On 02/02/2026 at 10:04, Oxdee said:

The way people are talking about this you’d think the Melbourne Football Club is writing a $100m cheque tomorrow. That’s not how major infrastructure works. These facilities are financed — typically via long-term debt — and repaid over 20–30 years, just like every stadium, hospital or university building on the planet. The lack of basic financial literacy in this thread is staggering.

Financing literacy aside, the issue many people are raising isn’t confusion about debt structures, it’s accountability. When public land, government involvement, and long-term planning are in play, the conversation necessarily extends beyond balance sheets to the constituents who are affected by the decision.

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

on the above map, the area between the highlighted deakin campus, to the left, and along elgar road opposite plc. It is part of deakin.

Thanks, they are a fair way off Elgar Rd that's why I wasn't sure what you meant (thought Surrey Park or Elgar Park at first as hadn't seen the map)...but yep I know the grounds, have played there a number of times.

Not sure they are part of Deakin or council owned.

On Deakin I know they've been looking to buy up properties around Stott and Cardona St for a while, maybe the purchase of Mount Scopus makes their expansion easier.

Edited Tuesday at 23:344 days by rjay

17 minutes ago, rjay said:

Thanks, they are a fair way off Elgar Rd that's why I wasn't sure what you meant (thought Surrey Park or Elgar Park at first as hadn't seen the map)...but yep I know the grounds, have played there a number of times.

Not sure they are part of Deakin or council owned.

On Deakin I know they've been looking to buy up properties around Stott and Cardona St for a while, maybe the purchase of Mount Scopus makes the expansion easier.

Deakin have poured a heap of $$ into their facility for Geelong footy club at the Waurn Ponds campus. Couldn’t see them wanting to be involved with us.

7 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Deakin have poured a heap of $$ into their facility for Geelong footy club at the Waurn Ponds campus. Couldn’t see them wanting to be involved with us.

How would Deakin be involved with us ? 🤷

10 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Deakin have poured a heap of $$ into their facility for Geelong footy club at the Waurn Ponds campus. Couldn’t see them wanting to be involved with us.

Where have they put the money? I work at Deakin and the ground is ok, the change rooms are tiny and have no facilities in them that are worthy of a local club let alone an AFL club.

42 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

Financing literacy aside, the issue many people are raising isn’t confusion about debt structures, it’s accountability. When public land, government involvement, and long-term planning are in play, the conversation necessarily extends beyond balance sheets to the constituents who are affected by the decision.

The issues which effectively sank any prospects of an MCG home for MFC.

43 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Deakin have poured a heap of $$ into their facility for Geelong footy club at the Waurn Ponds campus. Couldn’t see them wanting to be involved with us.

I'm not sure anyone is saying they are...

On 02/02/2026 at 20:52, old dee said:

Ok but you may not hear from us for 2-3 years. Is that ok?

I'm thinking longer

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I'm not sure anyone is saying they are...

Sorry I had misinterpreted the initial post.

There is no reason for Deakin Burwood to buy the Mt Scopus site.

I walk there regularly and have for years. There are minimal students on campus today.

Post covid even less as lectures and tutorials are all on-line.

Deakin had a mad building programme in place pre-Covid, and now there are whole buildings which have nobody..nobody inside.

It is a situation all universities are facing, but the last thing they need to be doing is buying more land.

27 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

There is no reason for Deakin Burwood to buy the Mt Scopus site.

I walk there regularly and have for years. There are minimal students on campus today.

Post covid even less as lectures and tutorials are all on-line.

Deakin had a mad building programme in place pre-Covid, and now there are whole buildings which have nobody..nobody inside.

It is a situation all universities are facing, but the last thing they need to be doing is buying more land.

I know they were making offers on properties around the back pre Covid...I guess a lot has changed since.

I must admit I haven't noticed student numbers...

Very interesting.

On 17/10/2025 at 17:24, Demon Disciple said:

@Ghostwriter im sure Richo will vouch for you. If not, tell Kingy that you provide a public service for all Demonland users.

If he doesn’t know what Demonland is………….we have to question if he is the right guy.

This could have been the start of a humongous thread.

Thank Lucifer it was only posted in another super effective thread that's really going places.

Edited Wednesday at 06:584 days by Demon Dynasty

Waverley definitely happening (unfortunately)

11 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley definitely happening (unfortunately)

Is that a fact? May be not a bad outcome, hawks won 4 flags at Waverley, lower cost outcome!

4 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Is that a fact? May be not a bad outcome, hawks won 4 flags at Waverley, lower cost outcome!

it would only be an interim move. if caulfield comes off it will be 2-3 year project to complete.

22 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley definitely happening (unfortunately)

Why unfortunately?

26 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Is that a fact? May be not a bad outcome, hawks won 4 flags at Waverley, lower cost outcome!

Player sponsor event at the MCG today says yes

56 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley definitely happening (unfortunately)

I thought Richmond was going there while they "redeveloped" Punt Road

With the AFL purchasing Waverley Park off Hawthorn Football Club earlier this year, Richmond is seriously contemplating renting it off the League to move both football programs to train in Mulgrave from October 2026 onwards until the Swinburne Centre – which will maintain its naming rights once the redevelopment is complete – is ready.

“Waverley Park is a live option for us. With the AFL purchasing that now, we have certainly put a stake in the ground with that. We have multiple options, but that is certainly a live option,” Dunne said.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1878506/tassie-sydney-waverley-tigers-consider-temporary-move-of-games-home-base

54 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley definitely happening (unfortunately)

Thanks for info.

Any idea why?

My fear is we will never get out of there ... sub standard facilities forever!

It would be more acceptable if it accompanied an announcement and a commitment, by all stakeholders, to Caulfield.

Meanwhile, Eddie's Collingwood ride the coat tails of the TA, government $millions,extension into the neighbouring AAMI, Gosch, MCG precinct.

Edited yesterday at 06:281 day by Lucifers Hero

1 hour ago, Davos said:

Why unfortunately?

Waverley is not a long term solution. It’s dated and that’s why Hawthorn has left it.

It’s also closer to Casey than the G

5 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley is not a long term solution. It’s dated and that’s why Hawthorn has left it.

It’s also closer to Casey than the G

Is it seen as a short term solution?

58 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Is it seen as a short term solution?

I fear that if we move in, it will only kick Caulfield further down the line, if at all.

1 hour ago, Dannyz said:

Waverley is not a long term solution. It’s dated and that’s why Hawthorn has left it.

That’s why we shouldn’t move there.

Why move to facilities that weren’t good enough for another club, even temporarily?

With Gosch's now in demand from Tennis and the Pies, we should keep the pressure on for Caulfield, by staying until it is ready to move to.

What is the relevance of being closer to Casey, when players don’t go from Waverley to Casey, but rather from their homes to Casey?

Don’t like the sounds of this.

Am I missing something?

We whinge about not having a home base, but I’d take a wait rather than being in deadset central nowhere like the Dorks

13 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

We whinge about not having a home base, but I’d take a wait rather than being in deadset central nowhere like the Dorks

Looks like Casey to me…

Waverley better be a stop gap