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Just now, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Most would, except the rollout has been slow unless you are in the vulnerable category.

there's ample supply out there now.

The problem was that although CSL were putting out 1M per week of AZ since mid March they had a further six week approval time for each batch which was only recently explained.

There's now millions of doses of AZ in the system with 1M more being added every week.

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2 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Most would, except the rollout has been slow unless you are in the vulnerable category.

Agreed. The vulnerable categories are pretty slack in getting it done, meanwhile the people not in those categories who are ready cannot. If it was opened to everyone, vaccination numbers would be much, much higher. I'm under 50 and not in health and everyone I know is waiting for the green light, just never seems to come

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well days out from the game and it's looking more positive than yesterday at least.  I was sure a lockdown would be called today. Any unlinked cases come in overnight and we'll be locked down

But until that happens, I'm planning to go to the game. the capped capacity is not really an issue as I doubt we would get 20K people at the game given all the covid stuff going on.

Fingers crossed, no unlinked cases. and a big Melbourne win!

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1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

there's ample supply out there now.

The problem was that although CSL were putting out 1M per week of AZ since mid March they had a further six week approval time for each batch which was only recently explained.

There's now millions of doses of AZ in the system with 1M more being added every week.

Only if you are over 50 or a health professional or have a medical condition.  Also a lot of people mistakenly think they will get a  clot if they get the AZ vaccine when the risk is lower than taking the contraceptive pill (why listen to doctors when you have facebook huh?)

my mum is a nurse in a aged care hospital and only got her first vaccine 3 weeks ago.

A shambles!

 

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2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The under 40's brigade should be able to get a jab now if there is ample supply.

Agreed. There is no reason they can't allow it and just give preference via an express lane to over 50s who turn up.

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19 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

Everything's going to be fine. 

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That peanut really helped thinngs with one of those 10 million announcements.

Basically telling people over 50 to chill, no hurry to get the cheap, cask wine  blood clot vaccine. Just wait until the top shelf, grange one is available around Xmas. Or next year. Or mid next year.

Anyone would think they are quite happy to ride the whe're an island, we're ok, keep the borders closed, nationalistic sentiment all the way to the next election.

All the while bagging the states about border closures (bad for business apparently - but closing the national border isn't. Strange).

And doing sweet fa about sorting an effective national quarantine response.

Rhyming slang comes to mind.

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40 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The under 40's brigade should be able to get a jab now if there is ample supply.

There is no supply of Pfizer and they won’t give AZ to under 50s due to greater risk of clotting. The issue for under 50s not being vaccinated is supply rather than demand. 

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2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

There is no supply of Pfizer and they won’t give AZ to under 50s due to greater risk of clotting. The issue for under 50s not being vaccinated is supply rather than demand. 

I thought you can still get az if you are under 50. If you want to. And really I don't understand why anyone wouldn't 

Its just thst it is recommendation not to. But discuss with your doc

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Just now, binman said:

I thought you can still get az if you are under 50. If you want to. And really I don't understand why anyone wouldn't 

Its just thst it is recommendation not to. But discuss with your doc

Firstly you can’t because nobody under 50 can get vaccinated unless they fall into one of the A categories of being high risk or a specific worker like healthcare. 
They did make a ruling that under 50s tho are not meant to get the AZ. Those under 50 who had it done before the decision and had no side effects are eligible for their second dose. Again it’s mostly health care workers. 
The roll out for under 50s is meant to start when we get Pfizer or Moderna supplied. 

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As a health professional, I’m getting very f*****g angry about both the federal government’s half-arsed rollout, not to mention their incompetence at negating false information in the media, and some people’s utter selfishness and lack of community responsibility in ‘delaying’ their own vax for selfish or ignorant reasons. There is only ONE way to reduce the broader societal impact of this virus. ONE. Herd immunity through vaccination. If you can, GET VACCINATED!!!! It’s your civic duty, if nothing else. The Exhibition Building mass vax centre is populated by vaccinators doing sweet F A too much of the day. 

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5 minutes ago, Jaded said:

There is no supply of Pfizer and they won’t give AZ to under 50s due to greater risk of clotting. The issue for under 50s not being vaccinated is supply rather than demand. 

Just to clarify - the risk of a clot is not greater in under 50s it is just that the chances of being impacted by Covid is greater for over 50's which tips the risk/benefit scale over.

The risk of a clot from the AZ vaccine for any age is less than that when taking the contraceptive pill

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7 minutes ago, Jaded said:

There is no supply of Pfizer and they won’t give AZ to under 50s due to greater risk of clotting. The issue for under 50s not being vaccinated is supply rather than demand. 

Yes they will give you the AZ if you ask. 

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Just now, DubDee said:

Just to clarify - the risk of a clot is not greater in under 50s it is just that the chances of being impacted by Covid is greater for over 50's which tips the risk/benefit scale over.

The risk of a clot from the AZ vaccine for any age is less than that when taking the contraceptive pill

Correct. I should have been more clear. 

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1 minute ago, Webber said:

Yes they will give you the AZ if you ask. 

I’m 34. If I rocked up and said can I get vaccinated they’d let me? 
 

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9 minutes ago, binman said:

I thought you can still get az if you are under 50. If you want to. And really I don't understand why anyone wouldn't 

Its just thst it is recommendation not to. But discuss with your doc

yep just a recommendation. Political (imo) in nature to distract the public as the vaccine roll out was so slow.  It is safe for all comers and if you ask you can receive if illegible

I am 41yo and hanging to get any covid vaccine

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3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’m 34. If I rocked up and said can I get vaccinated they’d let me? 
 

If you fall into 1a or 1b yes.

If not, the vic government is pushing to open availability to everyone.

As the federal government should have done from the start. A total joke.

So very, very soon you will have the opportunity to get an AZ vaccination shot.

 

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5 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’m 34. If I rocked up and said can I get vaccinated they’d let me? 
 

This from health.gov.au - The COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine can be used in adults aged under 50 years where the benefits clearly outweigh the risk for that individual and the person has made an informed decision based on an understanding of the risks and benefits.

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Just now, binman said:

If you fall into 1a or 1b yes.

If not, the vic government is pushing to open availability to everyone.

As the federal government should have done from the start. A total joke.

So very, very soon you will have the opportunity to get an AZ vaccination shot.

 

You do now - informed consent. 

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Just now, Webber said:

This from health.gov.au - The COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine can be used in adults aged under 50 years where the benefits clearly outweigh the risk for that individual and the person has made an informed decision based on an understanding of the risks and benefits.

But I am not in any risk factor category so they won’t give me anything. AZ or otherwise. 

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2 minutes ago, Webber said:

You do now - informed consent. 

I don't think that's the case actually. I think, but stand to be corrected, thst informed consent is a blanket statement that atm applies only to people under 50 AND eligible to get a vaccination (1a, 1b  frontline workers etc).

But under 50s will be able to get it here in a matter of weeks I reckon 

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