POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Carlton

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It’s amazing how it’s ingrained in the whole club that a ripping first quarter will amount to zip in the scheme of a game.

I watched the first quarter with a wry smile and waited for the last 3 to happen. It’s so very predictable.

Max was absolutely breathtaking with his ruck work in the first quarter. Some of his taps were extraordinary.

The only thing that really kept me watching was Rivers. He will be a serious player. Very classy debut and he’s got plenty of go too. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Betts was only alone cos Smith flew for everything and anything leaving him alone.

But yeah, Jetta to Betts in any ones world is a Monty... except Goodwins.

That’s what I meant by left alone, surely Jetta to Betts is just logical and Smith to one of their talls too is a no-brainer (although he should be played forward).

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8 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Take the 4 points and accept we are not as great as we looked in the first but better than we looked in the last. 

Perhaps. But I did think our last couple of minutes we pretty good. But you might be right .......

[rufus 1,162]

At 3 qtr time we were still in a great position to make this a good result. All we needed to do was match their intensity for a period until we broke them. But we didn't.

I'm a bit lost as to where this club is at again. Maybe our list really is terrible. But can a terrible list play the way we did early in the game? I still feel like as a club we just do not know how to compete when it really gets physically tough. I just don't see how a different coach gets different results in that area, but who the hell knows at this point.

 

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1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

But you know what annoyed me. The team singing the song and no one bothered to notice our captain who just had his first win as captain and was our best player was still doing his fox footy interview and he missed the song. 

Great call, his first win as captain should’ve been celebrated. Poor form from the others, and honestly after giving up such a lead they should’ve have been that excited to sing it. 

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10 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

Would he be in contention to get a game in front of Joel Smith 110%. 
tell me one thing Smith has proved to be better than Frost at. 
 

Rightio. 

Being a Forward

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25 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Lol, unreal return to the footy. 

Likes for now.....Bennell looked like he got through ok. Trac is just a beast, would’ve lost without him I think. Rivers although not the same type as Whelan just looked like he belonged immediately. Reminded me of Wrecker’s debut. He might even get some votes. Good to see Hunt amongst the goals.

Some of our boys looked dirty after the game

I think this is most infuriated I have ever been after a game of football. Definitely after a win, except for maybe Gold Coast last year and I think Brisbane circa 2016. 

Thank you for reminding me of some of the positives from this game DZ. Rivers was fantastic. Trac showed he's ready to be a super-star of the competition. Oliver is close. 

Goodwin/MFC nearly manufactured a scoreless half against the opposition. Does he get credit for that or just blame for our capitulation?

Where's all the ANB and Hunt haters tonight? I'm angry but i still love my football team. Go Dees!

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Also did Jones play at all in the last. Was not sighted for mine and just checked had no stats?

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6 minutes ago, Pates said:

The first quarter was as good as it could get, the rest of the game was a disgrace. 

I know people don’t like OMac, well suck it up. Choosing Smith over him almost cost us the game, Smith doesn’t look like a key defender. A floating interception defender perhaps but zero sense of how/when to go for contests and spoil. 

Before I say this let me be clear, I like the look for Jackson and I think he has a big future with us. But having him over Weiderman just gave us nothing, he didn’t do enough at the ruck contests and didn’t have any forward sense. Give him time but Weids should be in there. 

But what really concerned me was the middle of the ground, they murdered us after half time and I’d say we broke even in the second quarter. Viney and Brayshaw were MIA at times and all of a sudden our ruck domination with Max went to zip. 

The other big problem is Tom McDonald, he wasn’t even in the contest today again not great delivery but neither did he create a break even. He should be put on notice that one more game like that and he’s dropped.

We got the win, we didn’t deserve it. 1-1 gives us a chance but right now we look right off it. 

Jackson gave us exactly what Weideman gave us last season as a fourth year player. I would much rather persist with that than waste any more time with Weideman. He had two easy marks he dropped early inside 50 that he will take with a few more games under his belt.

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5 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

We got the 4 points

Bennell got through the game

Petracca looked good

That's all

But you know what annoyed me. The team singing the song and no one bothered to notice our captain who just had his first win as captain and was our best player was still doing his fox footy interview and he missed the song. 

I saw it and would be finding out who instigated it if I was coach. Also ball out ANB for his jhow good are we celebration of his lucky second goal. Not the first time and a bad influence.

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29 minutes ago, P-man said:

It’s a good thing those waiting for Tom McDonald to come good aren’t holding their breath.

He needs to play deep forward as the primary target. It seemed we alternated between Fritsch and Petracca in that role, neither being suited to it.

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12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jetta manning up on the 204cm McKay is one of the most bizzare coaching decisions I've ever seen.

Agreed.  Unsure what a coach thinks sometimes!

[Vineytime 854]

5 minutes ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

Being a Forward

No. Pre season games don’t count. 

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53 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Lol, unreal return to the footy. 

Likes for now.....Bennell looked like he got through ok. Trac is just a beast, would’ve lost without him I think. Rivers although not the same type as Whelan just looked like he belonged immediately. Reminded me of Wrecker’s debut. He might even get some votes. Good to see Hunt amongst the goals.

Some of our boys looked dirty after the game

Rivers looked like a young Guy McKenna.

Powerful.

 

I hope the fluffers on here will start to see that we have serious cultural/coaching problems. This is a pretty good list, and we still cant put away a lower ranked club while our supporters talk about flags.

 

We are MILES off.

Edited June 13, 2020 by faultydet

[My name is legion 158]

MacDonald is not fit. Fat hips. Slow. Lazy.

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15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jetta manning up on the 204cm McKay is one of the most bizzare coaching decisions I've ever seen.

Yes, and it let McKay really take us apart with his (checks notes) 6 possessions, zero goals, and 14 Supercoach points.

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I really like our key defenders trying to take speccies

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58 minutes ago, Demonland said:

A win is a win. 3 things:

1. Beating Carlton by a point is better than beating them by 100 (give 'em a sniff and then take it away from 'em  ). I've seen both in the past 3 years and refreshingly loved both famous wins.

2. Keeping Carlton scoreless in the 1st quarter was a beautiful thing to see. Hasn't happened since 1951. Again, refreshing to see another record broken to celebrate - set prior to my birthdate! I will get serious sledging mileage with the poor unfortunates who follow CFC - scoreless in the 1st quarter HA HA HA.

3. Get Stuffed Carlton

 

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4 minutes ago, faultydet said:

This is a pretty good list

Nope.

[Dee-Nee 91]

May has only played about 8 for us. This was his first poor one. He's good. Forgive him one bad one.

Nibbler played his best ever quarter for us. Disappeared after that though.

 

[My name is legion 158]

Get rid of Badloss. That game should have been a 120 point win to us after that first quarter.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,459]

15 minutes ago, rufus said:

At 3 qtr time we were still in a great position to make this a good result. All we needed to do was match their intensity for a period until we broke them. But we didn't.

I'm a bit lost as to where this club is at again. Maybe our list really is terrible. But can a terrible list play the way we did early in the game? I still feel like as a club we just do not know how to compete when it really gets physically tough. I just don't see how a different coach gets different results in that area, but who the hell knows at this point.

 

It's all above the shoulders

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3 minutes ago, Dee-Nee said:

May has only played about 8 for us. This was his first poor one. He's good. Forgive him one bad one.

Nibbler played his best ever quarter for us. Disappeared after that though.

 

Yes, he was Ok but faded like everyone else

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Saved by the 16 minute quarters.

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1) do we bring Kozzie back next week, and if so

2) who goes out for him?  Jones? Melksham? Neither really like-for-like replacements... ?