TRAINING: Monday 18th January 2021

[640MD 2,997]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Great reporting guys.

I'd like to hear thoughts on Kobi Farmer. Is he a possible chance for a spot on the list just by watching his training standards? 

Good question   and what height is he and guess at the weight compared to perhaps Spargo Kossie and Bedford and even the 2 new guys Laurie and Bowie     have I got that correct ?

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said:

I disagree - I think he offers something with his field kicking ability and speed that many of our mids don't.  He's obviously also very capable in the air and in one-on-one situations.  Given he's a left footer, could he be a genuine option as the other winger to Langdon? 

I know people have said that Baker, Hunt and even the new kid should play this role but I think he offers more than Baker and Hunt at least IF he has the tank and has the desire - last two years he has looked like a player that's only willing to play on his own terms.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was sure Melky was a natural right foot kick but very handy on his left as well.

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26 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was sure Melky was a natural right foot kick but very handy on his left as well.

Deffo a right footer.

Good on his left as well, but the right is his natural leg.

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Like Sam Mitchell, kicks equally well of both feet:

 

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Just now, george_on_the_outer said:

Like Sam Mitchell, kicks equally well off both feet:

 

 

[dazzledavey36 49,335]

2 hours ago, pitmaster said:

Seemed to struggle in the repeat running routine. I think he still has some work to do on his fitness base, but that's without any real study, just a casual observation. Too soon to judge him.

Thanks Pit.

What about when the footys are out? How does he go in that aspect. 

[dworship 3,342]

A big thank you to our intrepid reporters. They may have noticed a fellow with camera and tripod in their vicinity. He is a demon tragic whom I often catch up with at training (in the past at least) and at Casey games. With his permission I will share some of his photos and a few comments from him and myself.

Young Farmer may not be as tiny as some have suggested.

[dworship 3,342]

My mate has suggested that as Kobe is wearing number 48 it is more than likely he is being added to the list.

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Some perspective on where the group were able to view from.

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Rosman getting the benefit of one on one training from Lewey.

Edited January 19, 2021 by dworship
forgot the pic

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A case in point - no number.

[Pates 9,537]

40 minutes ago, dworship said:

Some perspective on where the group were able to view from.

Must be quite funny for Wiz and Yze to be back together at the club and seeing us at Casey fields. All those years of training at Junction oval in season and then Sandy in the off-season. 

A reminder just how slow and bad the club has been at getting us a proper base of operations. 

Kobe’s height doesn’t look terrible but he is very slight and skinny. Definitely not expecting much from him this year (should he get the nod). 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,332]

4 hours ago, Demon Dude said:

yeah I'm not really sure how Melksham fits up forward anymore. he seems to lose a lot more 1v1 contests than he used to, and to my eye he looks too slow for it these days as he doesn't have the leg speed to pressure and tackle, or to even get around an opponent with ball in hand anymore. instead he usually just tries to kick around corners in general play most of the time which has seen his disposal efficiency go well down over the last few years (Jones also has this same problem, but i am heartened by the reports of Williams trying to eradicate it at pre season training which will also hopefully carry through to team selection as well). 

i also think Melksham doesn't really work hard enough to be a mid either, we already have too many like that as it is, and as a 'run with' player i'd prefer Harmes in that role anyway if we were going down that path.

i find it hard to find a spot for him in the best 22 to be honest, as he's been on the downward slide for a while now.

 

This bolded is the key. 

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1 hour ago, dworship said:

Rosman getting the benefit of one on one training from Lewey.

Man he is tall!

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

6 hours ago, dworship said:

Some perspective on where the group were able to view from.

Hello dworship, I could tell he was a demonlander tragic like myself. I'm pictured here with the red cap by jeff's elbow. Hopefully i'll get to know some of you die hard supporters like myself in the future. 

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10 hours ago, 640MD said:

Good question   and what height is he and guess at the weight compared to perhaps Spargo Kossie and Bedford and even the 2 new guys Laurie and Bowie     have I got that correct ?

Kobe wasn't noticeably different to Kossie and Spargo he's definitely 170+ when I saw them all standing next to each other. I have to say though... as much as I love the fairytale of a Farmer dominating our forward line. I just can't see it in Kobe. He just doesn't have elite attributes for a player his size. He was very tentative at training. If he has any chance at landing a spot on our list he needs to give it all his got. 

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2 hours ago, Caligula's cohort said:

Kobe wasn't noticeably different to Kossie and Spargo he's definitely 170+ when I saw them all standing next to each other. I have to say though... as much as I love the fairytale of a Farmer dominating our forward line. I just can't see it in Kobe. He just doesn't have elite attributes for a player his size. He was very tentative at training. If he has any chance at landing a spot on our list he needs to give it all his got. 

Patience ... working into a higher level of the game takes time for most youthful exponents. He is likely to turn a corner or two at a moment's notice once the 'settlers' have calmed him in training routines. He must have something other than lineage that makes him worth the effort. I'd reckon at this stage it is 'footy smarts', for starters.

 

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4 hours ago, Caligula's cohort said:

Kobe wasn't noticeably different to Kossie and Spargo he's definitely 170+ when I saw them all standing next to each other. I have to say though... as much as I love the fairytale of a Farmer dominating our forward line. I just can't see it in Kobe. He just doesn't have elite attributes for a player his size. He was very tentative at training. If he has any chance at landing a spot on our list he needs to give it all his got. 

I too have heard this similar description about Kobe.

[deelusions from afar 1,619]

16 hours ago, McQueen said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was sure Melky was a natural right foot kick but very handy on his left as well.

Yeah sorry you are right - I often get mixed up due to that last goal he kicked v Hawthorn in the 2018 final.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,626]

17 hours ago, BW511 said:

It would be easy for a player like Hunt to be pretty disgruntled, every year they seem to find a new role for him and then lose patience immediately when it doesn't work.

Particularly when someone like Melksham gets games on zero output.

True to an extent however not sure how many other clubs would pick him up if we delisted him.

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13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

True to an extent however not sure how many other clubs would pick him up if we delisted him.

Absolutely, you would think his management have been asking the question over the past 2 years.

If there was interest, he would have gone.

I'll just add, this is all an opinion based on how I think things would have played out, rather than any facts.

 

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Melksham played 5 or 6 bad games in a year where our delivery of the footy in to the forwards was horrible and he had to uproot his young family to live on the road for 4 months, next thing he's the whipping boy of the entire list ?

Don't be so fickle. Back our people, especially our leaders to bounce back. He's a class act. 

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14 hours ago, dworship said:

My mate has suggested that as Kobe is wearing number 48 it is more than likely he is being added to the list.

Hopefully he can do the famous number 48 and Kyle Dunkley (and whoever wore it before) justice....

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24 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Melksham played 5 or 6 bad games in a year where our delivery of the footy in to the forwards was horrible and he had to uproot his young family to live on the road for 4 months, next thing he's the whipping boy of the entire list ?

Don't be so fickle. Back our people, especially our leaders to bounce back. He's a class act. 

He's defensive efforts were poor all year as was his appetite for the contest. That he captained the club for a game was frankly insulting to members, players, the jumper etc.

He does have talent, especially his ability to hit up a target inside 50, but if he can't do the basics then he's not a leader.