CHANGES: Rd 02 vs Carlton

[58er 5,910]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

If Lockhart does not play I am going to have a fit.

Here here dl4e 

[58er 5,910]

1 hour ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Pretty surprising that we are playing the three debutants.

What the side might look like with those included;

FB: Jetta (Betts)  - May (McKay) - Hibberd (McGovern)

HB: Rivers - Lever - Salem 

C : Langdon - Viney - A.Tom

HF: Trac - TMac - Melksham

FF: Kozzi - Jackson - Bennell

R: Gawn - Oliver - Brayshaw

I: Jones (Fwd/Mid) - Harmes (Back/Mid) - Smith (Back) - ANB (Fwd/Mid)

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Depth: Vanders - OMac - Bedford - Hannan - Weid - Hunt - Brown - Lockhart

Lockhart and Omac better than Smith and ANB

[kieranbj 111]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

The whole team is off a long break 'kieranbj'...

Yep exactly,

Point I was making is that Goodwin seems to pull a real selection surprise for round 1 games.

This year round 2, with couple of months gaps, falls into that same pattern. 

[58er 5,910]

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

I should probably rewatch the game I suppose... my memory of it was that although he had something like 21 disposals, his efficiency wasn't particularly good, and he had been off his game for some time up to that point (last season's performances).  Maybe I'm being too harsh.

Hibbo was horrible in Round 1

Loose and his kicking and disposal nowhere near 2017 and 2018.

He has taken weight off but looks a shadow of his former self.

[BigFez 1,440]

Have I missed something about Lever?  Is there some doubt as to his availability?

[58er 5,910]

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Half guessing, half already official....

 

IN: Bennell, Rivers, Jackson, Jones, Salem

OUT: Spargo, Brown, OMac, Lockhart, Bedford

 

Two of our best defenders from around 1 Nev !

Both Omac and Locky play 

Hibbo out and others from mid and forward lines 

[Dee Zephyr 19,145]

3 real feel good stories. Good luck to all 3 and credit to them for the hard work they must have put in with no football being played the last 3 months. 

[Damo 3,238]

Lever hasnt trained much lately and missed the inter-match game. 

[dice 668]

2 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

was Hibberd that bad ? he was getting the ball, running aggresively then kicking into a forward line outnumbered and was made to look like thats his bad kicking.

I agree, he wasn't that bad. The Club might be just giving him some more time to deal with his brother's death. Hope he is okay.

[Matt Demon 1,407]

17 minutes ago, Damo said:

Lever hasnt trained much lately and missed the inter-match game. 

He did the entire session this morning and looked fine including match simulation.

[WA Demon Boy 966]

Just now, Matt Demon said:

He did the entire session this morning and looked fine including match simulation.

very nice - this is relieving news 

[picket fence 16,637]

3 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

Two new debutants in Jackson  Rivers and a possible Harley Bennell. That leaves Jones and Salem and others like the Weed and Vanders to be included  i guess.  We cannot fit them all in the side.

There will be an extended  bench when they announce the team. That also means that  probably a debutant might miss the cut in the end.

That is just an assumption.  I expect that Lockhart and Oscar to be picked after performing well in round 1.

In any case l would be expecting a solid win which will give us the kick start to a great season. 

If we are ever goning to be any good then average players like Oscar and ANB will and should struggle to get games! I reckon Hibberd is done has lost Pace!

Edited June 10, 2020 by picket fence

[DEE fence 4,923]

Am more than happy about Bennell but Rivers and Jackson, so soon? Really want to see a team list I'm feeling like it's  a praccy match and not a 4 pt game.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

38 minutes ago, 58er said:

Two of our best defenders from around 1 Nev !

Both Omac and Locky play 

Hibbo out and others from mid and forward lines 

Yeah, thought OMac was decent in round 1, but that was a couple of months ago now so not sure it matters too much. To me, just seems like we might go a bit smaller given the shorter quarters and quick track at Marvel. If Lever's soreness sticks around could be him coming out though.

I'm a big fan of both Lockhart and Bedford, but gut feel is they might make way.

You could be right on Hibberd, wouldn't be super surprised if he missed.

[poita 3,874]

I'm not surprised that Rivers is in - I reckon Hibberd is done, and we need to get games into his replacement. I think Jetta might be just about done as well, but he will hold his spot for a while longer.

Surely Jackson only plays if he is playing forward / second ruck, which is exactly what we were told at the start of the year he wouldn't be doing. I don't understand this one, but perhaps the selectors have finally lost confidence in Weideman.

Congratulations to both boys and to Bennell - I'm really looking forward to see what Harley can bring to this group. A relatively quiet game for him will still be miles above what Spargo or Bedford would bring.

[DubDee 24,301]

An injection of youth will hopefully have the desired effect.

After trading away early picks over the past few years it is great to have some first year quality players coming into the side.

Can't wait for Saturday arvo!!

[Willmoy1947 3,957]

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Personally, I think Demonland should ban posters making a comment such as this one. Haven't we learnt nothing?

