Training Ground?

[chookrat 4,247]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We should just build a big complex in the MCG Carpark 

They don’t allow cars to park there anymore, haven’t for years 

Would an alternative be to build our facilities underground beneath the MCG with a full size underground stadium beneath the G. I appreciate this would cost a bit but how awesome would it be. It would also solve the planning problems instantly. The entrance could be a the gates to hell theme.

[IRW 1,387]

11 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Would an alternative be to build our facilities underground beneath the MCG with a full size underground stadium beneath the G. I appreciate this would cost a bit but how awesome would it be. It would also solve the planning problems instantly. The entrance could be a the gates to hell theme.

I think they'd have to do it at night and hope no one would notice

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

33 minutes ago, Gouga said:

If we want to stir the pot we should put in a proposal to redevelop victoria park...

Disgusting Concept 

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

30 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Would an alternative be to build our facilities underground beneath the MCG with a full size underground stadium beneath the G. I appreciate this would cost a bit but how awesome would it be. It would also solve the planning problems instantly. The entrance could be a the gates to hell theme.

Would get my vote straight away. 

This whole situation is beyond absurd, The oldest Club in the world does not have a home base!

But we here know all that….

[old dee 23,781]

43 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Would get my vote straight away. 

This whole situation is beyond absurd, The oldest Club in the world does not have a home base!

But we here know all that….

The main reason now is we are wedded to this idea that it has to be a stone's throw from the G.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,192]

47 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Would get my vote straight away. 

This whole situation is beyond absurd, The oldest Club in the world does not have a home base!

But we here know all that….

We have a home base, we're just not allowed to train there

[dice 697]

On 8/27/2022 at 12:53 PM, ElDiablo14 said:

Why did the Pies leave their spiritual home in the first place?

Because Eddie always wanted Olympic Park and saw the perfect opportunity in 2005 to effectively steal it when he was appointed to the board of Athletics Australia thanks to his mate and former Pies player Rob Fildes. This article explains half the story behind the "acquisition" of Olympic Park:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/collingwood-secretly-lobbied-for-park-20090811-egz0.html

The real question is how did McGuire get on the board of Athletics Australia when he had no involvement whatsoever in Athletics up until then and what negotiations did he have with Brumby. It is just another classic example of ruthless opportunism by McGuire, one of the luckiest [censored] on the planet. It was also unfortunate that at the time (2007-2009) we were in our darkest period and had no hope of seizing the opportunity. That's what makes this current period in our history all the more important in finding a home.

[layzie 33,752]

3 hours ago, chookrat said:

Would an alternative be to build our facilities underground beneath the MCG with a full size underground stadium beneath the G. I appreciate this would cost a bit but how awesome would it be. It would also solve the planning problems instantly. The entrance could be a the gates to hell theme.

Love it, we could call it the pits! We could also have a bunch of those daylight lights they use in Iceland.

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

The main reason now is we are wedded to this idea that it has to be a stone's throw from the G.

As it should be. We were born out of The MCG. That is a fact

We SHOULD be part of The Southern Stand upgrade 

[layzie 33,752]

We have the city's name, we deserve the best.  

[ding 5,126]

5 hours ago, chookrat said:

Would an alternative be to build our facilities underground beneath the MCG with a full size underground stadium beneath the G. I appreciate this would cost a bit but how awesome would it be. It would also solve the planning problems instantly. The entrance could be a the gates to hell theme.

Love this idea, but where do we find a spare $Billion AUD

[Abyssal 465]

12 hours ago, old dee said:

There are options outside the "G proximity idea" but we are welded to that area.

Whilst I would much prefer our ‘World class’ training facility to be near the MCG  it appears we have ‘missed the boat’.

Time to go All In at Casey.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Agree with the above. Time to go all in at Casey IMO. Otherwise the alternative for near the city could be Brunswick Street Oval.

[praha 11,236]

3 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

Agree with the above. Time to go all in at Casey IMO. Otherwise the alternative for near the city could be Brunswick Street Oval.

Problem with a permanent base at Casey is that you limit the talent pool (mostly off-field) when you move operations to outer suburbs. Casey is nice little additional home to have but there must be a reason why it's not being considered long term.

[old dee 23,781]

6 hours ago, Abyssal said:

Whilst I would much prefer our ‘World class’ training facility to be near the MCG  it appears we have ‘missed the boat’.

Time to go All In at Casey.

I am not sure the opportunity has gone but it is going to be some time before it happens. Think  the end of this decade. It won't matter to me by then. 

 

[MadAsHell 4,212]

I know they're wedded to be as close as possible to the MCG precinct, but why they have not explored developing Brunswick Street Oval is beyond me.

The ground has history being the home of Fitzroy Lions from 1896-1966, but with Fitzroy now gone we could take over their old home and make it our own.

