1 minute ago, Boots and all said:

...and that should be their utmost priority in terms of a training venue!!

.... should be, yes

On 7/14/2023 at 1:27 PM, kev martin said:

I think Caulfield racecourse is crown land, whereas Flemington and Mooney are owned by the racing clubs.

The private entities may be easier to deal with!

Forget Mooney Valley, not a hope in hell, as every inch has been utilised in the new development.

IMO the VRC wouldn’t consider it.

Yes Caulfield is Crown land administered by a trust, that I once was willing to be involved with after some discussions, but it came to nothing.

The community mixed use would be the pillar to get it done at Caulfield and there is stacks of available space for everyone to be happy.

Caulfield is the solution for us. Ticks all the boxes. As long as we satisfy the community use conditions there is no reason why we can't make this work.

I hope Kate Roffey is working overtime on this.

On 7/14/2023 at 1:27 PM, kev martin said:

I think Caulfield racecourse is crown land, whereas Flemington and Mooney are owned by the racing clubs.

The private entities may be easier to deal with!

Flemington Racecourse is on Crown land.

There are pockets within the boundary that were owned by the VRC, but by and large, they have been sold to developers for high rise apartments or high density, overpriced housing

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by Stiff Arm

With the austerity mindset from governments at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if any headway made previously is now redundant. Unless it's solely public infrastructure, I can't imagine they'll be able to sell it to their constituents. 

12 hours ago, A F said:

With the austerity mindset from governments at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if any headway made previously is now redundant. Unless it's solely public infrastructure, I can't imagine they'll be able to sell it to their constituents. 

Geelong still getting their upgrades though.

5 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Geelong still getting their upgrades though.

Geelong is a marginal seat though. It's become effectively a bipartisan pork barrel.

On 7/14/2023 at 9:31 AM, demon3165 said:

And the mayor says a lot of things depends on which way the wind blows.

Government money will be in short supply in the  medium term

We missed the Vic government spendathon

With the disappointing cancellation of the Commonwealth Games in Country Victoria (I hope someone else can do them?), I actually think the development of Caulfield Racecourse into a Melbourne Home Base is more likely now.

Why? Because the Victorian Government still has unallocated funds that would of gone to build infrastructure/stadiums etc for the Commonwealth Games. They just didn't expect a massive blowout of $6 or $7 billion. Nevertheless, the Victorian Government should still have about $1 or $2 billion spare? Anyway, I am only speculating. So we shall have to wait and see.

Edited July 19, 20231 yr by Supreme_Demon

15 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

With the disappointing cancellation of the Commonwealth Games in Country Victoria (I hope someone else can do them?), I actually think the development of Caulfield Racecourse into a Melbourne Home Base is more likely now.

Why? Because the Victorian Government still has unallocated funds that would of gone to build infrastructure/stadiums etc for the Commonwealth Games. They just didn't expect a massive blowout of $6 or $7 billion. Nevertheless, the Victorian Government should still have about $1 or $2 billion spare? Anyway, I am only speculating. So we shall have to wait and see.

Strangely enough a similar thought popped among my little grey cells.

I'm still reeling with embarassment tbh...atm

A little snippet from the Commonwealth games fiasco. The article is about the infamous temporary swimming pool but it has this gem...

The original plan was for the swimming to be held at an existing aquatic centre at Kardinia Park. This is why, on March 1, 2022, Dame Louise Martin and Katie Sadleir from the Commonwealth Games Federation, Ben Houston and Craig Phillips from Commonwealth Games Australia and Visit Victoria chief Brendan McClements – the person who had pitched Victoria’s bid three months earlier – travelled to Geelong with senior government bureaucrats to tour that site.

This is the plan the City of Greater Geelong council supported. At the time, Games planners had a new gymnastics venue pencilled in next to the pool. This would have established Kardinia Park as a central Games precinct and, after the event, given the neighbouring Geelong Football Club access to a high-roofed, indoor training centre for use on wet days.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-victoria-s-commonwealth-games-ended-up-the-creek-20230721-p5dq4h.html

On 7/18/2023 at 5:17 PM, Redleg said:

Forget Mooney Valley, not a hope in hell, as every inch has been utilised in the new development.

