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Farewell Sam Weideman

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

It's Jack Watts all over again. We draft a tall kid with supposed skills who we expect will "fill out" and grow into the physical aspects of the position that we recruited them to play. Weid has no mongrel. Zero. It shows every time he runs 2m under the ball when someone is on his hammer. I'd call it something far less flattering, but that would certainly get me a ban. And if memory serves it was his "courage in the air" that had our team choose him over others.....

It's an ongoing weakness in our recruiting team. We seem to be ok at identifying defenders and very good at mid size players, but give us a crack at picking a tall forward and they seem to fall apart. Lets hope V.R is a notable exception.

 

To be fair to JT and the crew Weid used to really fly at the ball. And we’ll forever have the Geelong final which included big marks and huge tackles. Weid is now a mess but it’s lack of confidence and lack of athleticism that impact as much as mongrel. Fritsch has no mongrel, but he reads the play and has the speed to get the ball.

Harry McKay was in that draft and he was fairly soft as a junior. All skill and athletic potential. Curnow was the easy pick IMO, but he had off field misdemeanours and I think they thought he was a bit similar to Hogan.

When it came to Luke Jackson the recruiters saw a tall with incredible athleticism and the right physicality and had to grab him.

I don’t think we’ve drafted enough talls in general. They’re lottery tickets and it’s best to just keep buying them.

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    41 minutes ago, DemonWA said:

    Not sure how anyone can say he's finished. He's not in great form and is potentially destined to always be more of a backup 22 player, but he's needed on our list IMO. Our other KPF stocks are aging and injured (Brown and McDonald), young (Roo) or on the way out (Jackson). 

    Unless we somehow flush ourselves with walk up 22 quality tall stocks Weid is not finished imo

    That's all well and good and mostly correct,  but if Weid is anything more than forward depth or an occasional cover for an injured ruck he may not be finished but our flag hopes certainly are 

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    32 minutes ago, IRW said:

    That's all well and good and mostly correct,  but if Weid is anything more than forward depth or an occasional cover for an injured ruck he may not be finished but our flag hopes certainly are 

    Flag hopes finished? Did you watch the game on Friday? Destroyed a legitimate contender on their home deck. Weid didn't get the ball, but he didn't get outmarked - halved alot of contests and played his role in the conditions. Sometimes that's enough. 

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    Levi Casboult is a limited AFL key forward, but he at least has one trick - pack marking.

    Weideman is an unathletic key forward with not a single standout AFL attribute.

    Handy VFL player, but he's done at AFL level.

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    59 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    I don’t think we’ve drafted enough talls in general. They’re lottery tickets and it’s best to just keep buying them.

    Or... we trade for talls already in the system that meet our specific needs. May, Lever, BBB.

    I'm more in the camp that the the draft is a bit of a lottery. We paid 2 x 1st rounders for Lever, pick 6 for May.

    If Dogga leaves, I'd hope we use the pick/s to go hard on an established key forward. That is, unless we have a FA in mind for next year. 

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    13 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

    Levi Casboult is a limited AFL key forward, but he at least has one trick - pack marking.

    I wish we picked him up this year. Would be starting full forward every week, and suit our game plan very well.

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    1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

    I wish we picked him up this year. Would be starting full forward every week, and suit our game plan very well.

    He's be extremely handy, but I'm not sure the site could cope with him kicking 1 goal 8 every week.

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    4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

    Given your stated musical preferences, I'm not sure if they would be your cup of tea, PF.  This early song of theirs would be a good starting point.  If you like it, I'd recommend "Frontier Psychiatrist" as the next stepping stone.

    Their style could be described as electronic and they make extensive use of samples.  In this song, they used something like 3,500 vinyl samples!

     

     

    Guinness world record for number of samples right there. 

    You picked a great song as an intro, DS. And the vid is outstanding. 

    But yeah, I can’t imagine PF will like this band. They aren’t exactly on heavy rotation on Gold104. 😁

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    28 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

    Or... we trade for talls already in the system that meet our specific needs. May, Lever, BBB.

    I'm more in the camp that the the draft is a bit of a lottery. We paid 2 x 1st rounders for Lever, pick 6 for May.

    If Dogga leaves, I'd hope we use the pick/s to go hard on an established key forward. That is, unless we have a FA in mind for next year. 

    I’m certainly in favour of trading for quality talls, I meant more with late picks particularly for rucks and tall defenders. Disco’s a nice player to have on the list, we could do with a similar prospect as a ruck and even a utility. 

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    2 hours ago, rpfc said:

    If your choice is between Weid and McStay; you need to leave the store.

    We’re not shopping for Valentine’s gifts here.

    Pickings are slim ATM.
    We don't need a McStay as we've got the Weid already.
    McStay has found himself in a good position.
    Very likely to get paid big overs for his output.

     

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    2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

     Fritsch has no mongrel, but he reads the play and has the speed to get the ball.

    I beg to differ about the mongrel.
    His forearm fend off a couple years back to his karate kid crane knee in the marking contest a few weeks ago against the lions.
    That bloke thought he had his chest cavity caved in.
    Might not look like he's got mongrel .... But it's there 😎

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    3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

     

    Weid stays in until Ben Brown is right to go. Which is likely Friday.

    And I don't know why.
    Brown has also done nothing.

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    One thing is that he might get a hard wrap on here but the collective will of all MFC supporters just want him to succeed.

    To heat the crowd yell "Weid!" in unison when he takes a mark or kicks a goal is fabulous, and I hope gives him a feeling of support and encouragement.

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    57 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Pickings are slim ATM.
    We don't need a McStay as we've got the Weid already.
    McStay has found himself in a good position.
    Very likely to get paid big overs for his output.

     

    I agree with the premise, makes the take of @DeeSpencerthat McStay is equal to Angus Brayshaw even more laughable.

    McStay lucky to stay in this Lions team.

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    21 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Josh Bruce had 2 disposals against us, manned by Tomlinson for a portion of the game.

    Matt Taberner - who’s actually handy at his best - had 6 disposals last night. Felt like 2.

    There’s no way to describe a 1 possession game as good but I don’t think it was Sam’s worst

    What do u want a minus 1 possesion??

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    1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

    And I don't know why.
    Brown has also done nothing.

    At least you know he's on the ground 

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    11 minutes ago, loges said:

    At least you know he's on the ground 

    Only cause of the hair 😅

     

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    22 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Josh Bruce had 2 disposals against us, manned by Tomlinson for a portion of the game.

    Matt Taberner - who’s actually handy at his best - had 6 disposals last night. Felt like 2.

    There’s no way to describe a 1 possession game as good but I don’t think it was Sam’s worst

    You appear to enjoy taking the [censored]

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    2 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

    And I don't know why.
    Brown has also done nothing.

    Except for 23 goals - 3rd on our goal kicking list

     

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    My gazzilions for a Tom Lynch, even an ageing Riewoldt both GREAT !

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    32 minutes ago, Jontee said:

    Except for 23 goals - 3rd on our goal kicking list

     

    Sorry but, 23 from a full forward is garbage.

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    17 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Sorry but, 23 from a full forward is garbage.

    Browns missed 5 games. Not elite but doing an adequate job given interruptions and lack of support. 

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    McStay can take a mark unlike the Weid.  Far better player imo

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    33 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Sorry but, 23 from a full forward is garbage.

    I beg to differ missed games and brings ball to ground

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    2 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

    Only cause of the hair 😅

     

    And the Premiership medal.

     

    It has been less than 12mths since the boys changed our world. How people can already bag them is beyond me.

     

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