It's only 4km from the MCG, has plenty of room to develop being in the Edinburgh Gardens precinct (might need to convince to Tennis club to relocate up near the North playground and cricket club to Alfred Crescent Oval).

They could refurbished the old Grand Stand to have the locker rooms/showers done up. Build their admin, physio, Gym and meeting rooms. Maybe as well as a little supporter style museum and community hub given there are current squatters in the Grand Stand.

They could avoid the need for a pool with Fitzroy Swimming Pool near by and a social club by coming up with some sort of arrangement/sponsorship with Lord Newry Hotel across the road which could become a supporter hang out and meeting area.

Finally it means that our AFLW team could play out of Brunswick Street Oval while our alignment with Casey can stay in touch with maybe one training session a week at Casey Fields with the VFL and VFLW sides staying at Casey Fields.

That's just me though and instead it looks as though they'll keep trying to get something in the MCG complex.

[layzie 33,752]

3 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

I know they're wedded to be as close as possible to the MCG precinct, but why they have not explored developing Brunswick Street Oval is beyond me.

The ground has history being the home of Fitzroy Lions from 1896-1966, but with Fitzroy now gone we could take over their old home and make it our own.

It's only 4km from the MCG, has plenty of room to develop being in the Edinburgh Gardens precinct (might need to convince to Tennis club to relocate up near the North playground and cricket club to Alfred Crescent Oval).

They could refurbished the old Grand Stand to have the locker rooms/showers done up. Build their admin, physio, Gym and meeting rooms. Maybe as well as a little supporter style museum and community hub given there are current squatters in the Grand Stand.

They could avoid the need for a pool with Fitzroy Swimming Pool near by and a social club by coming up with some sort of arrangement/sponsorship with Lord Newry Hotel across the road which could become a supporter hang out and meeting area.

Finally it means that our AFLW team could play out of Brunswick Street Oval while our alignment with Casey can stay in touch with maybe one training session a week at Casey Fields with the VFL and VFLW sides staying at Casey Fields.

That's just me though and instead it looks as though they'll keep trying to get something in the MCG complex.

It's an idea at least. Something there has been very few of lately.

Also a stone's throw away from where Norm Smith grew up, would be fitting! 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

It's an idea at least. Something there has been very few of lately.

Also a stone's throw away from where Norm Smith grew up, would be fitting! 

Been mooted by myself and others in the past, apparently Yarra Council would hate it and it has massive community use at the moment that the lefties in the area wouldn’t relinquish to a professional football club. (Nothing against lefties btw)

[daisycutter 29,604]

12 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Been mooted by myself and others in the past, apparently Yarra Council would hate it and it has massive community use at the moment that the lefties in the area wouldn’t relinquish to a professional football club. (Nothing against lefties btw)

a shoebox ground on a shoebox plot

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

Brunswick st oval is not the right size/shape for AFL training. Too many community groups would kick up a stink, not dissimilar to Jolimont/Yarra Park proposal.

IMO it will be either sports precinct, such as car park F building + Goschs or perhaps on another state govt owned land (eg Docklands E-gate) or we will have the status quo, a combination of AAMI/Goschs/Casey

Any land owned or controlled by a local Council scared of its residents will not get through

[He de mon 925]

17 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Been mooted by myself and others in the past, apparently Yarra Council would hate it and it has massive community use at the moment that the lefties in the area wouldn’t relinquish to a professional football club. (Nothing against lefties btw)

Having lived in Brunswick for 15 years, I tend to agree. Throw in a yoga centre, a wellness clinic and a vegan cafe, we might get it done.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

33 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Been mooted by myself and others in the past, apparently Yarra Council would hate it and it has massive community use at the moment that the lefties in the area wouldn’t relinquish to a professional football club. (Nothing against lefties btw)

Although it falls into the seat of Richmond in the state electorate which is safe Labor.

As for those suggesting its too much of a shoe box, does anyone know what the dimensions are? Obviously as part of any build they can re-do the dimensions some what. We could at the very least get it Marvel Stadium size dimensions wise?

[Diamond_Jim 12,550]

No one is going to allow us to enclose open space to establish a training ground.

Port Melbourne Oval if it can be acquired is one possibility.

The other area is down around where the now defunct Big Wheel is located

[picket fence 17,056]

On 8/26/2022 at 10:01 PM, mo64 said:

Well it basically comes down to Government funding at all levels. I just saw North's facilities were upgraded through council funding, because it incorporated community facilities. 

It's difficult to put forward a case for a training facility close to the CBD when there's no votes to be gained. We have more chance of getting funding for a facility out at Casey.

Yeah just like the monstrous and obcene funding arrangements at Jeelong! No wonder I despise them so much😡

[old dee 23,781]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

a shoebox ground on a shoebox plot

Spot on DC.