Trade Targets

[Demonic 40]

The Weideman article says he is 25. He is 24. Not only that, 4 weeks ago he was 23. 

I'm all up for Bolton but he's going to cost an early first rounder. And Harry Mckay could cost 3 first rounders. He's the coleman medal leader and is super young. Quite possibly the highest value player in the afl.  There's no way he gets prized out of Carlton without paying an arm and 2 legs. 

 

[Dwight Schrute 16,797]

13 hours ago, faultydet said:

His manager may have something to do with his contract demands.

Fair call though.

Potentially yeah, and certainly not blaming him, he's exploded as a player and deserves a serious pay packed. it's always hard to know what the offer from the current team is, players do sometimes get miffed if it's a lot lower than what the other team offers

[Redleg 37,635]

14 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

What about Dawson from the Swans out of contract and it doesn't seem close to a new contract ATM.

He won’t be leaving Swans. 

[spirit of norm smith 12,949]

Fiorini again looking very good today. Good skills. Inside and outside wingman. At the moment, he’d probably been an upgrade on Brayshaw. 

[Flag Favourites 3019 112]

Jeremy Sharp

Ultimate wingman

[leave it to deever 15,483]

Wrong thread.Again.

Edited July 24, 2021 by leave it to deever

[spirit of norm smith 12,949]

23 minutes ago, Flag Favourites 3019 said:

Jeremy Sharp

Ultimate wingman

Agree. JT definitely had him as an option in the 2019 draft. Good pace and skilled. Suns has plenty of good youngsters.  

[Lord Travis 10,167]

20 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. JT definitely had him as an option in the 2019 draft. Good pace and skilled. Suns has plenty of good youngsters.  

Has good endurance and pace, but reason he slid out of the first round was poor skills. We were interested but obviously went for others and looks like we made the right call.

[whatwhat say what 19,011]

fiorini is even worse than gus when picking whether he's going to apply a scintilla of defensive pressure

it's a no from me

[Engorged Onion 9,301]

6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

scintilla

legitimate unit of measurement?

[whatwhat say what 19,011]

3 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

legitimate unit of measurement?

it's a vibe

[Flag Favourites 3019 112]

Another 30+ touches and a goal from Jeremy Sharp. Exactly what we need. 

[spirit of norm smith 12,949]

3 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Has good endurance and pace, but reason he slid out of the first round was poor skills. We were interested but obviously went for others and looks like we made the right call.

We had LJ and kozzzy.  Then I reckon it was Deven Robertson, Trent Rivers and Jeremy Sharp.  Happy with the Riv. 

[cantstandyasam 700]

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

We had LJ and kozzzy.  Then I reckon it was Deven Robertson, Trent Rivers and Jeremy Sharp.  Happy with the Riv. 

2 goals in a minute - wow

[cantstandyasam 700]

Just now, cantstandyasam said:

2 goals in a minute - wow

decisive ruck play

[Roger Mellie 3,504]

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Fiorini again looking very good today. Good skills. Inside and outside wingman. At the moment, he’d probably been an upgrade on Brayshaw. 

Just what we don't need. Poor skills and poor decisions. Sharp on the other hand....

[Gawndy the Great 7,423]

The Tiger's dynasty is over anyone on that list wanting to chace more premierships should be on our target list. Bolton, Baker, Sydney Stack (questionalbe) are the three i think are young and hungry enough.

There is also the Suns, which i'd expect to trade in some draft picks for experienced players. We should look at offering up a mature bodied player that would compliment their gaps, which is leadership and contested footy to help their outside players - Viney, Harmes, Gus would be the first few i'd look to put up. If they were interested in Weid, id look at that quite favourably. 

We have to be super aggressive this year and relentless if we are going to be a serious threat in the next few years. You just have to look at the Doggies list to see what we have to compete with, because they will not be wasting anytime trying to target backmen to complete their masterpiece. 

 

[The heart beats true 16,206]

If I was the list boss I’d be looking to trade in 2 things…

Outside skilled midfielder to play the wing. Someone ready to step in. Prefer under 25 but as long as we get 3 seasons then I’d be happy.

Half forward flanker with elite foot skills to deliver the ball into the 50. 

To get those 2 things I say we give up an inside mid and Weed.

Then draft for the best available.

[BW511 2,246]

3 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

If I was the list boss I’d be looking to trade in 2 things…

Outside skilled midfielder to play the wing. Someone ready to step in. Prefer under 25 but as long as we get 3 seasons then I’d be happy.

Half forward flanker with elite foot skills to deliver the ball into the 50. 

To get those 2 things I say we give up an inside mid and Weed.

Then draft for the best available.

Would want a half forward flanker who has played that position at a high level too, not another mid that we try and rebrand.

Elite finishing skills are a must and we still lack a couple between the centre square and our goalsquare.

 

[The heart beats true 16,206]

9 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Would want a half forward flanker who has played that position at a high level too, not another mid that we try and rebrand.

Elite finishing skills are a must and we still lack a couple between the centre square and our goalsquare.

 

Agree. Sadly I have no idea who these players are, but that’s my laundry list. 

[BW511 2,246]

27 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Agree. Sadly I have no idea who these players are, but that’s my laundry list. 

It’s a very hard position to play and an even smaller chance of prying the few good ones out of their current setups

Daniels from GWS, Rozee at Power, Sexton from Suns, Cripps from West Coast and obviously Papley and Heeney at the Swans are all high quality Half Forwards, but none of that lot are easy to get hold of.

 

[Gawndy the Great 7,423]

On 7/23/2021 at 10:52 PM, Dwight Schrute said:

Gut feel is Bolten will go to whoever offers him the most money. which probably rules us out right away. i'd imagine a team like Freo might offer good $$$ and a swaip might occur including Cerra back to the Tigers. 

that actually makes sense... with bolton having tasted success, he is probably now keen to get the $$$

[Gawndy the Great 7,423]

On 7/23/2021 at 11:08 PM, rpfc said:

So sigh Shai Bolton instead of Weideman?

Where do we fit his extra $400k in the cap?

We have our stars - and 3 of them are in the midfield with Langdon as much of a star that a wing can be.

Without knowing our cap position directly - one cannot assume we have much wriggle room for players like Bolton.

To paraphrase Don Rumsfeld; unless we trade a star, we are going to war with the midfield we have.

agree its a long shot. however no player would want to leave a team that is building ... our only hope comes from teams that will be on the down or are have precarious situation. 

1. Richmond. The dynasty is over. They will be a long way away from a tilt at the flag. Expect them to be competitiv for the next 2-3 years before putting up he white flag for a rebuild. 
2. Collingwood. Rebuild mode - plumb for the picking.
3. Geelong - maybe they have one more year after this year, but its an aging list so we may be able to target the youth that are not getting a game.  
4. GWS. Looks like since the 2019 GF, they are neither here or there. Their core is starting to age and they have a few that will come of contract and ask for too much given the coin that Coniglio, Kelly and others are demanding. 
5. Carlton / Suns / Freo. Probably have 1 more year up their sleeves before players want to chase success. 
6. WB: They have huge talent on their list that are not getting game time. We maybe able to pluck a player here, but not many would want to leave given their potential to win a few flags. 

[whatwhat say what 19,011]

if gc17 really are after a two players for their top pick, i'd happily give them brayshaw and weideman

[adonski 9,151]

Brayshaw + a pick for Cerra is the move 

One of Bowey or Rivers to the wing next season

Balances things out