

Good get, Sam McLure.

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34 minutes ago, bingers said:

Most assistant coaches have a clause in their contracts to the effect that they can leave if they secure a senior coaching position elsewehere. I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case with Mitchell.

Correct, for a direct promotion, it's why if an assistant was hired for a succession plan it'd require the teams permission for them to go.