Yep i agree, they should have pulled out the word relatively, and added "bruise free"

[Richard Tionary 145]

Going off Luke Jackson’s Instagram , Joel Smith is in for round 2 also.  Woohoo!

[Deespicable 2,672]

Wow, three more debutants for us after five in Rd 1 - Goody certainly gets excited by new talent.

I hope everyone realises we are witnessing some major changes from our Rd 1 thinking and a fundamental switch in his planning.

Firstly we played five small forwards in Rd 1 (I include Melky in this contingent even though he is just over 6 foot).

Three of them - ANB, Spargo and Bedford - have been sent back to the twos. Our forward group will include Jonesy, but clearly we are going bigger and I for one am rapt that Goody seems to have realised that the Richmond small model of 2017 was done a bit by necessity and thrown out the door by them in 2019. This is not to say that I am against smalls, but five little guys in our forward half tested most of us who like to think we know footy (even if we don't) and certainly provided easy aerial pickings for the Eagles.

Instead Goody has gone with Jackson who is quicker than any of the above trio, although not as explosive as Kossie. He also stands 201cm which means he can be the outlet down the line - although from what I saw of him in the old Gosch's Paddock days, he is not a smooth mark ... yet. He is however a smooth mover and well worth developing. Some of you have queried why we aren't playing a third tall like the Weid and I suspect you can blame Harley and Tomlinson for that. Harley's inclusion means we have another quality outside mid to go with Langdon and Tomlinson and Tomlinson's size means he can be switched forward as well if required - albeit a change of the plan to use him on the wing. Weid will get another chance - just not this week.

Secondly, our clear lack of pace, a problem even during Neeld and Roosy's days, officially ends on Saturday.

Rivers is quick and a beautiful kick. I remember when he arrived at Gosch's Paddock on his first day. He looked really good, but got an early lesson in a six-on-six drill when he did not use his body fully to protect the ball. Olly came in hard and bumped him out with ease - prpbably giving him a bit of a corkie at the same time. But Rivers just looked like he was taking note and hopefully he now has the beef to ensure he is not pushed aside. Rivers is also very good intercepting in the air and his inclusion may mean that Joel Smith has been overlooked, which would surprise me but ultimately may not be such a bad thing. A game in the reserves may help Smithy.  And if Smith is selected as well, then welcome to the fastest backline we have had in my time watching - Rhino Richards would approve.

Gone from recent days are our backline slowies (albeit very smart players) such as Jordy Lewis, Bernie Vince, Lynden Dunn, Tom Mac. Gone also are quicks who aren't precise kicks  such as Frosty and Jayden. And barring Lever's injury being worse than first thought, gone also is Oscar, Goody's No.1 experiment. I remember the game at Marvel when Goody was Roosy's understudy and we lost to St Kilda and Dunny (then vice-captain) was blamed for being caught over the back. From that moment on Goody has pushed forward Oscar and the rest of us have queried it. He has now played 75 games, that's only two short of Neale Daniher's infamous project player Brent Grgic before he was delisted and picked up by the Cats. Oscar has great skills is a good spoiler and is a safe mark, but we all know that he is slower than Lynden Dunn and that's after he's had two knee operations. Last year Goody had few options but to play him because of the injuries, but now he has a virtual full list. He has two genuine tall defensive stars in May and Lever and he has plenty of capable kicks. And he has pace at his fingertips.

I am also a big VDB fan, but given Harley has been included, it's probably best to wait another week for VDB's return against Essendon. 

Happy Days and Dees!

[Demonland 70,238]

2 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

Going off Luke Jackson’s Instagram , Joel Smith is in for round 2 also.  Woohoo!

 

[Ted Lasso 18,759]

I personally hope we play Smith (assuming he is indeed playing) up forward! thought he showed really promising signs up forward!

 

[Willmoy1947 3,957]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mark Stevens

@Stevo7AFL

Rapt to see Luke Jackson in for Dees. Tbh was absolutely stunned he missed Round 1 after watching him on track through summer ...

Mark's first interview after the Game....

[Demons11 6,704]

8 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I personally hope we play Smith (assuming he is indeed playing) up forward! thought he showed really promising signs up forward!

 

He is a 100% lock to play down back if he gets in. 

[Pulp Fritschon 690]

Ok no more stuffing around - 

In: Salem, Jones, AVB, Bennell, Smith, Rivers, Jackson

Out: OMac, Hibberd, Spargo, Bedford, ANB, Lockhart, Brown 

 

B:  Jetta, May, Lever

HB: Harmes, Smith, Salem

? Tomlinson, Oliver, Langdon   

HF:  VDB, TMac, Bennell

F:  Pickett, Fritsch, Melksham

FOLL: Gawn, Petracca, Viney

INT: Brayshaw, Jones, Rivers, Jackson

EMG: Lockhart, Weideman, Hannan, Sparrow

 

Dees by 39

[jumbo returns 6,703]

Good to see another Rivers in the backline