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COVID & AFL 2021

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16 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Clearly ‘be prepared’ means go out right now and clear every single shelf of every single supermarket of toilet paper. Not a single ply is to remain!

Coz, embarrassingly, that’s what is already happening. 

Haha not kidding, I did the grocery shopping last night and toilet paper was on the list. I felt like I had to explain to people it was just a normal purchase, don't give me greasies...

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    5 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

    A bit like the COVIDsafe app that cost the taxpayer $17mil and traced very few?

    Yep, exactly

     
    1 hour ago, ManDee said:

    I understand OD, but your dig at your 70yo mate as if he puts others at risk I think is misplaced. One of the problems with AZ is the overall efficacy rate against all strains of Covid. If as been quoted it is about 65% effective you need close to 100% take up to achieve herd immunity. The mRna jabs over 88% effective meaning approx 70% take up achieves herd immunity. My feeling is that eventually we will all be offered an mRna vaccine even those that have had the AZ Rna jabs. Any way stay safe my friend.

    ManDee, you (and frankly most of the world) are misunderstanding what efficacy percentage means. Here’s a link to explain it - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00075-X/fulltext. It’s a decent read, but worth it for clarity. Simply put, the efficacy of all the vaccines available to us (AZ no less) in preventing hospitalisation and death even if one contracts the virus is complete. There is no difference between them for what they are designed to do. 
    Edit : Here’s another to explain the diff between efficacy and effectiveness. Thus far, all vaccines have had basically the same ‘effectiveness’. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-is-vaccine-efficacy

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    Would be easier to move this Round to next week, the finals bye Round or shorten this season by one week ; depending on what happens tomorrow.

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    3 hours ago, mauriesy said:

    I had the first AZ vaccination last Sunday. Just a very mild headache for a day afterwards. The clotting risk is lower as you get older, for 70-year-olds it's about 2 per million. Less than the chance of a car accident on the way to the clinic.

    Sometime, events will be limited to fully vaccinated people. That's an incentive to get it.

     

    Thanks for that Mauriesy, there goes my book

    2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Where did you see that? I can't find anything about a 2nd MCG case. 

    There's 1 from Coll vs Port & 1 from Ess vs Nth. 

    Oops, sorry misread an article on the guardian. Yep one from each game only.

     
    11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    Haha not kidding, I did the grocery shopping last night and toilet paper was on the list. I felt like I had to explain to people it was just a normal purchase, don't give me greasies...

    Maybe next time don’t have four packed trolleys-full and you might not cop the greasies. ?
    Poo tickets are like gold right now. 

    1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Maybe next time don’t have four packed trolleys-full and you might not cop the greasies. ?
    Poo tickets are like gold right now. 

    Ah geez again? :p 


    8 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Maybe next time don’t have four packed trolleys-full and you might not cop the greasies. ?
    Poo tickets are like gold right now. 

    They might have been abusing me, not sure, couldn't hear anything over the sound of the reversing beep in my truck...

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    Everyone go look at the moon!

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    Here we go. Another paranoid lockdown.

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    Everyone is talking now like it us fully expected to have zero crowds this weekend. 
     

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    2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    Yes please! anywhere but Marvel! 

    1 hour ago, Webber said:

    ManDee, you (and frankly most of the world) are misunderstanding what efficacy percentage means. Here’s a link to explain it - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00075-X/fulltext. It’s a decent read, but worth it for clarity. Simply put, the efficacy of all the vaccines available to us (AZ no less) in preventing hospitalisation and death even if one contracts the virus is complete. There is no difference between them for what they are designed to do. 
    Edit : Here’s another to explain the diff between efficacy and effectiveness. Thus far, all vaccines have had basically the same ‘effectiveness’. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-is-vaccine-efficacy

    Not all vaccines are equal against all strains. mRNA's appear to be more effective against more strains. It seems that all the vaccines have similar efficacy when they work. The blood clot issue is minor unless you are the unlucky one.

    1 hour ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

    A bit like the COVIDsafe app that cost the taxpayer $17mil and traced very few?

    Please do some research 

    6 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    Not all vaccines are equal against all strains. mRNA's appear to be more effective against more strains. It seems that all the vaccines have similar efficacy when they work. The blood clot issue is minor unless you are the unlucky one.

    The roll-out is very poor, but if we all sit around and wait until October or beyond for non-AZ, we'll get more cases, maybe a severe third wave, go continually in and out of lockdown (and we'll never get unhindered football!).

    You've only got to look at the case rates in the UK, Europe and the USA now to see how dramatic the reduction is following high vaccination rates. They're 5-10% of what they were (with the UK using mostly AZ).

    Or look at poorly vaccinated India.

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    3 hours ago, Demonland said:

    That'll do it. They can deep clean the G while they're at it. Even after COVID there was still the baked on bird poo on my seat that has been there for nearly a decade. #firstworldproblem

    If they were black birds baked in a pie we could blame the filth ... ?

    8 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Eddie reckons a 5 day lockdown will be announced tomorrow.

    Mentioned this on Footy Classifides just then.

    Hardly surprising, well I have plenty of single malt, bananas, a Netflix subscription  and toilet paper so happy with world

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    15 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Eddie reckons a 5 day lockdown will be announced tomorrow.

    Mentioned this on Footy Classifides just then.

    “My high level gov contacts”….

    Hes just said his “high leave AFL contacts” re head high contact.

    Stop speaking to him people, he’s done, a man who presided over a totally lack of accountability in his club, let him float away.

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    1 hour ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

    A bit like the COVIDsafe app that cost the taxpayer $17mil and traced very few?

    Understand public finances. It cost taxpayers zero dollars. As powerful as it sounds (hence the deliberate weaponisation of language and framing), if you understood how the official public accounts work, you'd know it's impossible for taxes to fund federal expenditure. Taxation is the deletion point of currency and spending/marking up accounts is the creation point.

    Was it misspent public money? Sure. But you or I had no hand in funding it. The sole issuer of the AUD doesn't need its own liabilities back to fund anything, that's nonsensical, but without taxation we'd have inflation. In order to spend, Federal Treasury simply instructs its central bank to mark up accounts. ?


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