IMO the VRC wouldn’t consider it.

Yes Caulfield is Crown land administered by a trust, that I once was willing to be involved with after some discussions, but it came to nothing.

The community mixed use would be the pillar to get it done at Caulfield and there is stacks of available space for everyone to be happy.

And Mooney Valley is very close to 🛬💣… maybe there will be discarded syringes lying around still.  

49 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

A little snippet from the Commonwealth games fiasco. The article is about the infamous temporary swimming pool but it has this gem...

The original plan was for the swimming to be held at an existing aquatic centre at Kardinia Park. This is why, on March 1, 2022, Dame Louise Martin and Katie Sadleir from the Commonwealth Games Federation, Ben Houston and Craig Phillips from Commonwealth Games Australia and Visit Victoria chief Brendan McClements – the person who had pitched Victoria’s bid three months earlier – travelled to Geelong with senior government bureaucrats to tour that site.

This is the plan the City of Greater Geelong council supported. At the time, Games planners had a new gymnastics venue pencilled in next to the pool. This would have established Kardinia Park as a central Games precinct and, after the event, given the neighbouring Geelong Football Club access to a high-roofed, indoor training centre for use on wet days.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-victoria-s-commonwealth-games-ended-up-the-creek-20230721-p5dq4h.html

Hate Jeelong and can't understand why they are so pampered and looked after with tax payer money.

On 7/19/2023 at 11:01 AM, Supreme_Demon said:

With the disappointing cancellation of the Commonwealth Games in Country Victoria (I hope someone else can do them?), I actually think the development of Caulfield Racecourse into a Melbourne Home Base is more likely now.

Why? Because the Victorian Government still has unallocated funds that would of gone to build infrastructure/stadiums etc for the Commonwealth Games. They just didn't expect a massive blowout of $6 or $7 billion. Nevertheless, the Victorian Government should still have about $1 or $2 billion spare? Anyway, I am only speculating. So we shall have to wait and see.

You do realize the Vic gov is  170 billion in the hole 

There wont be a spare  1 to 2 dollars let alone 1to2 billion

the whole exercise was cynical politics by Dan who will probably exit at Xmas time

I really dont think there will be much government money available in the medium term

I've mentioned Camberwell before but pretty sure this site wasn't in the picture.

I assume we've searched far & wide in these parts...

Edited July 21, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

Zero chance this government puts any money into a development in  Caulfield of all places. Even if it does have significant public benefit. 

4 hours ago, Kent said:

You do realize the Vic gov is  170 billion in the hole 

There wont be a spare  1 to 2 dollars let alone 1to2 billion

the whole exercise was cynical politics by Dan who will probably exit at Xmas time

I really dont think there will be much government money available in the medium term

And yet a seemingly endless supply for Geelong...go figure....

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

And yet a seemingly endless supply for Geelong...go figure....

cancel the useless eastern rail loop and you save billions.  it's already headed for massive over runs

reform of work cover charges could save billions too

but i fear we were conned and we'll get naught from the state gummint

stuck with casey/aami for at least another decade

11 hours ago, beelzebub said:

And yet a seemingly endless supply for Geelong...go figure....

Is it because Geelong is the country VIC club? Why so much love from the  state government?

13 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

I've mentioned Camberwell before but pretty sure this site wasn't in the picture.

I assume we've searched far & wide in these parts...

Wonder what Chris from Camberwell thinks of this 🤔

Unconfirmed rumour we have signed with Caulfield Racecourse.

37 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Unconfirmed rumour we have signed with Caulfield Racecourse.

Very exciting if true?!

I guess we will have to wait and see if there is an announcement? I won't be holding my breath though.

Edited July 31, 20231 yr by Supreme_Demon

43 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Unconfirmed rumour we have signed with Caulfield Racecourse.

if true this great news. I know you said it’s unconfirmed …but is the source someone you consider to be usually reliable? 

52 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Unconfirmed rumour we have signed with Caulfield Racecourse.

Wow!

53 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

if true this great news. I know you said it’s unconfirmed …but is the source someone you consider to be usually reliable? 

Yes.