Tom Lynch Incident (incl. Dimma vs The Ox)

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1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Someone needs to actually have a serious word to the Tigers. We've seen the stuff happening onfield with staging and punching etc, then we had Dimma's poor comments about Schwarz (particularly poor given it's the same club involved with Shane Tuck, Danny Frawley and Reece McKenzie) and now their CEO has made an appalling comment comparing Lynch's treatment to that of serial killer Ivan Milat.

Imagine being the family of one of Milat's victims and being reminded of the horror and tragedy because an [censored] CEO thought his undisciplined forward was being victimized like a murderer. Absolutely pathetic coming from someone spoken about as a potential replacement for Gil.

Read here:

“Tom plays it pretty hard and he cops a lot, he plays a physical brand of footy, but the scrutiny and the attention he’s received, it’s outrageous,” he told 3AW Sportsday.

“I can’t believe it, it’s like he’s Ivan Milat,” Gale quipped, referring to the serial killer who took the lives of seven backpackers in the early 1990s.

‘Like he’s Ivan Milat’: Tigers CEO stunned by ‘outrageous’ criticism of Tom Lynch

The way the Tuggers are carrying on is reminiscent of the likes of the Hawks and Cats when they became the league leaders. I remembered the Cats getting up in arms about people questioning the “Buddy Arc” and Chris Scott whining about people talking about Selwood and Dangermouse’s ducking. 

So congrats Richmond, that’s what you’ve become. The team that is so used to getting their own way that when people question things about them they stoop to the lowest of lows. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

11 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Someone needs to actually have a serious word to the Tigers. We've seen the stuff happening onfield with staging and punching etc, then we had Dimma's poor comments about Schwarz (particularly poor given it's the same club involved with Shane Tuck, Danny Frawley and Reece McKenzie) and now their CEO has made an appalling comment comparing Lynch's treatment to that of serial killer Ivan Milat.

Imagine being the family of one of Milat's victims and being reminded of the horror and tragedy because an [censored] CEO thought his undisciplined forward was being victimized like a murderer. Absolutely pathetic coming from someone spoken about as a potential replacement for Gil.

Read here:

“Tom plays it pretty hard and he cops a lot, he plays a physical brand of footy, but the scrutiny and the attention he’s received, it’s outrageous,” he told 3AW Sportsday.

“I can’t believe it, it’s like he’s Ivan Milat,” Gale quipped, referring to the serial killer who took the lives of seven backpackers in the early 1990s.

‘Like he’s Ivan Milat’: Tigers CEO stunned by ‘outrageous’ criticism of Tom Lynch

I understand where you're coming from but Gale's reference to Milat should really be seen as a throwaway line. Would he have said that in a pre-prepared media release? I doubt it. But when speaking on radio without prepared comments I'm prepared to give anyone a bit of slack. The better question is why a successful team all of a sudden is starting to sound more like a pack of whingers when everything should be rosy and bright. I wonder whether they have some concerns about where they're headed? Perhaps they're closer to the edge of that hypothetical cliff than we realise and they know it.  

[Lord Nev 13,512]

12 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I understand where you're coming from but Gale's reference to Milat should really be seen as a throwaway line. Would he have said that in a pre-prepared media release? I doubt it. But when speaking on radio without prepared comments I'm prepared to give anyone a bit of slack. The better question is why a successful team all of a sudden is starting to sound more like a pack of whingers when everything should be rosy and bright. I wonder whether they have some concerns about where they're headed? Perhaps they're closer to the edge of that hypothetical cliff than we realise and they know it.  

I think he should be held responsible for what he says whether it's prepared or not. The bloke is the CEO of (arguably) the biggest sporting club in the country. Would have thought bringing up a serial killer is one of the first things you learn not to do when talking to the media (if they don't already realize how incredibly offensive it is).

Edited August 25, 2020 by Lord Nev

[Brownie 5,981]

Two tiny fines on Richmond players for staging and they're appealing.

Unreal

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-duo-nick-vlastuin-and-dylan-grimes-challenge-afl-staging-fines-c-1263850

[Lord Travis 10,742]

13 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Two tiny fines on Richmond players for staging and they're appealing.

Unreal

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-duo-nick-vlastuin-and-dylan-grimes-challenge-afl-staging-fines-c-1263850

Hilarious. Next thing they'll just lodge an appeal to be handed a premiership.

[drdrake 3,178]

The smugness of success, jeez I wish we had this.  Basically they are the best team in the comp, they are winning so they can say/do what they want.  As much as I hate Richmond, credit to them whatever they did to change that losing culture at their club has been a massive achievement.  Could it be as simple as an ex Melbourne Coach that was footy manager at Geelong/Collingwood through their success now Footy Manager at Richmond.  Get the right person running your Footy department and thinks might happen 

Edited August 26, 2020 by drdrake

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

25 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Two tiny fines on Richmond players for staging and they're appealing.

Unreal

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-duo-nick-vlastuin-and-dylan-grimes-challenge-afl-staging-fines-c-1263850

Actually, I find them both quite unappealing.

