GAMEDAY: Rd 16 vs Fremantle

[Redleg 38,111]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

since when was 9 days less than a week?

Dan Andrews has just declared it a law.

[Jack7 463]

4 hours ago, Die Hard Demon said:

The match tonight will go one of the 2 following ways: 

1. We will fall over the line in a close, ugly and uninspiring match. The players will act as if they've just won the flag and the club will tell us how we're building momentum. The supporters will roll their eyes, and go to bed with an empty and soulless feeling. 

2. We will lose in a close, ugly and uninspiring match. The players will seem disappointed but ensure that we've improved in certain areas and reiterate that if we didn't have a mental lapse for those 15 minutes we would have won. Goodwin will tell us that while he's disappointed we didn't win, we're not far off. The supporters want to be angry but can't be f'd, the call for Goody's head intensifies.

3. Jesse Hogan will exorcise his Mental Demons and kick 7 Goals and finish our season.

[Demons11 6,404]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Forget the mathematics. If we can't win these last 3 games then we don't deserve to be playing in the finals.

We should not be rewarded for our competition falling over.

Bradbury be damned.

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[daisycutter 28,704]

22 minutes ago, layzie said:

I do stand corrected and apologise, they are all melting into one. 

know the feeling

[Ethan Tremblay 28,567]

I’d be happy to Bradbury into finals this season and most definitely be happy to Bradbury a flag. 

[Demons11 6,404]

37 minutes ago, D4Life said:

I don’t understand how Lockhart can’t get a game in the backline!

Team just feels unbalanced.

One key forward, only one crummier in the pocket

Zero confidence! 

Just hope we can manage a win!

Go Demons!

 

One Crumber? Pickett, Bedford and ANB.  How many do you want?

[daisycutter 28,704]

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

One Crumber? Pickett, Bedford and ANB.  How many do you want?

how many goals have crumbers kicked this season anyway?

 

[gs77 3,442]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’d be happy to Bradbury into finals this season and most definitely be happy to Bradbury a flag. 

7 wins. All we need is 7 wins. 

[sue 8,479]

54 minutes ago, SFebes said:

We should win, with ease, but I'm sure we will play rubbish with no strategy and then get a run on at the end, a normal flat track bully game imo. But it will still prove, we are going nowhere under Simon. Must say, thanks to a lot of posters sarcasm has got me through lately, even the  positive posters are having a laugh! 

I can't see that 'we should win with ease' when our opponents were compettive against Richmond. It's almost as if people want to magnify the significance of losing tonight as much as possible so as to be as miserable as possible when we lose.    I'd have thought we endure enough misery without boosting it.

[buck_nekkid 5,590]

I am feeling like I have PTSD watching the MFC.  I feeling like I am in some kind of avoidant emotional state but I can’t look away.   
 

out history suggests we will crash and burn at one of three remaining hurdles.  We are too busy looking for ‘learnings’ and not getting it done.  Prove me wrong, MFC.  Be my therapy dog instead of Blimpy, the lactose intolerant cat.

[Clayton van Oliver 1,702]

8 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

I am feeling like I have PTSD watching the MFC.  I feeling like I am in some kind of avoidant emotional state but I can’t look away.   
 

out history suggests we will crash and burn at one of three remaining hurdles.  We are too busy looking for ‘learnings’ and not getting it done.  Prove me wrong, MFC.  Be my therapy dog instead of Blimpy, the lactose intolerant cat.

It is seriously an abusive relationship. Talking to the old man last night, both head in hands at the prospect of what would be dished up today (anybody’s guess) and, not for the first time, he apologised profusely for what he had gotten me in to when he stuck a Dees jumper on me for my first vickick 30 years ago.

Edited September 7, 2020 by AmDamDemon

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

ANd if we miss finals ..........

then we will have made finals once since 2006 - once in 14 seasons.

In a comp where 8 teams out of 18 make it every year

just pack up and turn the lights out

Thanks Simon.

I'm prepared to cut Goodwin some slack for the 9 years since 2006 he wasn't here!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

If we stink it up tonight, this thread could become the biggest pile of slop this site has ever seen.

[Older demon 2,200]

I have a bad feeling about tonight which is the opposite to how I felt about the Swans game. Freo chase, tackle and defend well while applying lots of pressure. Just the sort of team we don't like playing against and this is when we over handle the ball and bomb it. 7 changes may bring in fresh legs but these guys haven't played together in ages and with Picket, Rivers and Bedford we are playing 3 first year players and expecting a lot off them. Baker hasn't played many either. I fear our midfield might be overwhelmed by Mundy and Fyfe who were part of a team that pushed Richmond to the limit.

I don't know who will kick our goals and do enough to compile a winning score. I cannot bear to watch.

[Scipio 5,868]

Expecting Baker to play really well tonight and I'm keen to see him back in action.

As for our season, I'm predicting we'll beat Fremantle, dominate GWS in a commanding display and then roll over to Essendon by 10 goals... my MFC predicto-meter threw that out as the most likely result (a 99% chance).

