The Choice: Christian Petracca or Paddy McCartin

[one_demon 826]

If StKilda had taken Petracca, would we of taken McCartin?

[daisycutter 29,797]

5 minutes ago, one_demon said:

If StKilda had taken Petracca, would we of taken McCartin?

no, we would have taken brayshaw and lever

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

no, we would have taken brayshaw and lever

Roos said we would have taken McCartin, I hope he was lying.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

If my aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

6 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Roos said we would have taken McCartin, I hope he was lying.

Thank [censored] they took mc'concussion. Tracc worst year is better then mc'concussion best season, Even before all the concussions.

Edited August 30, 2020 by don't make me angry

[praha 11,240]

Was Toumpas a mistake?

[FritschyBusiness 1,478]

On 8/29/2020 at 10:35 AM, Cranky Franky said:

I call BS on this.

Koschitzke retired at the end of 2013 and Nick Riewoldt was getting on so St Kilda was keen to get a key forward & McCartin was the obvious choice as he was the only key fwd among the top draft picks (McCartin, Petracca, Brayshaw).

 

This is what happened ^
Paddy was always number 1 for them and they were being pressured by their supporters to draft the next gun forward

[Lucifers Hero 40,439]

I recall two points in particular.

1.  Roos said we will take whoever the Saints don't of McCartin/Petracca.  I often wondered if this was a red herring to con them into taking McCartin. I doubt we would have taken McCartin as we still had Watts, Hogan and clearly had our sights on Weideman who we drafted the following year so we were well served for tall fwds.  And Roos was desperate to build up our midfield before other parts of the team.  I reckon it was always Petracca and Brayshaw. 

2. The saints wanted their next Reiwoldt but also Richardson knew Petracca's family very well and they were a bit concerned that would colour his judgement.  They took McCartin

We got the star!

Edited August 30, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Whispering_Jack 30,946]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

no, we would have taken brayshaw and lever

I attended a club function before the draft in question. Although, he wasn’t saying definitively who he would pick, the strong impression given by Jason Taylor was that the top three picks were McCartin, Petracca and Brayshaw (but not necessarily in that order) and that irrespective of whoever St Kilda chose with selection #1, then Melbourne would choose the other two. In other words, had they chosen Petracca, then we would have taken McCartin instead.

[Biffen 12,949]

On 8/29/2020 at 11:23 AM, Queanbeyan Demon said:

psychometric tests = largely discredited. 

Brain is a part of the body.

2% in size but 20-25% energy use.

[daisycutter 29,797]

5 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Brain is a part of the body.

2% in size but 20-25% energy use.

and for filth supporters, biffo?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 hour ago, praha said:

Was Toumpas a mistake?

I actually wonder how Toumpas would go out on a wing for us these days.  

For all our recent success, we certainly missed quite a few during that period.

Edit - and, by these days, I mean had he someone we drafted in 2018.  I don't mean how would he go right now as a bloke in his mid 20s.

Edited August 30, 2020 by Wiseblood

[Mach5 4,768]

Sydney not matching and letting us have Heeney along with Trac would have been a godsend, but I shudder to think what may have happened if Sydney blinked and let us have Callum Mills instead of Clarry.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,168]

Meh. Worked out well for us, time to move on. 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay

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On 8/29/2020 at 10:12 AM, Mr Steve said:

Gee that Richo is not a very good judge of players, wonder what poor club has him now. 

He picked jackson

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On 8/29/2020 at 6:03 PM, Pates said:

It’s nice to have one draft year where the top picks we took have turned into players while the team with number one got no return. 

It’s taken a little longer than we would like but Trac is starting to use the gifts he has, he looks so much better when he takes on the FIGJAM mentality. That’s not to say he should be selfish but last week against the doggies he had the old look of not being sure. 

Hopefully Christian can REALY make them regret not taking him today. 

For Paddy, I think the Saints were desperate for a forward to take over from Reiwoldt. 

Paddy always a spud, was so happy the saints pick him, you could always tell tracc was a Martin type player.

[Siren 156]

We would have taken Paddy and internally we were quite excited by him as a prospect. 

At the time Lever was thought to have the potential as a big bodied midfielder but did his knee so was never in contention seriously for the early picks

[monoccular 17,607]

Who will ever know - concussions can ruin a career.  Ask KK.

Season 1 with CP and his knee the question would have been asked again.  Cant be bothered trawling back through the D'land archives but I am sure there was discussion.

Still, we have won this one

[4_Kent_Watts 895]

On 8/29/2020 at 9:31 AM, Demonland said:

 

 We obviously used the same test for Dusty. Although to be fair I think it was recognised that T.S and Trenners were going 1-2. And I wasn't unhappy at all at the time. I can punch myself in the head now tho.

[4_Kent_Watts 895]

8 hours ago, praha said:

Was Toumpas a mistake?

 Was Lucas Cook...Ahem Jack Darling says hi. 

[daisycutter 29,797]

1 minute ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

 Was Lucas Cook...Ahem Jack Darling says hi. 

ah yes, red flags darling.....i remember well

so clever of the weagles made sure everyone knew

[4_Kent_Watts 895]

On 8/29/2020 at 2:30 PM, Pickett2Jackson said:

yeah him too.

As for Watts, Toumpas, Scully, Trengove, Sylvia, McLean, Johnstone, Morton....

I hope you ain't referring to Travis, if so I disagree.

[deelusions from afar 1,867]

I thought we were after lever as a big bodied midfielder - i think we were looking to take him with richmond's pick if trengove went to them?

[58er 6,679]

While we can smile ( a little smugly) NOW there has not been such love for Trac universally over The journey.

Remember  these posts will be still on line somewhere in D/L  from drunken fans, also frustrated supporters about his shocking set goal kicking  his lack of a tank His less numbers up forward and inability to play a starring role in our wins or losses.

2019 was a breakout development year but Trac wanted midfield time and his Msnager  met Mahoney and I Think Goody after season end to discuss his wishes.

I read that talks were friendly enough but the ball was clearly in Tracs court to get fitter and more endurance  ie a tank to enable him to perform in this  role Say 60/70% of game time and not  just cameos.

Fast forward snd the new Trac prob with Burgess precision emerged that Marsh practice  game  at Casey  in a flurry of 30 plus possesssions etc 

A new Star was Born !!  Footy world sit up and take notice. I am serious and want to show off my considerable talent !

Well we have come along for  the ride and it's getting better and more engrossing nearly every match. If ever Dusty is chop sticked out of footy never fear Trac is here!!

He really is aClone with his powerful body surging pace and acceleration and weaves rather than fends off, as well as grabs marks beyond his size with a vice like grip! A get out clause for goals when needed indeed.Like Dusty no real left foot to speak of!

Hasn't he matured at public speaking all serious and only a spark of his humour occasionally.

Just let him play and win matches and let Band F and Brownlows take care of themselves   I want a Norm  Smith medal but it's now getting a lot harder with Clarry Maxy snd Stevan May  all A grade bona fides coming along in the same ride.

Well done  Christian May you get your rewards now as you have earned the right to whatever comes your way.

[SPC 3,571]

Appreciate the tread to understand from a sliding doors perspective, just as long as we are not smug about St Kilda’s luck with McCartin.. We have butchered more drafts picks than we have got right in the last 15 years.