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Farewell Sam Weideman

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  On 04/08/2022 at 05:40, Redleg said:

BBB is limited with a knee injury and we have no one else ATM, as an experienced and fit key forward.

Jack Watts would be in our team tomorrow night, if he was Weid's age and on our list.

Yes I can say we would be better off ATM, with him. It is my opinion. 

My comments on him were really in answer to a poster who said Weid and Watts were the same and both failures. Watts played 150 games for us in a far worse side. I could see Spargo, Tracc and others passing to Watts, who would kick goals for us and was a better mark and kick than Weid as well. I am not saying he was a champion, but is a better player than Weid and would be handy in this far better Demons side.

For all the stuff Watts copped, he could seriously kick some clutch goals when needed.

His set shot for goal was elite 

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    The Weid is certainly sitting in limbo now. Dropped a few games out from the finals with BB ahead of him with what seems to be our finals forward structure of 1 tall forward with Max or LJ helping out. With TMac, JVR and even Joel Smith as options ahead of a recall. Watched the replay again of last weeks game, Weid got to numerous aerial contests but each time he was doing little more than being part of the numbers, occassionally getting a defensive fist in to spoil. He doesn’t seem to have any ability to impose his body into a contest up forward, taking the initiative to crash a pack or decisively punch a ball away. He is just there. Back up ruck for Jackson now I suppose. 

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    I reckon the Weed needs a good mullet or a mohawk to get his mojo back.  He is capable as he showed in the 2018 finals but it's like he doesn't believe he belongs or is capable of imposing himself on the game.  In any case he is certainly at a cross road and I'd love nothing more than for the Weed to really show what he is capable of if he sorts out his haircut.

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      On 04/08/2022 at 11:18, chookrat said:

    I reckon the Weed needs a good mullet or a mohawk to get his mojo back.  He is capable as he showed in the 2018 finals but it's like he doesn't believe he belongs or is capable of imposing himself on the game.  In any case he is certainly at a cross road and I'd love nothing more than for the Weed to really show what he is capable of if he sorts out his haircut.

    Weid's like the Benjamin Button of football

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    Nup unfortunately needs to find a new home I think!

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    Can't we just give the Weid a week off from smacking him on the internet given he's not even playing?

    Gets a bit tired.

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      On 04/08/2022 at 11:33, old dee said:

    Honestly who would want him? 

    Poor form OD. 

    Your view of the Weed is well known. Just let it go. 

    He is a Melbourne player and deserves better. 

    Sam has been disappointing but let’s leave the derogatory comments and allow team selection to do the talking. 

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      On 04/08/2022 at 13:22, BenF said:

    I'm sick of Weid, needs to be offloaded, total liability.

    I get that people don't love the guy but there's ways to get a point like this across without sounding like a total a***

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      On 04/08/2022 at 11:08, Earl Hood said:

    The Weid is certainly sitting in limbo now. Dropped a few games out from the finals with BB ahead of him with what seems to be our finals forward structure of 1 tall forward with Max or LJ helping out. With TMac, JVR and even Joel Smith as options ahead of a recall. Watched the replay again of last weeks game, Weid got to numerous aerial contests but each time he was doing little more than being part of the numbers, occassionally getting a defensive fist in to spoil. He doesn’t seem to have any ability to impose his body into a contest up forward, taking the initiative to crash a pack or decisively punch a ball away. He is just there. Back up ruck for Jackson now I suppose. 

    I never liked his style and enthusiasm for the footy. At one point, he was (it appeared) developing an ability to enter the pack contests from the side as a late entrant but this seemed to stop after a few heavy falls without the ball. He can kick for goal, well.

    He is better suited to the Casey team and game, without mobile, big defenders down his neck who move him out of nearly every contest with ease. 

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      On 04/08/2022 at 13:22, BenF said:

    I'm sick of Weid, needs to be offloaded, total liability.

    Angry Meryl Streep GIF

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    If Jackson goes then I would still keep weid to play that role, he seems to play better when he starts in the ruck and floats forward 

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      On 04/08/2022 at 21:45, brendan said:

    If Jackson goes then I would still keep weid to play that role, he seems to play better when he starts in the ruck and floats forward 

    Not sure if Sam wants to stick around but that is a perfectly capable situation for next year if we get in some back up ruck competition for him.

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      On 04/08/2022 at 13:45, hemingway said:

    Poor form OD. 

    Your view of the Weed is well known. Just let it go. 

    He is a Melbourne player and deserves better. 

    Sam has been disappointing but let’s leave the derogatory comments and allow team selection to do the talking. 

    I agree and I wrote a piece early on in this thread to that effect. It is a statement of fact. Nothing more or less. 

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    I think he still has next year on a contract so he's not worth chopping. Mitch Brown would go before him. 

    He is still serviceable as a last line backup forward/ruck but I would say he has blown his chances now for season 2022 - unless we have a serious injury that we need him to cover

     

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      On 04/08/2022 at 21:45, brendan said:

    If Jackson goes then I would still keep weid to play that role, he seems to play better when he starts in the ruck and floats forward 

    Fair point.

    If Weid replaced Jackson as the second ruck tonight, how much worse would be off?

    I'd argue not much.

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      On 05/08/2022 at 03:21, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Fair point.

    If Weid replaced Jackson as the second ruck tonight, how much worse would be off?

    I'd argue not much.

    OMG you cannot be serious 

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      On 05/08/2022 at 03:25, Sydee said:

    OMG you cannot be serious 

    Yes am serious.

    Weid involves himself more as a pinch hitting ruck and is more of a goal kicking threat  than Jackson when inside 50.

    Add in the minor detail that Jackson is having a terrible season when combining injury and the distraction that is his future. Would be lucky to be in the top 18 in the bluey.

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      On 05/08/2022 at 03:25, Sydee said:

    OMG you cannot be serious 

    Weid does better as a second ruck/forward than solely as a key forward. I actually thought he was good that week both Max and Dogga were not playing. 

    He's depth for our club. Not on a long or I assume, expensive contract. If posters can get over him being a pick 9 and look at him as inexpensive depth, then he's worth keeping as back up. He's worth more to us than what we'd be getting in any trade, especially if Dogga leaves and we still have no developing 2nd ruck

    However, if traded at years end I won't begrudge him the opportunity for a fresh start

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    Seen a few comments after his efforts in the ruck yesterday.

    Unless we are trying to find a direct unicorn replacement for LJ I think the better option would be Weideman to back up Gawn with a ‘cheap’ or young ruckman at Casey to back both up. Then I would make a play for an established tall forward with the cap space and the draft capital revived for LJ.

    With Brown/TMac 2 years away from kaput - this year or next we need to source their replacement. Is it van rooyen? Maybe. Is he big enough? 

    Sam as back up takes the pressure off his forward craft and positioning and allows us to play a ruck who is good enough forward while also good enough in the ruck.

    Can Sam be an adequate back up ruck in a top 4 team?

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