[Bitter but optimistic 21,560]

2 minutes ago, Older demon said:

I have a bad feeling about tonight which is the opposite to how I felt about the Swans game. Freo chase, tackle and defend well while applying lots of pressure. Just the sort of team we don't like playing against and this is when we over handle the ball and bomb it. 7 changes may bring in fresh legs but these guys haven't played together in ages and with Picket, Rivers and Bedford we are playing 3 first year players and expecting a lot off them. Baker hasn't played many either. I fear our midfield might be overwhelmed by Mundy and Fyfe who were part of a team that pushed Richmond to the limit.

I don't know who will kick our goals and do enough to compile a winning score. I cannot bear to watch.

You don't seem at all confident of a win Older !!

[Fritta and Turner 3,842]

24 degrees, quite pleasant, still windy but it has dropped, trying to drizzle....after last weeks non performance I'm not going....

[Damo 3,030]

Max Gawn 3.00 to kick at least one goal. I reckon he will be drifting forward a lot. That miss must have hurt.

Combine with Clayton 25+ will pay $6.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

55 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’d be happy to Bradbury into finals this season and most definitely be happy to Bradbury a flag. 

 We would have to win 7 straight games.  Including 4 finals, which includes a prelim and a granny.

The odds would be 1 million to  1 a best

 

[sue 8,479]

3 minutes ago, Damo said:

Max Gawn 3.00 to kick at least one goal. I reckon he will be drifting forward a lot. That miss must have hurt.

Combine with Clayton 25+ will pay $6.

Can we bet on the colour of their boots as well?   World's gone mad.

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Forget the mathematics.

Heeeeeeeeeere's some mathematics!

 

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

then we will have made finals once since 2006 - once in 14 seasons.

In a comp where 8 teams out of 18 make it every year

 

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Almost a 50% probability. When you remember it included GWS and GCS in their formative years it really is a rubbish record.

If making finals was completely random... 8 chances in 18 every year = 44.4% likely to play finals

The chance that you do not play finals at all in 14 years = 0.02%

The chance that you play finals once only in 14 years = 0.3%

The highest probability outcome is that you would play finals 6 times in that 14 years span (21% likely).

[Deesprate 1,215]

This team look more balanced to me and we have at least had some time to get used to the surroundings. I read in this site a lot about how the current club cant be held accountable for 50 years of failure. Whilst that is true I think culturally a loser mindset has been handed down year to year. If you look at our leaders Gawn; Jones; Viney none of them have experienced success. I think it is why we dont beat good team or make finals there is simply no winning culture. People like to compare Goodwin to Thompson/Hardwick but they both came out of winning environments. Goodwin had involvement in a winning culture in Adelaide but that was over 20 years ago. His apprenticeship as coach came from a losing culture at Essendon.

The acceptance of losing was amply demonstrated by Gawn after the Swans game. I found his comment that there were positives out of the game alarming and his lack of leadership to turn thing on the field a major worry. I just think the Dees lack uncompromising leaders who refuse to accept the concept of losing.To me we just appear to damn nice and accepting of defeat and I think Goodwin personality perpetuates that. I think Vanders is an essential component of this team as he is one of our few truly unsociable footballers. He hurt players not in a sniping way but a brutal attack on the ball way. I expect the Dees to run over Freo tonight but until some mongrel get into this team we are are flaky week to week proposition. IF Goodwin fails which I fully expect he will no doubt be given more time next year but at the end of this period of failure can we for goodness sake get a hard nosed coach from a winning culture. That why if we could a move for Clarkson make so much sense.    

[old dee 23,020]

21 minutes ago, Luther said:

Expecting Baker to play really well tonight and I'm keen to see him back in action.

As for our season, I'm predicting we'll beat Fremantle, dominate GWS in a commanding display and then roll over to Essendon by 10 goals... my MFC predicto-meter threw that out as the most likely result (a 99% chance).

It is asking a lot of a guy who has only played scratch matches this year to suddenly come in and play a very good game first up. 

Edited September 7, 2020 by old dee

[Ted Lasso 17,144]

Bizarre selections once again, and Freo are a very competitive team. tipping us to really struggle in this game. 

Thinking it'll be a live game with 5 minutes to go

Tipping the dockers by 7 points

 

[Demon Dynasty 16,032]

1 hour ago, sue said:

I can't see that 'we should win with ease' when our opponents were compettive against Richmond. It's almost as if people want to magnify the significance of losing tonight as much as possible so as to be as miserable as possible when we lose.    I'd have thought we endure enough misery without boosting it.

I would have to agree with you on that one Sue.  There are certainly no easy matches, bar possibly the Hawks & Norf but that said, on paper we should have beaten the Swans and should beat Freo this evening.

On a mental toughness basis?  Who knows.  Throw a die with six substantially differing variables and this team could very well land on any one of them.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Rusty Nails