[Sir Why You Little 37,051]

Dylan Grimes has been cleared of staging!!

 

Bahaha what an absolute joke. That was one of the best staged landings of all time

unbelievable... seriously ? 

[Grimes Times 1,278]

Powell-Pepper and Dalhaus get off Langdon fine stands???

[Clintosaurus 7,852]

As I have said before, the WWE has more integrity.

[chook fowler 19,459]

4 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

Powell-Pepper and Dalhaus get off Langdon fine stands???

we are looking sillier by the minute for not appealing Nibblers suspension. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,876]

Just saw the vision of Grimes, absolutely took a dive. 

[layzie 33,862]

"Uneasy lies the head who wears the crown"

This line may explain Richmond from a performance level but from an integrity and decency point of view it's a huge cop out. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,051]

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Just saw the vision of Grimes, absolutely took a dive. 

That is a Dive...

Pure and Simple

[layzie 33,862]

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Dylan Grimes has been cleared of staging!!

 

Bahaha what an absolute joke. That was one of the best staged landings of all time

unbelievable... seriously ? 

And so like punching, the AFL condones staging. Long may it continue..

[Brownie 5,981]

32 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is a Dive...

Pure and Simple

He should have been wearing a Cape.

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Are we the only club that won’t defend its players? 

[Sir Why You Little 37,051]

1 minute ago, Brownie said:

He should have been wearing a Cape.

Absolutely, I seriously cannot believe it has been seen in any other way.

All Clubs should be putting in a complaint about the system in place, it is a joke, it is corrupt and is not working.

This Rubbish will happen in Finals

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

47 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

we are looking sillier by the minute for not appealing Nibblers suspension. 

We are a weak club and have been for a long time

Edited August 26, 2020 by The Swimming Dee

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Are we the only club that won’t defend its players? 

We did challenge both the Neal Bullen (albeit no appeal) and Langdon ones. Either we're not defending very well or the system is a farce. I know which way I'm leaning at the moment.

Edited August 26, 2020 by Lord Nev

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is a Dive...

Pure and Simple

 

If I were coach I would drop him after that acting job.  A blight on the game.

Too bad Damian Hardwick is gutless.

[Sir Why You Little 37,051]

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

If I were coach I would drop him after that acting job.  A blight on the game.

Too bad Damian Hardwick is gutless.

A dive is measured by exaggeration. Did Grimes exaggerate the fall??

 

YES is the only answer....

[Lucifers Hero 39,965]

21 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

A dive is measured by exaggeration. Did Grimes exaggerate the fall??

 

YES is the only answer....

Yes.  But the Tribunal has gone to a new level of stupidity.  Its 'rational' beggars belief: 

In the tribunal's reasons for clearing Grimes, three points were emphasised:

• "...the vision it is noticeable that the player’s trajectory towards the ball had been altered by the propping and contact made by the Essendon player Stringer to the player's back.  It can be seen in the vision that the player's left foot digs into the turf and a tuff of grass appears indicating the player's attempt to stay on course to contest the fall of the football. 
• "At this stage the player's timing and balance has been affected by the actions of the Essendon player Stringer at a stage just prior to contesting the football whether it be to either jump to mark or spoil the football.
• "The player raises his right hand/arm in what appears to be an attempt to spoil or distract the Essendon player number 43 even though the player was under the ball at this stage and moving forward quickly and off balance as a result of the 'nudge' afforded to him by Essendon player Stringer."

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Talk about myopic excuse making to justify the outcome they wanted.  If it was only a 'nudge' how come he took several steps after the 'contact'.  Play had continued Tippa had kicked the ball and Grimes is still diving.   He raised his arm to get a free! 

It is an embarrassment that supposedly intelligent people can think let alone write such piffle! 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

What a farce

[buck_nekkid 5,879]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The Tribunal 'rational' beggars belief: 

In the tribunal's reasons for clearing Grimes, three points were emphasised:

• "...the vision it is noticeable that the player’s trajectory towards the ball had been altered by the propping and contact made by the Essendon player Stringer to the player's back.  It can be seen in the vision that the player's left foot digs into the turf and a tuff of grass appears indicating the player's attempt to stay on course to contest the fall of the football. 
• "At this stage the player's timing and balance has been affected by the actions of the Essendon player Stringer at a stage just prior to contesting the football whether it be to either jump to mark or spoil the football.
• "The player raises his right hand/arm in what appears to be an attempt to spoil or distract the Essendon player number 43 even though the player was under the ball at this stage and moving forward quickly and off balance as a result of the 'nudge' afforded to him by Essendon player Stringer."

tribunal-clears-grimes-and-vlastuin-of-staging

Talk about myopic excuse making to justify the outcome they wanted.  He took several steps after the 'contact'.  Play had continued Tippa had kicked the ball and he is still diving.   He raised his arm to get a free! 

It is an embarrassment that supposedly intelligent people can think let alone write such piffle! 

How about - the weak maggot threw himself forward and exaggerated to whole thing by throwing his arm in the air to attract a false and soft free kick from the umpire.  No effort was made to remain in the contest or modify his trajectory once he fully committed to this cowardly act.